I think the Vigor is about 2 months behind the Holiday in the rumor mill. We had first pix of the Holiday in early May. We had first specs by the end of May/early June. The prototypes started showing up in early August (the Craigslist phone). Now we're seeing fully functional prototypes. The Vigor is about where the Holiday was in June. Hang in there. VZW has a boatload of good android phones. ATT is playing catch up. We deserve our chance to drool over some sweet gadgetry, too.