push email possible with juice defender

[lancelot916]

im using k9 for push email for imap and using juice defender ultimate. so it seems it saves juice by disabling 3g/wifi when screen is off and i can choose apps that i allow to operate even when screen is off. even though i enable k9 to work with screen off, i dont get push email.

thoughts on this?

 

[Sahmbo1]

That's strange, I use Incredible Mail (i think that's what it's called) and use push. My emails come right through with JuiceDefender Ultimate. I've got mine set to enabled/screen off. Dummy check, maybe make sure it's checked as such.

 

[Jinded]

That's strange, I use Incredible Mail (i think that's what it's called) and use push. My emails come right through with JuiceDefender Ultimate. I've got mine set to enabled/screen off. Dummy check, maybe make sure it's checked as such.

Sahmbo, are you sure you're getting email pushed, and not just every 15 minutes that Juice Defender re-enables 3G? Theoretically, push shouldn't work if data is disabled, and by default Juice Defender disables data for 15 minutes at a time, then re-enables it for 1 minutes. So you should be getting your emails every 15 minutes.

 

[carraser891]

Does anyone use the stock email app for main email? It works just as good as a blackberry in my opinion

 

[Skunkape60]

Does anyone use the stock email app for main email? It works just as good as a blackberry in my opinion

Yes, it seems to work just fine. I've used K-9 and MailDroid for my pop3 accounts and I don't feel either one of them offer a more reliable way to get my email. Now I just use the stock app and the gmail app.

 

[ragnarokx]

GMail ftw. My mail email address is a GMail account, and for my others I just auto-forward them. Works great.

 

[Jinded]

Just to be clear, this thread isn't really about which email app has the best features/push, it's about getting push to work while using Juice Defender. Just trying to stay on topic.

 

[ragnarokx]

Does GMail work when the screen is off? If it does you can use it to test, and see if the problem is K9 or Juice Defender.

 

[Skunkape60]

Does GMail work when the screen is off? If it does you can use it to test, and see if the problem is K9 or Juice Defender.

Normally the gmail app works with the screen off. I am not sure how it works with juice defender.

 

[Skunkape60]

GMail ftw. My mail email address is a GMail account, and for my others I just auto-forward them. Works great.

Great idea! I just set up both my hotmail and my roadrunner pop3 to forward the email to my gmail account. While I wasn't having any issues with the stock email app, The gmail app just seems to work better and the mail seems to get to the gmail app much faster. Not to mention the benefit of all my mail going to the same place.

I have been forwarding my landline calls to my mobile phone for several years. I never thought of doing the same with my email.

Thanks!

 

[Sahmbo1]

And yes, it's push. I wish I only got an email every 15 minutes.

 

[lancelot916]

tried gmail and k9, both enabled/screen off on juice defender ultimate and nothing

 

[a_c_s]

You cannot get push email with Juice Defender... I have both imap idle push accounts via the gmail app, and a work email via exchange active on my phone... Juice Defender saves battery by limiting up time on the data connection... you may think you have push if you've customized settings to something like 2m every 5m for data, but it's not true push... for most of us, that's damn near close enough though, and if it saves even a little battery, probably worth the tradeoff... I am personally set at 15M / 5M and it seems to deliver emails pretty efficiently... if you think about it, and assume that incoming emails are staggered over the day, that setting should get emails to you generally within a few minutes of when they were sent, sometimes sooner...

The only way juice defender would allow push, would be if you disabled it for managing data, and only used it to manage wifi, night schedules, and things of that nature... your email programs do not overcome juice defender's settings as far a I have experienced, and I've monitored this for a while now...

 

[lancelot916]

thanks acs. what exactly is idle push? on k9 I have push and disabled all polling. should I enable polling?

 

[a_c_s]

thanks acs. what exactly is idle push? on k9 I have push and disabled all polling. should I enable polling?

I generally do enable polling... imap idle is just a push technology that google happens to use... microsoft uses activesync exchange... they all accomplish the same task, which is real-time email delivery... google just pioneered a free way of getting push email... on Yahoo and others you have to pay up for a premium acct to get this functionality, otherwise your only option is POP (pull) email access at set intervals... in a sense, using Juice Defender with a push account almost functionally turns it into a POP acct...

 

[werkx]

I generally do enable polling... imap idle is just a push technology that google happens to use... microsoft uses activesync exchange... they all accomplish the same task, which is real-time email delivery... google just pioneered a free way of getting push email... on Yahoo and others you have to pay up for a premium acct to get this functionality, otherwise your only option is POP (pull) email access at set intervals... in a sense, using Juice Defender with a push account almost functionally turns it into a POP acct...

good info. so, even if you tell juice defender to ignore the email app (config email app to be enable/screen off) it would still cut off data?

 

[a_c_s]

good info. so, even if you tell juice defender to ignore the email app (config email app to be enable/screen off) it would still cut off data?

Try it out and let us know... I haven't fooled with that particular setting... since push email is one of the main drains I encounter, enabling that to work and using Juice Defender for everything else wouldn't make enough of a difference in my case to make it worthwhile... I don't really have anything else but weather set to auto-update, and that's just hourly...

 

[werkx]

Try it out and let us know... I haven't fooled with that particular setting... since push email is one of the main drains I encounter, enabling that to work and using Juice Defender for everything else wouldn't make enough of a difference in my case to make it worthwhile... I don't really have anything else but weather set to auto-update, and that's just hourly...

i'm with you, not worth my time or battery, either. i just wanted to know for future reference.