[PSA] Do NOT Install Latest Update if Rooted Running Stock OS

[recDNA]

I wonder if the posts of those stock rooted bolluxed phones have started up again yet?

 

[Green_Laser]

Hi Paintdrinkingpete,

I myself see I'm ok since I'm on a custom rom (band forever 1.10), however my question to you is that I want to take advantage of this weekend and root my wife's tbolt, so would this update change anything if going to do it through revolutionary? (I rooted last weekend before this update came out and had no problems, just checking to see that I still won't have problems after she upgraded to the new software, before root).

 

[Verapakill]

Good thread thank you

 

[mrtonk]

I'm surprised that no one has posted a stock debloated rom yet.

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[recDNA]

Development for tbolt is not what it used to be. Developers must have had 1 year contracts.

 

[anon(394005)]

I'm surprised that no one has posted a stock debloated rom yet.

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Could it be because this new update (2.11.605.9) didn't get leaked as an RUU and is only available as an OTA?

 

[esoteric781]

Crap...I went and tried the update completely forgetting about the rooting, and now I'm stuck on the black screen with the exclamation point...anything I can possibly do? I didn't even think before...damnit

 

[Green_Laser]

Crap...I went and tried the update completely forgetting about the rooting, and now I'm stuck on the black screen with the exclamation point...anything I can possibly do? I didn't even think before...damnit

Hopefully you made a nandroid of your stock rooted, boot into recovery and wipe all 3, then restore your nandroid. After that loads, restore your mybackup and your titanium files.
Should work, no?

 

[esoteric781]

I do have a titanium backup, I don't think I did a nandroid of my stock rooted however, I'm honestly not sure...I try to turn the phone back on but when it boots up it automatically tries to apply the update again and again...now its just stuck on the white HTC screen. Any way I can boot into recovery mode without having it attempt to apply the update?

 

[z71kris]

If you have a micro SD card reader you could put it in the computer and try deleting the update file...

sent from my infected thunderbolt

 

[esoteric781]

If you have a micro SD card reader you could put it in the computer and try deleting the update file...

sent from my infected thunderbolt

Any idea which folder the update file would be in? I do have an SD card reader

 

[Green_Laser]

I do have a titanium backup, I don't think I did a nandroid of my stock rooted however, I'm honestly not sure...I try to turn the phone back on but when it boots up it automatically tries to apply the update again and again...now its just stuck on the white HTC screen. Any way I can boot into recovery mode without having it attempt to apply the update?

Not sure but maybe this is possible, since you have a titanium backup and possibly no nandroid, you could maybe download debloated zip that the OP posted, boot into hboot, then boot into recovery, then wipe all 3, then flash the reinstall ruu from OP, let that load, then strike with titanium.
Anyone, could that work?

 

[ebender1965]

If on the black screen with the triangle, press the menu button and the revolutionary menu Will come up. Wipe the cache partition, then reboot. If you do not wipe the cache your phone Will try to run the updates constantly.

How do I know this? It happened to me so I had to work through all of this myself. Good luck!

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[paintdrinkingpete]

Hi Paintdrinkingpete,

I myself see I'm ok since I'm on a custom rom (band forever 1.10), however my question to you is that I want to take advantage of this weekend and root my wife's tbolt, so would this update change anything if going to do it through revolutionary? (I rooted last weekend before this update came out and had no problems, just checking to see that I still won't have problems after she upgraded to the new software, before root).

Well, I'd root now, and forget about the update, since many are reporting the Revolutionary is working since this update came out. I haven't confirmed that, but it seems to be a common theme.

Development for tbolt is not what it used to be. Developers must have had 1 year contracts.

The length of a contract doesn't really anything to do with phone upgrades. As long as you stick with the same network (in this case Verizon), you can change phones all you want without breaking the contract...but your phone may cost (a lot) more. For the past 4 years, I've switched phones after about 12 months. Yes, I could wait for the 2 years to be up and get a subsidized price, but you don't have to do that. Personal preference really. And honestly, in almost all cases, I've called VZW customer support and managed to get a discounted price and my new phone anyway.

 

[Green_Laser]

Well, I'd root now, and forget about the update, since many are reporting the Revolutionary is working since this update came out. I haven't confirmed that, but it seems to be a common theme.

I'm assuming you meant to type that revolutionary isn't working after the update. And that's my problem, wife's phone has the update. I also understand that I can still try Revo, and it will either simply work or not, without harming the phone if it isn't successful. Reason I bring this up is for this next scenario:
Let's say Revo couldn't root it, is it possible to load the previous radio, only the radio zip through hboot onto her phone, then root with Revo, and then flash the newer radio through hboot, (zip file on root of card etc)?

I know that this is how someone with a custom rom would flash a radio, and curious if to avoid this method on a stock device.

 

[paintdrinkingpete]

I'm assuming you meant to type that revolutionary isn't working after the update. And that's my problem, wife's phone has the update. I also understand that I can still try Revo, and it will either simply work or not, without harming the phone if it isn't successful. Reason I bring this up is for this next scenario:
Let's say Revo couldn't root it, is it possible to load the previous radio, only the radio zip through hboot onto her phone, then root with Revo, and then flash the newer radio through hboot, (zip file on root of card etc)?

I know that this is how someone with a custom rom would flash a radio, and curious if to avoid this method on a stock device.

Yes, that's what I meant. I'm not sure that would be able to do that. Remember, if you're not rooted, the bootloader is locked, so you probably couldn't install a different radio if you wanted to. On that note, I doubt it's the "radio" that is preventing the Revo method from working...I'm guessing that the newest update actually updates the HBOOT version, which patches the exploit that the Revolutionary method to gain permanent root uses. Just a guess though.

 

[Green_Laser]

Yes, that's what I meant. I'm not sure that would be able to do that. Remember, if you're not rooted, the bootloader is locked, so you probably couldn't install a different radio if you wanted to. On that note, I doubt it's the "radio" that is preventing the Revo method from working...I'm guessing that the newest update actually updates the HBOOT version, which patches the exploit that the Revolutionary method to gain permanent root uses. Just a guess though.

after reading your post, I've come to have an "ah-ha" moment.
This makes sense to me and makes me understand more how the root world aspects gel together - thanks.
So, my guess is, IF I am not able to root her phone (I will still try), then I simply have to wait until Revo gets updated.

mad at self for accepting update - simply wasn't thinking