Mike Dee
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Re: PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious...
That's OK....we are all free to make choices
That's OK....we are all free to make choices
PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious (iPhone X)
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Re: PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious...
Absolutely fair. It would indeed affect you if you made it your norm to look at the screen at an angle you might hold the phone if you were trying to show it to the person next to you.
For me, that 'once in a blue moon' (pun intended) that it might be observable to me, and the essentially cosmetic issue it would present, are something I'm very willing to accept to avoid what I perceive as completely functional deficits for all of the alternative flagship offerings.
Absolutely fair. It would indeed affect you if you made it your norm to look at the screen at an angle you might hold the phone if you were trying to show it to the person next to you.
For me, that 'once in a blue moon' (pun intended) that it might be observable to me, and the essentially cosmetic issue it would present, are something I'm very willing to accept to avoid what I perceive as completely functional deficits for all of the alternative flagship offerings.
vzwuser76
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Re: PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious...
Sorry, I guess that this post didn't include what I've said in similar posts in other threads, that I haven't seen a 2 XL in person, so I can't say if it's worse or not. But of the ones I currently have, 5 AMOLED screened phones total, all of them have it, and some are worse than others. You yourself said, it differs from unit to until, yet you seem to be mad if anyone says they don't see it as an issue. Maybe they have one that doesn't have the issue, or they're not as bothered by it.
But I guess from now on, everyone needs to be outraged anytime a certain percentage of the userbase has issues, whether it affects their specific devices or not. Otherwise we're just triggered defenders.
And btw, I don't even have a 2 XL, I have the regular 2. My point is everyone's losing their freaking minds over this. Is it not under warranty? It's not like you're in the hook to pay for repairs. And I'd bet if you raised enough of a stick about it, you could return it. So why the need to rail about it and nauseum? I'd imagine a lot of 2 XL's returned will send a louder message than posts on a forum. So rather than rant about it, return it, find something else to fit your needs, and be done with it.
Sorry, I guess that this post didn't include what I've said in similar posts in other threads, that I haven't seen a 2 XL in person, so I can't say if it's worse or not. But of the ones I currently have, 5 AMOLED screened phones total, all of them have it, and some are worse than others. You yourself said, it differs from unit to until, yet you seem to be mad if anyone says they don't see it as an issue. Maybe they have one that doesn't have the issue, or they're not as bothered by it.
But I guess from now on, everyone needs to be outraged anytime a certain percentage of the userbase has issues, whether it affects their specific devices or not. Otherwise we're just triggered defenders.
And btw, I don't even have a 2 XL, I have the regular 2. My point is everyone's losing their freaking minds over this. Is it not under warranty? It's not like you're in the hook to pay for repairs. And I'd bet if you raised enough of a stick about it, you could return it. So why the need to rail about it and nauseum? I'd imagine a lot of 2 XL's returned will send a louder message than posts on a forum. So rather than rant about it, return it, find something else to fit your needs, and be done with it.
Re: PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious...
That's certainly possible. Other phones shift to a different part of the spectrum, such as yellow or green... or the red tint that plagued Samsung S8's not only badly when viewed at an angle, but still visibly when viewed head on.
Funny how the press blow-up wasn't as severe for a company that spends tons more on advertising, and again how people accepted that Samsung would be able to 'fix' the issue with software (even though off-axis shift made it more noticeable) but refused to even consider the possibility that Google could address it in the same manner.
That's certainly possible. Other phones shift to a different part of the spectrum, such as yellow or green... or the red tint that plagued Samsung S8's not only badly when viewed at an angle, but still visibly when viewed head on.
Funny how the press blow-up wasn't as severe for a company that spends tons more on advertising, and again how people accepted that Samsung would be able to 'fix' the issue with software (even though off-axis shift made it more noticeable) but refused to even consider the possibility that Google could address it in the same manner.
vzwuser76
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Re: PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious...
You said in your first post in this thread that the amount of color shift differential from unit to unit, so not every device is as bad as the other. Perhaps the same thing happens with the X. With so few of them out, it's hard to say right now with any certainty, so to say they don't have the issue is a bit premature.
I don't think saying, "see they have the problem too" is any worse than saying "brand (x) doesn't have this issue". If you can contrast, shouldn't others be able to compare?
You said in your first post in this thread that the amount of color shift differential from unit to unit, so not every device is as bad as the other. Perhaps the same thing happens with the X. With so few of them out, it's hard to say right now with any certainty, so to say they don't have the issue is a bit premature.
I don't think saying, "see they have the problem too" is any worse than saying "brand (x) doesn't have this issue". If you can contrast, shouldn't others be able to compare?
TheDonJ77
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Re: PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious...
Bluish tint on a google phone tilted at an angle and the internet goes crazy and everyone loses their minds, bluish tint on an iPhone tilted at an angle "it's not a deal breaker because it's imperceptible", Jesus Apple fans and critics are the epitome of hypocrites
Bluish tint on a google phone tilted at an angle and the internet goes crazy and everyone loses their minds, bluish tint on an iPhone tilted at an angle "it's not a deal breaker because it's imperceptible", Jesus Apple fans and critics are the epitome of hypocrites
Ziich47
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Or the severity of tint is different, there is a spectrum between perfect and bad. The smaller Pixel 2 (for the phones I looked at) had a small amount of blue tint, but it was what I would consider insignificant....and the 2 XL next to it had enough blue tint that I decided I couldn't live with it. There was a significant difference between the two regarding off axis color shift. Bought a Pixel 2 and it should show up in the mail today or tomorrow.
Or the severity of tint is different, there is a spectrum between perfect and bad. The smaller Pixel 2 (for the phones I looked at) had a small amount of blue tint, but it was what I would consider insignificant....and the 2 XL next to it had enough blue tint that I decided I couldn't live with it. There was a significant difference between the two regarding off axis color shift. Bought a Pixel 2 and it should show up in the mail today or tomorrow.
graylingboy
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Re: PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious...
By rotating the Pixel 2xl through 90 degrees on it longitudinal axis you stop seeing Blue shift........ forum posts all the time. Cushtie!!
By rotating the Pixel 2xl through 90 degrees on it longitudinal axis you stop seeing Blue shift........ forum posts all the time. Cushtie!!
dlalonde
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Re: PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious...
I've just seen the Pixel 2 XL in person for the first time and, seriously, that's what people are up in arms about? It's nothing! It can barely be seen at all and you have to hold the phone the way no one holds a phone... I was amazed at how much nothing can become a SOMETHING-gate...
I've just seen the Pixel 2 XL in person for the first time and, seriously, that's what people are up in arms about? It's nothing! It can barely be seen at all and you have to hold the phone the way no one holds a phone... I was amazed at how much nothing can become a SOMETHING-gate...
dsignori
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Re: PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious...
or...
Some are worse than others. Here are 2 together ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkW9Ab3QFJw
or...
Some are worse than others. Here are 2 together ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkW9Ab3QFJw
dsignori
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Re: PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious...
Fair enough.
We have lots of reports of different 2 XL variance though, and none for the X, but I guess it is possible, sure.
Fair enough.
We have lots of reports of different 2 XL variance though, and none for the X, but I guess it is possible, sure.
dsignori
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Ca_lvn
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Re: PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious...
After using the regular pixel 2 for a week I was in BB today and checked out the Google display and the XL definitely had a strong blue at minimum angles , this is the 4th Display I have seen , the screen look fine the phone was nice I just noticed the blue, stronger than any other phone I've used or seen, I turned off the display mode to see if there was light retention or burning and I did not notice that
After using the regular pixel 2 for a week I was in BB today and checked out the Google display and the XL definitely had a strong blue at minimum angles , this is the 4th Display I have seen , the screen look fine the phone was nice I just noticed the blue, stronger than any other phone I've used or seen, I turned off the display mode to see if there was light retention or burning and I did not notice that
Re: PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious...
Except there have been tons of reports of people seeing significant blue shift so it's not just a couple phones. Google needs to get display models fixed if they are supposedly defective.
Except there have been tons of reports of people seeing significant blue shift so it's not just a couple phones. Google needs to get display models fixed if they are supposedly defective.
Re: PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious...
The X doesn't release until Friday. Also why would reports come to an android forum for an iPhone?
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Seriously I get you want to say let's not accuse stuff or say "LOOK AT THEM!" before hand but you're saying this ...
"This released phone has reports but this unreleased one doesn't."
Really? If you're going to be fair then be fair .. otherwise just chill.. because it seems a tad ridiculous to defend an unreleased phone about "no claims" since .. you know .. people don't have it yet.
Either way I don't care. Just don't pretend to be fair but yet... not. At least at the time of this post.
The X doesn't release until Friday. Also why would reports come to an android forum for an iPhone?
. Seriously I get you want to say let's not accuse stuff or say "LOOK AT THEM!" before hand but you're saying this ...
"This released phone has reports but this unreleased one doesn't."
Really? If you're going to be fair then be fair .. otherwise just chill.. because it seems a tad ridiculous to defend an unreleased phone about "no claims" since .. you know .. people don't have it yet
.Either way I don't care. Just don't pretend to be fair but yet... not. At least at the time of this post.
Re: PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious...
This video shows the difference between the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL pretty well: https://youtu.be/ixq2amdZ7S0
This video shows the difference between the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL pretty well: https://youtu.be/ixq2amdZ7S0
vzwuser76
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Re: PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious...
Am I missing something here? I thought the 2 XL had rounded corners. Both of these have square corners and appear to have more bezel than the 2 XL. This looks more like a pair of last year's XLs or this year's Pixel 2s.
Am I missing something here? I thought the 2 XL had rounded corners. Both of these have square corners and appear to have more bezel than the 2 XL. This looks more like a pair of last year's XLs or this year's Pixel 2s.
vzwuser76
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Re: PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious...
Echoing what Almeuit said, the Pixels have been in customer's hands now for a couple weeks, whereas the X isn't released to the general public yet. And most of this whole debacle started after it got into the end users hands, not the reviewers. So why not wait and see what actually happens when the Xs get out into the wild before saying their color shift problems aren't an issue. I know some will say that with Apple's RDF, the fanboys won't say anything bad about it even if it has similar issues. But with the phone commanding $1000+, I have to believe that no one's going to be silent if they experience the issue.
Echoing what Almeuit said, the Pixels have been in customer's hands now for a couple weeks, whereas the X isn't released to the general public yet. And most of this whole debacle started after it got into the end users hands, not the reviewers. So why not wait and see what actually happens when the Xs get out into the wild before saying their color shift problems aren't an issue. I know some will say that with Apple's RDF, the fanboys won't say anything bad about it even if it has similar issues. But with the phone commanding $1000+, I have to believe that no one's going to be silent if they experience the issue.
vzwuser76
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Re: PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious...
See this is what I meant when I said that the previous video showing color shift on two 2 XLs didn't look like 2 XLs but rather either two XLs from last year or two regular Pixel 2s. Note the rounded corners on the display of the 2 XL screen. The video that dsignori posted don't have that.
See this is what I meant when I said that the previous video showing color shift on two 2 XLs didn't look like 2 XLs but rather either two XLs from last year or two regular Pixel 2s. Note the rounded corners on the display of the 2 XL screen. The video that dsignori posted don't have that.
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