Quick Look at the Huawei Mate 8, Rumored Basis of the Huawei Nexus (Video and Pics)

[beaner b]

yeah @evleaks has had his fair share of inaccurate rumors (I still haven't gotten over the M9) but he's obviously still a reliable source.
One important thing to realize is that Google is teaming up with Hauwei so they can expand their presence in China. Unlike the US, they don't tolerate smaller batteries, and Hauwei is known for large displays and large batteries. Anything less than 3600 mAh would fall way short of the competition, and Google is smart enough to realize that (at least I hope so).

If you say going from zero to something is expanding then I agree. Although google is working on a few fronts in the effort, it doesn't seem like that's going to happen anytime soon. The odds of this Huawei nexus being released in China, I'm thinking are slim to...

 

[getbretweir]

If you say going from zero to something is expanding then I agree. Although google is working on a few fronts in the effort, it doesn't seem like that's going to happen anytime soon. The odds of this Huawei nexus being released in China, I'm thinking are slim to...

I don't think it would be exclusive to China, so if that's your point I agree. But I think it's more than likely that Google is partnering with Hauwei in order to make more of a presence there.

Why would they do business with a Chinese OEM and not offer it in China? What would be the benefit for either company?

 

[getbretweir]

Google (I would hope) has to be aware of Huawei's penchant for using big batteries in their phablets. They should be aware that battery size is a major selling point. I have to wonder in which areas Google feels we should compromise. It's obvious to me that they feel the LG Nexus will be the better selling phone, and that the Huawei would be a niche buy.

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I'd think that perhaps in NA and Europe the LG would be expected to outsell the Hauwei, but certainly in China it'll be the more popular of the two. Not sure the LG would even be offered there but we'll see.

 

[beaner b]

I don't think it would be exclusive to China, so if that's your point I agree. But I think it's more than likely that Google is partnering with Hauwei in order to make more of a presence there.
Why would they do business with a Chinese OEM and not offer it in China? What would be the benefit for either company?

Google and the Chinese government have not had the best of relationships for the last 5 years or more. As for now, all
google services are banned in China (maybe not Translate -not sure really), including the playstore. So I guess they could release the phone in China, but i don't know what kind of nexus device would it be without google services.
I'll be the last one to claim any real understanding of what's going on with google and the Chinese government but I thought from the beginning that the benefit google would gain from the partnership with Huawei was more of a toe in the door that slammed on their **** than an actual walk back through. Benefit for Huawei is obviously a western presence. I think they'd like to make a statement with their hardware and hopefully overcome the mistrust that people seem to have about them here.
I promise to trust them if they give me my 6" screen and 4300 mAh battery!

 

[dusoccer10]

Google and the Chinese government have not had the best of relationships for the last 5 years or more. As for now, all
google services are banned in China (maybe not Translate -not sure really), including the playstore. So I guess they could release the phone in China, but i don't know what kind of nexus device would it be without google services.
I'll be the last one to claim any real understanding of what's going on with google and the Chinese government but I thought from the beginning that the benefit google would gain from the partnership with Huawei was more of a toe in the door that slammed on their **** than an actual walk back through. Benefit for Huawei is obviously a western presence. I think they'd like to make a statement with their hardware and hopefully overcome the mistrust that people seem to have about them here.
I promise to trust them if they give me my 6" screen and 4300 mAh battery!

Google has a billion of reasons for wanting to get back into China. The rumors have been heating up in the last few months:

[APK Teardown] Play Services 7.5 - Part 2: Chrome Sync Might Be Relocating, Google Play In China, Kid Accounts, And A Random Facebook Logo --where a teardown found a logo that was part China and part Google Play.

http://phandroid.com/2015/07/10/huawei-nexus-watch-chinese-google-play-store/ -- where the tied in the potential Google/Huawei relationship, play store in China, paying of OEMs, and the Huawei Watch.

It really makes a lot of sense for Google and Huawei to team up and produce a Nexus.

 

[getbretweir]

Google and the Chinese government have not had the best of relationships for the last 5 years or more. As for now, all
google services are banned in China (maybe not Translate -not sure really), including the playstore. So I guess they could release the phone in China, but i don't know what kind of nexus device would it be without google services.
I'll be the last one to claim any real understanding of what's going on with google and the Chinese government but I thought from the beginning that the benefit google would gain from the partnership with Huawei was more of a toe in the door that slammed on their **** than an actual walk back through. Benefit for Huawei is obviously a western presence. I think they'd like to make a statement with their hardware and hopefully overcome the mistrust that people seem to have about them here.
I promise to trust them if they give me my 6" screen and 4300 mAh battery!

wow, I didn't know that. I mean, I knew their relationship was strained due to the limitations on China's citizens regarding privacy and freedom of internet, but I didn't know it was to that extent.

that actually makes this Hauwei Nexus issue fascinating and I'll be looking forward to see how that plays out, thanks for the info!

for some reason I just didn't put two and two together, but obviously it makes sense now.

4300 mAh on a 6" display, my thumbs will fall of hitting F5 launch day!

 

[getbretweir]

Google has a billion of reasons for wanting to get back into China. The rumors have been heating up in the last few months:

[APK Teardown] Play Services 7.5 - Part 2: Chrome Sync Might Be Relocating, Google Play In China, Kid Accounts, And A Random Facebook Logo --where a teardown found a logo that was part China and part Google Play.

http://phandroid.com/2015/07/10/huawei-nexus-watch-chinese-google-play-store/ -- where the tied in the potential Google/Huawei relationship, play store in China, paying of OEMs, and the Huawei Watch.

It really makes a lot of sense for Google and Huawei to team up and produce a Nexus.

thanks for the links! it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out and what compromises both parties make along the way.

 

[I Can Be Your Hero]

yeah @evleaks has had his fair share of inaccurate rumors (I still haven't gotten over the M9) but he's obviously still a reliable source.

Personally, I'd rather see a 5.7" display with a 3600 battery than 6" 4100 ... I'd still be on the Play Store the second it launched though!!

One important thing to realize is that Google is teaming up with Hauwei so they can expand their presence in China. Unlike the US, they don't tolerate smaller batteries, and Hauwei is known for large displays and large batteries. Anything less than 3600 mAh would fall way short of the competition, and Google is smart enough to realize that (at least I hope so).

I'm with you.

I was so disappointed when those M9 evleak pictures ended up not being true. I think I would have been fine with the M9 if those pics didn't leak, but it had my expectations too high.

And which that was a pretty bad mark against evleaks to me, he's still pretty reliable.

Also agree that Huawei tend to put rather large batteries in their phones, so I hope the trend continues with the new Nexus.

 

[getbretweir]

I'm with you.

I was so disappointed when those M9 evleak pictures ended up not being true. I think I would have been fine with the M9 if those pics didn't leak, but it had my expectations too high.

And which that was a pretty bad mark against evleaks to me, he's still pretty reliable.

Also agree that Huawei tend to put rather large batteries in their phones, so I hope the trend continues with the new Nexus.

it's so true, the @evleaks render was so gorgeous that when it proved to be false we were all pretty disappointed. no doubt they would've been better off had that never existed. as unfair as it might be, some people are gonna expect the M10 to at least look similar to that render, or something equally stunning.

unfortunately HTC's issues, as you commented on in the article in AC, go way beyond the design of their phone, so even if they do release the "perfect" device, it still might be too little too late.

until a couple days ago, I had never considered the Nexus not being distributed in China. I knew the government was restrictive, but for whatever reason never put two and two together, so now I have some doubt about whether Google will be allowed to actually sell the Nexus there.

Everything I've read leads me to believe Google Play will exist in China, albeit in a somewhat limited capacity. It'll be interesting to see, assuming they do reach an agreement, what concessions the government and Google make.

From a broader perspective, I think we'd all like to see Google exist in China for the obvious human rights issues. On a smaller scale though, and somewhat selfishly, if Google can distribute the Hauwei Nexus there, they'd definitely incorporate the larger display and bigger battery. Suddenly that phone doesn't become just another phone, but the first impression Google makes in the largest market in the world, meaning 100% of it will be designed for China ... for people that love larger displays and bigger batteries, that'll be a good thing.

It would also make a lot of sense as to why Google decided to use LG for their smaller Nexus. In addition to size, it could act as a contingency plan should, for whatever reason, something get delayed with China, possibly holding up Hauwei for whatever reason.

Between Verizon, Moto, One+, HTC, Nexus, and even the new Android Blackberry and iPhone, it's really gonna be exciting to see things shake out this Fall. It's a great time to be in need of an upgrade!

 

[jimbo1mcm]

it's so true, the @evleaks render was so gorgeous that when it proved to be false we were all pretty disappointed. no doubt they would've been better off had that never existed. as unfair as it might be, some people are gonna expect the M10 to at least look similar to that render, or something equally stunning.

unfortunately HTC's issues, as you commented on in the article in AC, go way beyond the design of their phone, so even if they do release the "perfect" device, it still might be too little too late.

until a couple days ago, I had never considered the Nexus not being distributed in China. I knew the government was restrictive, but for whatever reason never put two and two together, so now I have some doubt about whether Google will be allowed to actually sell the Nexus there.

Everything I've read leads me to believe Google Play will exist in China, albeit in a somewhat limited capacity. It'll be interesting to see, assuming they do reach an agreement, what concessions the government and Google make.

From a broader perspective, I think we'd all like to see Google exist in China for the obvious human rights issues. On a smaller scale though, and somewhat selfishly, if Google can distribute the Hauwei Nexus there, they'd definitely incorporate the larger display and bigger battery. Suddenly that phone doesn't become just another phone, but the first impression Google makes in the largest market in the world, meaning 100% of it will be designed for China ... for people that love larger displays and bigger batteries, that'll be a good thing.

It would also make a lot of sense as to why Google decided to use LG for their smaller Nexus. In addition to size, it could act as a contingency plan should, for whatever reason, something get delayed with China, possibly holding up Hauwei for whatever reason.

Between Verizon, Moto, One+, HTC, Nexus, and even the new Android Blackberry and iPhone, it's really gonna be exciting to see things shake out this Fall. It's a great time to be in need of an upgrade!

Have to get one of them, whether I need an upgrade or not!!

 

[bunique4life05]

What don't you understand about me telling you that many sources have said neither phone is based off of any phone that already exists in any way, under the hood, or the way it looks?

The LG Nexus is not based on any other LG phone, and the Huawei Nexus is not based on any other Huawei phone. You're making no sense, sorry. If you don't want either phone that's up to you. Just don't be surprised if it performs better than you expect.

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[theduder]

Agreed about needing more SOT. My Nexus 6 is so useful that there are days I don't even open my work laptop. I regularly have days when I'm flat just after lunch and often have to charge two or three times a day. Thank goodness for the quick charging but still...

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