Removable battery a complete non issue if your considering a S4 Vs. One

[dchawk81]

Thanks for the informative and pleasant response, I see your point and could certainly see the positive about having extra batteries. I still have to take off my cover, for me, that hassle is greater then just using an external battery. Appreciated!!

I think removing a battery cover is about as big of a hassle as reaching into a McDonald's bag to get to your fries. It's just not a thing.

I will cede the point if you have one of those cheap cases that are about as easy to remove as a piece of installation art though.

 

[fz1jmp]

I think removing a battery cover is about as big of a hassle as reaching into a McDonald's bag to get to your fries. It's just not a thing.

I will cede the point if you have one of those cheap cases that are about as easy to remove as a piece of installation art though.

Anytime you can include a food analogy to make a point, I stand humbled!

I currently have the Clear Cruzerlite Bugdroid Circuit TPU Case For HTC One, its cheap but nice until I find another one. I think I was so used to the IPhone all these years, I never thought about swapping batteries. So like I said in my original post, it was not high in my list. But, you have actually moved me towards thinking it is a pretty nice feature. I love the One so its not in the cards for the next 2 years.

 

[dchawk81]

Anytime you can include a food analogy to make a point, I stand humbled!

I currently have the Clear Cruzerlite Bugdroid Circuit TPU Case For HTC One, its cheap but nice until I find another one. I think I was so used to the IPhone all these years, I never thought about swapping batteries. So like I said in my original post, it was not high in my list. But, you have actually moved me towards thinking it is a pretty nice feature. I love the One so its not in the cards for the next 2 years.

I'm not familiar with that case but I've sworn off of them entirely because they do make battery changing less convenient than simply plugging in.

My problem is I can't predict when I'll be caught out with a flat battery, so even if a phone had a gigantic 4400mAh in it, I'd need it to be removable because even a big battery will die at some point, and I simply can't drop everything to plug in.

 

[fz1jmp]

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[dchawk81]

I've been around long enough to not only expect certain behaviors, but enjoy them. Bullies are only strong in there minds, so no harm.

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[The Hustleman]

I'm not familiar with that case but I've sworn off of them entirely because they do make battery changing less convenient than simply plugging in.

My problem is I can't predict when I'll be caught out with a flat battery, so even if a phone had a gigantic 4400mAh in it, I'd need it to be removable because even a big battery will die at some point, and I simply can't drop everything to plug in.

My views exactly!

Not much is more irritating than having to charge a phone with a power pack when I can merely pop in a new battery and go from zero percent battery to 100% battery in seconds.

My wife has a battery pack for her Razr M. It got great battery life at first, but 6 months in and is gone downhill. That battery pack is bigger than two batteries

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[warpdrive]

Welcome fz to android, and I hope you enjoy your new HTC one.

Another reason to like removable battery us what happened to me years ago before I went to android.
I was still on blackberry and my battery just wouldn't hold a charge after a year or so. After a 5 minute stop at my local radio shack, I was back up and running without even making a one hour trip to the Sprint store.

I saved time and money and didn't need to exchange my phone. With no sd card, I would loose my media too, maybe.

Just some thoughts....

sent with my 2 year old HTC evo3d

 

[fz1jmp]

My views exactly!

Not much is more irritating than having to charge a phone with a power pack when I can merely pop in a new battery and go from zero percent battery to 100% battery in seconds.

My wife has a battery pack for her Razr M. It got great battery life at first, but 6 months in and is gone downhill. That battery pack is bigger than two batteries

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Does make sense, your right. It is kind of a hassle while the phone is charging to keep the battery pack together with the phone and all. Now, I typically have been getting 12+ hours out of the One, so for me, on a normal work day, I don't have any issue. When we are out all day and I know we will all need charges, I will bring my external battery. But, for me, bottom line, if 2 phones had the exact same everything, but 1 was removable battery and 1 was not, I would obviously go with the removable battery. But, for me, the feature differences between the One and the S4 were more then enough to sway me to the One and the swappable battery was not a factor.
It's conversation like this that makes you think through your choices and by reading what others say, learn a little something.

 

[Habiib]

Someone check my logic. Do I have to turn my phone off to pop another battery in and keep it moving... pardon me, pop another one in.. Wait for reboot, unlock, restart whatever activity I had to terminate and pretend time stood still during the whole process. If you're a heavy user stopping your heavy activity had to be an inconvenience. Also for a heavy user, how can you not see the battery life bleeding away during your heavy usage? Why let it drain down danger close?

What do I do when my spare runs out? Or should I have a deck of batteries just in case.

 

[Raptor007]

I posted in another thread my thoughts about the S4 I played with yesterday, but I just wanted to add this; when the salesperson took off the back of the S4 to show me the battery, it seemed that when she pulled the back off and put it back on, the connecting pieces were starting to wear already and eventually will not hold the back on tight. Mind you it was a fairly new phone. Now I know its a demo.

Not only that, if I have a case on it I have to take the case off then pull the back off. In my infinite paranoia about keeping my phone pristine, I would always go for the external battery every time. My Anker Slim is almost as small as an extra battery and holds 2x's the charges. Bottom line, the "removable battery" argument against the One is a waste of thought, in my opinion of course.

If your considering both, you owe it to yourself to go and play with the S4, then decide. It was a great phone and if I didn't get the One, I would of certainly got the S4. But decide based on features and UI.

I have owned countless Android devices with removable battery doors including the GS1, 2, 3 and none of them had issues with wearing out. So if that is your reasoning behind it, well that's not much of an argument. The fact is HTC does make an HTC One with a removable battery door for CHINA, just not anywhere else due to the dual SIM design. Something they should have actually developed further and incorporated a second SD card instead of the second SIM slot for other markets.

While the HTC One is not dead for me selection wise its a pretty distant second behind the S4. The only way I will go with the HTC One is IF the 32GB GS4 doesn't arrive on AT&T.

My reasons are simple. There is no reason for HTC to have released this phone with 4.1.2, it should have come with 4.2.2 like the S4. HTC has an inconsistent OS update program and we could likely be stuck with 4.1.2 and that's it. Personally I am not looking to be stuck there and I would need assurances we will see 4.2.2, 4.3.0 and at least 5.0, but we know HTC won't.

The lack of removable battery and memory expansion is a concern to me. I am actually planning on using ALL of the memory on my phone. I sold off every last Apple product I had, iPod just died so I need to carry about 40GB of music and podcasts with me plus games and have room. On the GS4 I could put all of that on the 64GB microSD and my apps on the internal 32GB (as its supposed to arrive). HTC has left me with nothing but formatted space for HTC One and I don't know how much usable space there is on the 64GB version.

Now I will say that HTC does have developer unlocked hardware at a lower cost than buying it from say AT&T so that is a plus on its side. Like I said I am not against getting it, but thats if a 32GB GS4 doesn't arrive in the US.

I just want the bigger screen, newest OS and a guaranteed to get the next OS to 5.0 and not be stuck on 4.1.2.

 

[fz1jmp]

Raptor007; I follow your concerns and maybe it males sense to go with the S4, like I said, I played with it and it was great! But I do have a question about what you said with the software versions. So I had the iPhone 5 on ATT and when a new version was released it was ready to update the phone. Being i was jailbroken, I actually had to turn that off. I guess I don't understand why doesn't the One have the newest software. Is it a special version for the One? or is it ATT? What do we wait for to get the latest version?

 

[The Hustleman]

Someone check my logic. Do I have to turn my phone off to pop another battery in and keep it moving... pardon me, pop another one in.. Wait for reboot, unlock, restart whatever activity I had to terminate and pretend time stood still during the whole process. If you're a heavy user stopping your heavy activity had to be an inconvenience. Also for a heavy user, how can you not see the battery life bleeding away during your heavy usage? Why let it drain down danger close?

What do I do when my spare runs out? Or should I have a deck of batteries just in case.

I kinda see where you're coming from but you still have to hold the battery pack next to the phone while using it which is just awkward.

Plus modern day phones boot up within a minute so it's not a big deal, plus I never let it get that low to be in danger of cutting off. My battery never gets below around 20%.

As for the second battery, i have yet to worry about it dying before I get home.

I'm usually charging my other battery while using one. Difference is i don't have to remain tethered to an outlet.

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[dchawk81]

Someone check my logic. Do I have to turn my phone off to pop another battery in and keep it moving... pardon me, pop another one in.. Wait for reboot, unlock, restart whatever activity I had to terminate and pretend time stood still during the whole process. If you're a heavy user stopping your heavy activity had to be an inconvenience. Also for a heavy user, how can you not see the battery life bleeding away during your heavy usage? Why let it drain down danger close?

What do I do when my spare runs out? Or should I have a deck of batteries just in case.

Well, if my battery goes flat and I can neither swap nor charge, I ain't bootin' back up at all. I'm shut down. End of.

With a swappable I may lose the reboot time but at least I can reboot. I haven't been in a situation yet where I can't spare a minute to put in a new battery but I have been in plenty of situations where I can't drop everything to find a USB port, let alone hang out next to one.

Obviously, if I can charge the battery I will do just that. Except, as I stated earlier, I use a dock.

 

[BigDinCA]

The fact is HTC does make an HTC One with a removable battery door for CHINA...

No they don't. There is no battery behind there.

There is no reason for HTC to have released this phone with 4.1.2, it should have come with 4.2.2 like the S4. HTC has an inconsistent OS update program and we could likely be stuck with 4.1.2 and that's it. Personally I am not looking to be stuck there and I would need assurances we will see 4.2.2, 4.3.0 and at least 5.0, but we know HTC won't.

Do we really know this? When did we find this out? I'm kinda disappointed to see someone who's pushing 1700 posts on AC parroting what other people say. You should know better. Do you honestly believe they will never update the OS on this device? Give me a break! They have just as a good a track record of updating their devices as anyone else, save the Nexii. It's more about the carriers with flagship updates. I would be just as irresponsible if I were telling new Android users that Samsung doesn't update their devices either, because some carriers are super-late to the JB party on the GS3. Your complaints about the battery and the microSD slot are totally valid. I personally am not concerned about the battery but am really missing the expandable storage. But the update argument is totally disingenuous and it borders on being a shameful lie.

I'd love to know why it ships a version behind but haven't heard anything from HTC about it. My guess is that they were already building Sense 5 on 4.1.2 and didn't see anything substantive enough to merit starting over with 4.2.2 when they have a timeframe they are working with regarding a release date. If they were shipping this thing w/ Sense 4+ I imagine we would have seen 4.2.2 but because Sense 5 is revamped from top to bottom it requires more work than just tweaking the stuff that was already updated on last year's devices (that's right - HTC updated all of those devices to JB last year). I'm sure it was easier to put it on the GS4 because Touchwiz didn't drastically change much from what the GS3 is running. And that's not meant to be a snide remark about TW.

 

[Raptor007]

No they don't. There is no battery behind there.


Do we really know this? When did we find this out? I'm kinda disappointed to see someone who's pushing 1700 posts on AC parroting what other people say. You should know better. Do you honestly believe they will never update the OS on this device? Give me a break! They have just as a good a track record of updating their devices as anyone else, save the Nexii. It's more about the carriers with flagship updates. I would be just as irresponsible if I were telling new Android users that Samsung doesn't update their devices either, because some carriers are super-late to the JB party on the GS3. Your complaints about the battery and the microSD slot are totally valid. I personally am not concerned about the battery but am really missing the expandable storage. But the update argument is totally disingenuous and it borders on being a shameful lie.

I'd love to know why it ships a version behind but haven't heard anything from HTC about it. My guess is that they were already building Sense 5 on 4.1.2 and didn't see anything substantive enough to merit starting over with 4.2.2 when they have a timeframe they are working with regarding a release date. If they were shipping this thing w/ Sense 4+ I imagine we would have seen 4.2.2 but because Sense 5 is revamped from top to bottom it requires more work than just tweaking the stuff that was already updated on last year's devices (that's right - HTC updated all of those devices to JB last year). I'm sure it was easier to put it on the GS4 because Touchwiz didn't drastically change much from what the GS3 is running. And that's not meant to be a snide remark about TW.

Correction, you are right the battery isn't removable, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, there are 2 SIM Slots AND A FRIGGING MICROSD SLOT. So HTC did it for China,but no where else. So who got played here. All other markets other than China. They had the golden opportunity to match Samsung, heck even beat them but once again failed to deliver fully.

Here is the link: How the HTC One's back cover pops off, China style

 

[The Hustleman]

Correction, you are right the battery isn't removable, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, there are 2 SIM Slots AND A FRIGGING MICROSD SLOT. So HTC did it for China,but no where else. So who got played here. All other markets other than China. They had the golden opportunity to match Samsung, heck even beat them but once again failed to deliver fully.

Here is the link: How the HTC One's back cover pops off, China style

And that's exactly how the us version should have been, except the battery would have been removable

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[engineerpig]

I have been doing that (swapping batteries) for both my Galaxy S2 sets for the past 2 years . Both sets still fit snug on the phones with no indication of wear on the door or phone itself. As long as you're careful, it's not a problem.

 

[Robert Seekins]

You are absolutely correct. Dual Sim, removable storage, and a choice of battery and HTC One would take on Samsung in a underserved whitespace. Same reason that for many years PC destroyed Apple, because there were interchangeable options. Now, Android could do the same, but bloatware, cloudware, and service tries to replace the simple experience of choice - to buy something that doesn't leave you anxious about storage and battery. Those two things are huge downers that get in the way of enjoying a phone.

 

[gameaddict8]

You are absolutely correct. Dual Sim, removable storage, and a choice of battery and HTC One would take on Samsung in a underserved whitespace. Same reason that for many years PC destroyed Apple, because there were interchangeable options. Now, Android could do the same, but bloatware, cloudware, and service tries to replace the simple experience of choice - to buy something that doesn't leave you anxious about storage and battery. Those two things are huge downers that get in the way of enjoying a phone.

Yeah, but if you amp up the battery mah size and increase the storage to 64gb, most people aren't going to care, they just want it to last all day long with heavy usage.

Look at the Razr Maxx and 1X+, you won't have to worry about swapping batteries or messing with sd cards loading. I think we'll get to the point where expandability is going to be pretty rare.

 

[robsawalker]

I have three batteries for my s3. I have changed the battery once in the six months I have had them. It is nice to know you have a way of charging the phone though, especially as the s3 battery is so dismal. But, you can get a mophie battery case for the HTC one, and a battery pack. If you think recharging using the pack is a pain then the mophie is ideal. I always charge at work and in my car anyway so its not a problem for me very often.

Still, some people may prefer replaceable batteries. Regarding battery life, I believe HTC did not activate fast charge on the battery to extend the life of the battery?

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