Removable battery a complete non issue if your considering a S4 Vs. One

[fz1jmp]

I posted in another thread my thoughts about the S4 I played with yesterday, but I just wanted to add this; when the salesperson took off the back of the S4 to show me the battery, it seemed that when she pulled the back off and put it back on, the connecting pieces were starting to wear already and eventually will not hold the back on tight. Mind you it was a fairly new phone. Now I know its a demo.

Not only that, if I have a case on it I have to take the case off then pull the back off. In my infinite paranoia about keeping my phone pristine, I would always go for the external battery every time. My Anker Slim is almost as small as an extra battery and holds 2x's the charges. Bottom line, the "removable battery" argument against the One is a waste of thought, in my opinion of course.

If your considering both, you owe it to yourself to go and play with the S4, then decide. It was a great phone and if I didn't get the One, I would of certainly got the S4. But decide based on features and UI.

 

[lou61166]

I posted in another thread my thoughts about the S4 I played with yesterday, but I just wanted to add this; when the salesperson took off the back of the S4 to show me the battery, it seemed that when she pulled the back off and put it back on, the connecting pieces were starting to wear already and eventually will not hold the back on tight. Mind you it was a fairly new phone. Now I know its a demo.

Not only that, if I have a case on it I have to take the case off then pull the back off. In my infinite paranoia about keeping my phone pristine, I would always go for the external battery every time. My Anker Slim is almost as small as an extra battery and holds 2x's the charges. Bottom line, the "removable battery" argument against the One is a waste of thought, in my opinion of course.

If your considering both, you owe it to yourself to go and play with the S4, then decide. It was a great phone and if I didn't get the One, I would of certainly got the S4. But decide based on features and UI.

I agree the non removable battery on my DNA is not an issue 6 months in.

 

[mysterygirl]

A non-issue for me, and I'm someone who always carries an extra battery! For the One, that extra battery just happens to be a slim battery bank.

It's interesting, because it would seem that Android is moving in the direction of non-removable battery and no SD card slot. I think a lot of people will eventually have to get onboard with this. Sammy may continue to use this as a distinguishing factor. Choice is good, so I'm not opposed to that. But for all the discussion that this topic causes, the reality is that most of us will probably eventually need to adjust if you plan to ever own anything but a Sammy phone.

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[anon(394005)]

I posted in another thread my thoughts about the S4 I played with yesterday, but I just wanted to add this; when the salesperson took off the back of the S4 to show me the battery, it seemed that when she pulled the back off and put it back on, the connecting pieces were starting to wear already and eventually will not hold the back on tight. Mind you it was a fairly new phone. Now I know its a demo.

Not only that, if I have a case on it I have to take the case off then pull the back off. In my infinite paranoia about keeping my phone pristine, I would always go for the external battery every time. My Anker Slim is almost as small as an extra battery and holds 2x's the charges. Bottom line, the "removable battery" argument against the One is a waste of thought, in my opinion of course.

If your considering both, you owe it to yourself to go and play with the S4, then decide. It was a great phone and if I didn't get the One, I would of certainly got the S4. But decide based on features and UI.

I've had my Note 2 for five months now and take the battery cover off every few days to swap out for a fresh battery and it still fits snug on the phone with no indication of wear on the door or phone itself. As long as you're careful, it's not a problem. Even so, there is always the option of getting a new battery cover if needed.

As to removable batteries, they're an important feature to consider for many people. Below are my two cents on it (that I've posted here before):

I look at the issue with a different mindset than most; in that why give up the option of a user-replaceable battery for no real tangible benefit (can't say a slimmer phone anymore as the S4 is slimmer than the One)? Also, it?s not about how great battery life may be and if I can make it through a whole day on a charge. It?s more so about the inconvenience of having to ever tether the device to a charge, something you have to do with a sealed/embedded battery as you have no other choice. Frankly, I don?t like limiting my choices, especially in that way.

In comparison, with a user-replaceable battery I can have as many spares as I want and just swap them out as needed at any time, which only takes a couple minutes to do and has the added benefit of reloading/refreshing the system to keep things running smoothly as Android tends to get laggy the longer it's been running (even my Nexus 7 with vanilla Android and minimal installed apps does). Then I can go about my business using the phone however I wish without concern if I?ll be near a charger to top off or having some type of charging pack stuck to the device encumbering its use (for however long it takes to get needed charge). And finally, should the battery ever have an issue during the entire life of the phone, I can simply purchase another and easily replace it myself.

Bottom line, I?d rather have the option of a user-replaceable battery and not use it (if I don?t want to) than to not have the option at all.

 

[The Hustleman]

I posted in another thread my thoughts about the S4 I played with yesterday, but I just wanted to add this; when the salesperson took off the back of the S4 to show me the battery, it seemed that when she pulled the back off and put it back on, the connecting pieces were starting to wear already and eventually will not hold the back on tight. Mind you it was a fairly new phone. Now I know its a demo.

Not only that, if I have a case on it I have to take the case off then pull the back off. In my infinite paranoia about keeping my phone pristine, I would always go for the external battery every time. My Anker Slim is almost as small as an extra battery and holds 2x's the charges. Bottom line, the "removable battery" argument against the One is a waste of thought, in my opinion of course.

If your considering both, you owe it to yourself to go and play with the S4, then decide. It was a great phone and if I didn't get the One, I would of certainly got the S4. But decide based on features and UI.

Only thing is with an external battery pack you have to connect it to the phone, let it sit and charge some , THEN go ahead and use it. At night (or during the day) you have to charge the battery pack

With extra batteries you simply pop another battery in it and you're right back to 100%. Can be done within 20 seconds and that includes peeling off the Otterbox (what I use), the back cover, changing the battery, and popping the cover back on.

For me, it's just so much more convenient to get the phone back to 100% within 20 seconds.

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[avwheeler]

On the LTE I really like the power button as simulated battery pull and not having to take out battery for same effect, backup battery nice, but previous devices that I had for, never really swapped, non issue for me. Basically s4 or One in Black, whatever I can get my hands on locally first will be new phone, hoping for the One, but would not mind change.

Curious, does s4 have simulated battery pull with power as well?

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[The Hustleman]

On the LTE I really like the power button as simulated battery pull and not having to take out battery for same effect, backup battery nice, but previous devices that I had for, never really swapped, non issue for me. Basically s4 or One in Black, whatever I can get my hands on locally first will be new phone, hoping for the One, but would not mind change.

Curious, does s4 have simulated battery pull with power as well?

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I can tell you're a light user.

I have yet to run into a phone that lasts all day

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[return_0]

I can tell you're a light user.

I have yet to run into a phone that lasts all day

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My Nexus 4, which is supposedly one of the worst phones battery-wise, can last all day with heavy use (over 4 hours screen time).

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[aokusman1]

I posted in another thread my thoughts about the S4 I played with yesterday, but I just wanted to add this; when the salesperson took off the back of the S4 to show me the battery, it seemed that when she pulled the back off and put it back on, the connecting pieces were starting to wear already and eventually will not hold the back on tight. Mind you it was a fairly new phone. Now I know its a demo.

Not only that, if I have a case on it I have to take the case off then pull the back off. In my infinite paranoia about keeping my phone pristine, I would always go for the external battery every time. My Anker Slim is almost as small as an extra battery and holds 2x's the charges. Bottom line, the "removable battery" argument against the One is a waste of thought, in my opinion of course.

If your considering both, you owe it to yourself to go and play with the S4, then decide. It was a great phone and if I didn't get the One, I would of certainly got the S4. But decide based on features and UI.

Phones have had removable batteries of decades and nothing had been wrong with the battery covers. That's not a reason not to get a phone with one. People have what they like and will buy accordingly.

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[The Hustleman]

My Nexus 4, which is supposedly one of the worst phones battery-wise, can last all day with heavy use (over 4 hours).

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Then at least one of the following is true

1. You took it apart and somehow found a bigger battery to fit inside it

2. You're one of those people that barely use the phone and when you finally get some decent usage out of it, you call it heavy usage

3. You're not telling the complete truth

4. You plug it in throughout the day


Reason being I've used a Nexus 4 (phone swap with a friend for a week) and that thing would die in the middle of the day with heavy usage




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[return_0]

Then at least one of the following is true

1. You took it apart and somehow found a bigger battery to fit inside it

No.

2. You're one of those people that barely use the phone and when you finally get some decent usage out of it, you call it heavy usage

I did say 4 hours screen time, didn't I?

3. You're not telling the complete truth

Wow. Not at all.

4. You plug it in throughout the day

No, I didn't.

Reason being I've used a Nexus 4 (phone swap with a friend for a week) and that thing would die in the middle of the day with heavy usage




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Yeah, either it's defective or you're song something wrong.

Keep in mind I had everything on: Wi-Fi, mobile data, GPS, etc...


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[ScottsoNJ]

Only thing is with an external battery pack you have to connect it to the phone, let it sit and charge some , THEN go ahead and use it. At night (or during the day) you have to charge the battery pack

With extra batteries you simply pop another battery in it and you're right back to 100%. Can be done within 20 seconds and that includes peeling off the Otterbox (what I use), the back cover, changing the battery, and popping the cover back on.

For me, it's just so much more convenient to get the phone back to 100% within 20 seconds.

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Don't you also have to buy something to charge the extra battery and have that charge to use it?

 

[recDNA]

A non-issue for me, and I'm someone who always carries an extra battery! For the One, that extra battery just happens to be a slim battery bank.

It's interesting, because it would seem that Android is moving in the direction of non-removable battery and no SD card slot. I think a lot of people will eventually have to get onboard with this. Sammy may continue to use this as a distinguishing factor. Choice is good, so I'm not opposed to that. But for all the discussion that this topic causes, the reality is that most of us will probably eventually need to adjust if you plan to ever own anything but a Sammy phone.

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If you do a factory reset do you lose all of the data you have saved like word and excel files?

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[return_0]

If you do a factory reset do you lose all of the data you have saved like word and excel files?

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Yes, but... what? Off topic...?

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[Ichi_Bear]

The reason I got my S3 is because I like to have the option of a removable battery and a Micro SD slot. At least if you have a problem with the battery in the future, like if it won't hold a charge (I had that problem with a previous Sony Xperia phone), you have the option to change it. The life of a fixed battery phone is limited. :-\

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[The Real X Dawg]

Battery is the biggest reason why I might go with the S4 because I'm a very heavy user. Have an extended battery in my Infuse and Note 2 but with the One that's not an option for the moment.


My phone is a good One!

 

[dchawk81]

Don't you also have to buy something to charge the extra battery and have that charge to use it?

Absolutely, but it's plugged into the wall and stays there. You don't need to hook your phone to it and stay within range of the USB cord.

I have a charging dock that also charges a spare battery simultaneously. It's the best of both worlds. The phone is getting replenished when it's not needed and the spare battery is always ready to go.

 

[Quis89]

I can tell you're a light user.

I have yet to run into a phone that lasts all day

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Galaxy note 2 is the only phone I've been able to do that with. And I'm far from a light user.

 

[return_0]

So no one's used a RAZR MAXX HD?

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[The Hustleman]

Absolutely, but it's plugged into the wall and stays there. You don't need to hook your phone to it and stay within range of the USB cord.

I have a charging dock that also charges a spare battery simultaneously. It's the best of both worlds. The phone is getting replenished when it's not needed and the spare battery is always ready to go.

You beat me to it, plus it's only 3 bucks for the dock, very worth it for the convenience

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