Rezound vs. Razr Maxx?

So let's say you have to charge your Rezound battery twice as often as you charge your Maxx battery. It'll last half as long, right? But now let's say you have two Rezound batteries- you'll charge each of them only half as often. Now let's say you have three. Who wins? The fact is that the Rezound battery is replaceable, and at least right now, the Maxx costs so much more that even after buying two extra standard Rezound batteries you'd save money by going with the Rezound.

I agree that most people won't need to carry around a spare battery on their Rezound- the standard battery is good enough anyway. But it's a viable option because the battery is so small, and if you otherwise prefer the Rezound but fear the battery life, carrying a spare is a better solution than choosing another phone that you don't like as much. Or if your highest priority is battery life, again it's a more reliable long-term solution than relying on the Maxx's non-replaceable battery. I just don't see how the Maxx wins out here.

The Rezound extended battery is 2750ma. Not that much different from the Maxx's 3300ma, and since it seems like the original Razr's battery life may be worse than the Rezound's w/standard battery, despite the Razr's larger battery, I wouldn't be surprised if the extended battery Rezound gets the same or better battery life than the Maxx. Even if it's worse, again, it's replaceable.

I don't think buying a phone due to battery life is a stupid reason. I think it's ridiculous how bad the battery life in modern smartphones, especially 4g phones, is, and I'm really happy to see that the Maxx appears to be the first phone to directly address these issues. I'm hoping that the technology that allows the Maxx to have such a large battery without turning it into a giant phone will be adopted by every phone manufacturer so all batteries go up in size. But as great as the Maxx's battery is, I think it's crippled by the fact that it's non-replaceable. Two standard Rezound batteries exactly equal the Maxx's single, non-replaceable battery, but those Rezound batteries can also be replaced. Since most people keep their phones for two years or longer, if you really care most about battery life, you'll want the option to replace your battery(s).

I think if you happen to prefer the Razr design anyway, the Maxx allows you to get it without fearing too much about battery life. So get the Razr Maxx and be happy, its battery life should be good enough for a normal person for the life of the phone. But if you're just looking for whichever phone has the best battery life, phones with replaceable batteries win. So making the argument that you should get the Maxx over the GN or the Rezound just because of the battery life is a mistake, because all things considered its battery life isn't better.

Who wins? The MAXX still. The phones have only a $70 difference on Amazon right now for upgrades. So your 3 battery argument is now down to 2 (2 batteries = $60 on HTCpedia), and 2 Rezound batteries are still 80 mAh less than one RAZR MAXX battery. Plus, you're still charging each Rezound battery once/12-15 hours vs. the once every 24-28 hours for the MAXX battery (you do need the spare battery to actually have a charge for it to work, correct? If that's the case, you use one for one day, the other needs to be charged. Use that one in one day, the other has to be charged). I think you need to re-check your reasoning and then see who 'wins.'

You seem to be fine with doing a battery pull daily, and making sure you remember to carry around an extra battery with you wherever you go (in your wallet it appears...must be comfortable to sit on). But most people are not. Your argument that its a better phone because the battery can be replaced is ridiculous, simply put. It isn't like the RAZR MAXX is a completely awful phone with a great battery, which is what you're making it out to be. As I said, you don't NEED to worry about the battery in the MAXX, either daily or for the long term. MAXX users don't HAVE to worry, "Do I need my charger? Do I need to bring an extended battery?". Its obvious that's not the case with the Rezound.
Just to touch upon your claim of the extended battery vs. the MAXX battery. 550 mAh is quite a difference. Plus, what you fail to mention is the girth that is added to an already large phone via the extended battery for the REZOUND vs. the pocket-friendly size of the MAXX.

Your arguments are just circular and baseless. If its your personal opinion, fine, but to generally say "(the Rezound is) a more reliable long-term solution than relying on the Maxx's non-replaceable battery." is just crazy talk. The battery is TWICE THE SIZE of the Rezound. It will last at least TWICE AS LONG, both in short and long term. The hassle of having to pull and replace the battery constantly in the Rezound is not ideal for most people, especially if you have a cover and need to take that off as well.

It sounds to me that you're not trying to convince others that your reasoning is correct, but trying to convince yourself after you bought the Rezound.

/rant.
 
Who wins? The MAXX still. The phones have only a $70 difference on Amazon right now for upgrades. So your 3 battery argument is now down to 2 (2 batteries = $60 on HTCpedia), and 2 Rezound batteries are still 80 mAh less than one RAZR MAXX battery. Plus, you're still charging each Rezound battery once/12-15 hours vs. the once every 24-28 hours for the MAXX battery (you do need the spare battery to actually have a charge for it to work, correct? If that's the case, you use one for one day, the other needs to be charged. Use that one in one day, the other has to be charged). I think you need to re-check your reasoning and then see who 'wins.'

You seem to be fine with doing a battery pull daily, and making sure you remember to carry around an extra battery with you wherever you go (in your wallet it appears...must be comfortable to sit on). But most people are not. Your argument that its a better phone because the battery can be replaced is ridiculous, simply put. It isn't like the RAZR MAXX is a completely awful phone with a great battery, which is what you're making it out to be. As I said, you don't NEED to worry about the battery in the MAXX, either daily or for the long term. MAXX users don't HAVE to worry, "Do I need my charger? Do I need to bring an extended battery?". Its obvious that's not the case with the Rezound.
Just to touch upon your claim of the extended battery vs. the MAXX battery. 550 mAh is quite a difference. Plus, what you fail to mention is the girth that is added to an already large phone via the extended battery for the REZOUND vs. the pocket-friendly size of the MAXX.

Your arguments are just circular and baseless. If its your personal opinion, fine, but to generally say "(the Rezound is) a more reliable long-term solution than relying on the Maxx's non-replaceable battery." is just crazy talk. The battery is TWICE THE SIZE of the Rezound. It will last at least TWICE AS LONG, both in short and long term. The hassle of having to pull and replace the battery constantly in the Rezound is not ideal for most people, especially if you have a cover and need to take that off as well.

It sounds to me that you're not trying to convince others that your reasoning is correct, but trying to convince yourself after you bought the Rezound.

/rant.

I am only speaking about my personal situation here. I bought the Rezound for $50 on upgrade in November and as such, I am still within my return period. If I sold the bundled headphones, I figured I can get that money back, or close to it, making it a close to a free phone on upgrade. Since I am still within my return period, I have been looking at the phones that came out after it to see if it would be worth it for me to do a swap, but I haven't found anything that suited my needs better than the Rezound at the moment. The GN has signal issues. The Maxx has a non-removable battery, which is a deal breaker for me since I have (3) extended batteries for the Rezound that I can use for extended periods of times when I am away from a charger. The Maxx has a qHD screen, I have seen Moto qHD screens. They are more vibrant, but also more saturated than the Rezound. And the Rezound has sharper text, especially very small text.

Then, looking at price, there isn't a phone that I can get similar to the Rezound for free or close to free.

The Maxx is a great phone in it's own regard, but it just doesn't suit my needs.
 
I am only speaking about my personal situation here. I bought the Rezound for $50 on upgrade in November and as such, I am still within my return period. If I sold the bundled headphones, I figured I can get that money back, or close to it, making it a close to a free phone on upgrade. Since I am still within my return period, I have been looking at the phones that came out after it to see if it would be worth it for me to do a swap, but I haven't found anything that suited my needs better than the Rezound at the moment. The GN has signal issues. The Maxx has a non-removable battery, which is a deal breaker for me since I have (3) extended batteries for the Rezound that I can use for extended periods of times when I am away from a charger. The Maxx has a qHD screen, I have seen Moto qHD screens. They are more vibrant, but also more saturated than the Rezound. And the Rezound has sharper text, especially very small text.

Then, looking at price, there isn't a phone that I can get similar to the Rezound for free or close to free.

The Maxx is a great phone in it's own regard, but it just doesn't suit my needs.

That's cool. I have no issues with people's personal preferences. Hell, I'm still on the fence between the Rezound and the MAXX (partially having to do with the reasons you mentioned above). I just get annoyed when people try to discredit an obvious benefit of one phone just to make the alternative seem more appealing.
 
I keep my wallet in my side pocket :).

Not sure about your math... 2 x 1650 = 3300. Are my numbers wrong? Still 80ma isn't much and like I said the Rezound appears to last longer per ma.

The standard battery usually lasts a whole day. If it doesn't, I can switch batteries. Then when I get home, I can charge one battery, then another, so no need for an external charger. Yeah it's more work, but I don't mind it, and it doesn't happen often because a single standard battery usually lasts, so then I'll only charge that.

If I think I'll have a long day, I'll usually use the Rezound extended battery. Yeah, it makes a thick phone thicker, but it's all relative. The Rezound with extended battery is still thinner than my last phone, so I don't mind, and it lasts for almost two days. For someone who does mind the thickness, an alternative is to carry around a second standard battery, which is very small.

If you hate the idea of risking switching batteries, and you think the Rezound with extended battery is too thick, then the Maxx could be a great choice for battery life. But if you really want the thinnest phone out there get the original Razr. Everybody cares about what they care about.

If you use only a single standard Rezound battery, the Maxx would last twice as long before noticeably degrading. If you use two Rezound standard batteries, they'd last about equally long as a single Maxx. If you use three....

Most people who get the Rezound will only need one single standard battery. But my argument was addressed towards people who think battery life is the most important consideration. For those people, I think the Nexus or the Rezound are better options, because their batteries are replaceable. You disagree. I think I've made my reasoning clear, and it's not circular. Replaceable batteries > huge non-removable batteries.

I'm not trying to convince myself of anything- like I said in my earlier post, I hate the Razr for its screen, and if the Rezound didn't exist I'd probably have bought a Nexus or waited for a better phone. For people who like the Razr, the Maxx is a great option. I hope in the future all phones come with 4000+ma batteries, so I'm glad Motorola took this step forward. But for people who truly care most about battery life, I don't think the Maxx is the best choice, unless they're also allergic to switching batteries or carrying a thick phone.

Who wins? The MAXX still. The phones have only a $70 difference on Amazon right now for upgrades. So your 3 battery argument is now down to 2 (2 batteries = $60 on HTCpedia), and 2 Rezound batteries are still 80 mAh less than one RAZR MAXX battery. Plus, you're still charging each Rezound battery once/12-15 hours vs. the once every 24-28 hours for the MAXX battery (you do need the spare battery to actually have a charge for it to work, correct? If that's the case, you use one for one day, the other needs to be charged. Use that one in one day, the other has to be charged). I think you need to re-check your reasoning and then see who 'wins.'

You seem to be fine with doing a battery pull daily, and making sure you remember to carry around an extra battery with you wherever you go (in your wallet it appears...must be comfortable to sit on). But most people are not. Your argument that its a better phone because the battery can be replaced is ridiculous, simply put. It isn't like the RAZR MAXX is a completely awful phone with a great battery, which is what you're making it out to be. As I said, you don't NEED to worry about the battery in the MAXX, either daily or for the long term. MAXX users don't HAVE to worry, "Do I need my charger? Do I need to bring an extended battery?". Its obvious that's not the case with the Rezound.
Just to touch upon your claim of the extended battery vs. the MAXX battery. 550 mAh is quite a difference. Plus, what you fail to mention is the girth that is added to an already large phone via the extended battery for the REZOUND vs. the pocket-friendly size of the MAXX.

Your arguments are just circular and baseless. If its your personal opinion, fine, but to generally say "(the Rezound is) a more reliable long-term solution than relying on the Maxx's non-replaceable battery." is just crazy talk. The battery is TWICE THE SIZE of the Rezound. It will last at least TWICE AS LONG, both in short and long term. The hassle of having to pull and replace the battery constantly in the Rezound is not ideal for most people, especially if you have a cover and need to take that off as well.

It sounds to me that you're not trying to convince others that your reasoning is correct, but trying to convince yourself after you bought the Rezound.

/rant.
 
I keep my wallet in my side pocket :).

Not sure about your math... 2 x 1650 = 3300. Are my numbers wrong? Still 80ma isn't much and like I said the Rezound appears to last longer per ma.

Yes, they are. The stock battery is only 1620, not 1650. I was wrong as well, as its a 60mAh advantage for the MAXX, not 80.

And like I said, to each his/her own. I just took issue with your original post because you seemed to be trying to convince...someone...that a phone with a huge, non-removable, slim-factor battery is somehow not as good as a phone that has less than half the battery capacity but is removable. If that's your preference, then fine, so be it. But no need to come on here (with your first post, no less) and make a list of points (some of which were completely nonsensical) why people who choose the MAXX for battery life over the Rezound are wrong. Then, in the back-and-forth, you completely overlook the valid points I made and continued on your mission against someone choosing the MAXX over the Rezound. Do you work for HTC or something?

It's obvious that we can only agree to disagree, but in the future, just try to be a little less accusatory in your posts. If you have an opinion about something, say, "This is my reasoning." Don't go on a rant saying things like, "I still can't understand how anyone with decent vision can like the Razr screen," and post a rhetorical "I don't know why other people make this decision" type of post.
 
For those who are considering either phone...I have now had both phones and here's my experience (I don't get good reception at work with VZW, it turns out) - but:

Rezound -
  • Sense UI (which I liked)
  • Lots of bloatware
  • Battery drains VERY quickly
  • Really good 4G/Wifi connection (except, apparently, for me)
  • Heavy-ish (compared with the Razr Maxx)
  • Not very good speakers
  • Good call connection/quality

Razr Maxx -
  • Good looking phone
  • Built for a warrior! (water-proof back/scratch-resistant screen)
  • MotoBlur is a bit confusing, but you can use a launcher to change that
  • VERY good build
  • Feels a bit big (though it's almost identical in size to the Rezound)
  • NOT very good radio (I get no reception where I did with Rezound)
  • Problems connecting/holding Wifi connection
  • Similar bloatware to the Rezound (thanks, VZW)
  • Patchy phone call quality
  • AMAZING battery life

If we could just put the best of the two together, we'd have an incredible phone!

I'm returning the Razr Maxx, because I can't even make calls and people keep complaining that they can't hear me. Too bad; I kind of love how FIERCE the phone looks!
 
We'll have to agree to disagree. Anyone who reads this thread and is making a decision can evaluate the points we've both made.

My original post wasn't really saying that the Razr Maxx isn't as good as the Rezound in all respects. It was saying that it isn't as good for battery life, because I don't think most people care so much about switching batteries or having a thick phone. For people who do care about those things, the Maxx might have superior battery life, at least at first.

You never explained which of my points were nonsensical, or circular. Just said they were. I looked back at my original list of points, they all seem correct.

I don't think I overlooked any of your valid points... the only one I didn't address was how you seemed to say, though it wasn't clear, that the price difference between the two phones is only enough to buy one spare standard battery. Since the phone comes with one standard battery, for the $70 price difference you quote you could buy two spare batteries online, leaving you with a total of three batteries.

I'm not trying to shill for HTC here... I just find the idea that the reason to buy a phone with a (large) non-removable battery is battery life to be wrong, at least for most people, especially considering that it will degrade. Maybe to prove it: the Razr probably has a better CPU; clock speed is irrelevant. It's also faster to the user, both because of its better CPU and because Sense slows the Rezound down. The Razr also has some really cool accessories that simply aren't available for the Rezound. I also like that the Razr comes with its own HDMI port, rather than MHL like the Rezound- many people who end up wanting to use the HDMI on their phone will need it suddenly and unexpectedly, and won't have time to wait for an MHL adapter to come in the mail, so they won't even bother to order one. The Razr is also probably less vulnerable to damage from drops- believe it or not I have a big Otterbox case around my Rezound, making it much larger, and if I had a Razr I'm not sure if I would need a case. So I don't think the Razr is crap pure crap. I just don't buy into the battery argument, and I do hate the screen.

As for my screen rant- when I hear people praise the Razr screen, it makes me feel like the world has gone mad. Sorry if attacking the eyesight of people who like the Razr screen makes me seem harsh. And even when it comes to the screens, I can see an exception- if someone regularly needs to use the phone for long periods of time in bright sunlight, then an AMOLED screen like the Razr might be better, although I've had no problem with using my Rezound screen in the sun.

Yes, they are. The stock battery is only 1620, not 1650. I was wrong as well, as its a 60mAh advantage for the MAXX, not 80.

And like I said, to each his/her own. I just took issue with your original post because you seemed to be trying to convince...someone...that a phone with a huge, non-removable, slim-factor battery is somehow not as good as a phone that has less than half the battery capacity but is removable. If that's your preference, then fine, so be it. But no need to come on here (with your first post, no less) and make a list of points (some of which were completely nonsensical) why people who choose the MAXX for battery life over the Rezound are wrong. Then, in the back-and-forth, you completely overlook the valid points I made and continued on your mission against someone choosing the MAXX over the Rezound. Do you work for HTC or something?

It's obvious that we can only agree to disagree, but in the future, just try to be a little less accusatory in your posts. If you have an opinion about something, say, "This is my reasoning." Don't go on a rant saying things like, "I still can't understand how anyone with decent vision can like the Razr screen," and post a rhetorical "I don't know why other people make this decision" type of post.
 
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We'll have to agree to disagree. Anyone who reads this thread and is making a decision can evaluate the points we've both made.

My original post wasn't really saying that the Razr Maxx isn't as good as the Rezound in all respects. It was saying that it isn't as good for battery life, because I don't think most people care so much about switching batteries or having a thick phone. For people who do care about those things, the Maxx might have superior battery life, at least at first.

You never explained which of my points were non-nonsensical, or circular. Just said they were. I looked back at my original list of points, they all seem correct.

Your nonsense point about the Rezound battery being 'almost as powerful' as the RAZR MAXX was debunked. Your relative nonsense point about batteries degrading was made moot, as your underlying point was that the MAXX battery would degrade to have very poor life while ignoring that the much smaller Rezound battery would degrade to a worse state while the MAXX would degrade to a level equal to the Rezound battery at its peak. I pointed out the error in your reasoning with that. The circular point of your argument is that you keep saying, "Most people think that changing a battery out is better than just getting a phone with a great battery," when you are not 'most people.' So, stop arguing the point for other people. It may be your opinion, but don't make the argument like you're the king of cell phone battery land speaking for all your people.

I don't think I overlooked any of your valid points... the only one I didn't address was how you seemed to say, though it wasn't clear, that the price difference between the two phones is only enough to buy one spare standard battery. Since the phone comes with one standard battery, for the $70 price difference you quote you could buy two spare batteries online, leaving you with a total of three batteries.

So now people should buy and carry around 2 spare batteries? You must live in cargo pants. As for the valid points, you keep glancing over the points I'm making and trying to present yourself as the voice of the masses by saying most people would prefer to swap out batteries than have a phone with a great, long lasting battery. For example, you mention the buying of two spare batteries above. That's all well and good, but you still avoid my point that THEY NEED TO BE CHARGED TO BE USEFUL AS SPARES. Thus, two of them need to be charged at the same time. If you're not using the third as another emergency back-up, you would just rotate two batteries, so what's the point of the third? Constantly rotating 3 batteries is an idiotic and pointless expense, so your 'charge cycle' argument doesn't hold any water. Yes, you can buy 2 batteries and still save $10 off the price of the MAXX...but wait, you'll need an external charging port for your plan to work (can only charge one battery in the phone)...there's $25...YOU LOSE.


I'm not trying to shill for HTC here... I just find the idea that the reason to buy a phone with a (large) non-removable battery is battery life to be wrong, at least for most people, especially considering that it will degrade. Maybe to prove it: the Razr probably has a better CPU; clock speed is irrelevant. It's also faster to the user, both because of its better CPU and because Sense slows the Rezound down. The Razr also has some really cool accessories that simply aren't available for the Rezound. I also like that the Razr comes with its own HDMI port, rather than MHL like the Rezound- many people who end up wanting to use the HDMI on their phone will need it suddenly and unexpectedly, and won't have time to wait for an MHL adapter to come in the mail, so they won't even bother to order one. The Razr is also probably less vulnerable to damage from drops- believe it or not I have a big Otterbox case around my Rezound, making it much larger, and if I had a Razr I'm not sure if I would need a case. So I don't think the Razr is crap pure crap. I just don't buy into the battery argument, and I do hate the screen. (As for my screen rant- when I hear people praise the Razr screen, it makes me feel like the world has gone mad. Sorry if attacking the eyesight of people who like the Razr screen makes me seem harsh.)

Again, if you want to present your opinion, fine, but using the 'most people' tag just makes it seem like you're trying to be a representative of the masses, when you are not.
 
Hmmm this thread is interesting.. But if I had to make a choice and sense im coming from an unbiased position seeing as how im a nexus owner id have to go with the Razr Maxx.. Oh how Id love to have a battery that would last all day and not look hideous like those extended batteries do.. Plus I dont like to carry around multiple batteries... I also like the look of the razr and hear it is blazing fast as a phone..
 
Okay, now I know what you're referring to, so I can go through these points.

* "almost as powerful". The Rezound's extended battery is almost as powerful as the Maxx- the Maxx's battery has 20% more capacity. And since the Rezound appears to last longer per ma (at least from what people seem to be saying online, because I've never had the Razr), it's possible that the Rezound on the extended battery will last as long or even longer than the Maxx. I'd like to see this tested. Even if the extended battery Rezound does have a shorter battery life than the Maxx, the difference is likely to be small. And yes, the extended battery on the Rezound makes the phone very thick, so some people might not like that. I'm not saying the Maxx isn't for anyone.

* degredation: It's not moot. My last phone's battery had perhaps a third (by my guess) of its original life by the time it was about 20 months old. Yes, a single Maxx battery will degrade a lot slower than a single standard Rezound battery. But users aren't stuck with a single standard Rezound battery, or even with two. That's what the third battery is for- not for carrying around, but for replacing whichever battery is weaker 12+ months in the future. And yes, even after degradation, the Maxx will probably have good enough battery life in the future, because it's starting from such a high peak- but it still won't have as good battery life as a phone that can have at least one brand new battery and one semi-degraded spare. Or just use a new extended battery 12 months in, because at least when I got it, the extended battery only cost $30+tax at the Verizon store.

* most people: I'm not speaking for most people. I'm speaking for most people who place battery life above and beyond all other priorities. And I'm not one of them! Some people might prefer to have the latest version of Android. Some people might want an AMOLED screen, or the Rezound screen (me), or Beats, or a kevlar back, or not having to switch batteries, or having the thinnest phone possible, or keeping their phone for longer than two years. But I think that if someone cares about battery life more than anything else, they shouldn't choose a phone with a nonremovable battery, and if they do, they've either made an error in logic or their priority isn't really battery life- it's having a thin phone or not needing to replace their battery, or they plan to quickly replace their phone. Since I don't think most people care that much about thickness or switching batteries (though I could be wrong, and haven't done a survey), and don't want to replace their phone every year, for most people who care strongly about battery life the Maxx isn't the best choice. And no, I'm not speaking for "my people", because I don't care that much about battery life- I wouldn't care if the Razr Maxx came with a vacuum energy generator that produced free energy for all eternity, I still wouldn't buy it because of its screen. (Well, maybe to sell the vacuum energy generator.)

* carry two spare batteries: The third battery is for after the other two degrade, and can replace whichever is weaker. Since it's likely that a typical user won't actually be switching the batteries often, one of the original two batteries should die first. The third battery becomes the primary, and the old secondary can remain the secondary. Or, if you don't mind thickness, you can buy two extended batteries at the Verizon store for $30 each, and not bother to carry a spare with you. After twelve months, you can replace one extended with the second bought a year earlier. Still cheaper than the Maxx and I'd bet that at 24 months it would have better battery life, without ever using the original standard battery, which can always be switched in if the second extended battery has severely degraded.

Anything else I haven't been clear about? If someone cares strongly about long battery life, but also doesn't want a thick phone or to carry a spare battery, the Maxx is a great choice. If someone cares strongly about long battery life, and doesn't intend to keep their phone for longer than about 12-18months, the Maxx is a great choice.

Your nonsense point about the Rezound battery being 'almost as powerful' as the RAZR MAXX was debunked. Your relative nonsense point about batteries degrading was made moot, as your underlying point was that the MAXX battery would degrade to have very poor life while ignoring that the much smaller Rezound battery would degrade to a worse state while the MAXX would degrade to a level equal to the Rezound battery at its peak. I pointed out the error in your reasoning with that. The circular point of your argument is that you keep saying, "Most people think that changing a battery out is better than just getting a phone with a great battery," when you are not 'most people.' So, stop arguing the point for other people. It may be your opinion, but don't make the argument like you're the king of cell phone battery land speaking for all your people.



So now people should buy and carry around 2 spare batteries? You must live in cargo pants. As for the valid points, you keep glancing over the points I'm making and trying to present yourself as the voice of the masses by saying most people would prefer to swap out batteries than have a phone with a great, long lasting battery. For example, you mention the buying of two spare batteries above. That's all well and good, but you still avoid my point that THEY NEED TO BE CHARGED TO BE USEFUL AS SPARES. Thus, two of them need to be charged at the same time. If you're not using the third as another emergency back-up, you would just rotate two batteries, so what's the point of the third? Constantly rotating 3 batteries is an idiotic and pointless expense, so your 'charge cycle' argument doesn't hold any water. Yes, you can buy 2 batteries and still save $10 off the price of the MAXX...but wait, you'll need an external charging port for your plan to work (can only charge one battery in the phone)...there's $25...YOU LOSE.




Again, if you want to present your opinion, fine, but using the 'most people' tag just makes it seem like you're trying to be a representative of the masses, when you are not.
 
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* most people: I'm not speaking for most people. I'm speaking for most people who place battery life above and beyond all other priorities.

Re-read that statement above, and tell me how ridiculous it is.

"I wasn't speeding, officer. I was speeding just down this specific road."
 
My original post was in response to the suggestion that battery life was a big plus in favor of the Maxx over the Rezound. My argument was essentially: "Even for those who care most about battery life, the Maxx does not have an advantage over phones with removable batteries, for these reasons..." And by "most people", I essentially meant this: I think most people will either be okay with using the Rezound extended battery or carrying a spare standard battery (the standard battery is very small), and that most people don't plan to replace their phone in less than a year and a half. For people who either plan to replace their phone early, or object to both the extended battery and carrying a spare, the Maxx will have better battery life. But I think that group is a minority, though I haven't polled this question and have no way of knowing for sure, so you're free to disagree with me on this.

Edit: And once you start talking about issues aside from battery life, other things do become relevant. First, I think my suggestions of carrying a spare battery or using the extended battery aren't necessary for some or many people, because the Rezound gets good enough battery life on a standard battery to last me a whole day. Second, I think the shape and feel of the Rezound, even with the extended battery, is better than the Razr, which is wider and more angular (although I haven't held the Maxx), so for me, the shape and size isn't a drawback but a plus.
 
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After seeing ics on razr it is kick azz. It even puts the nexus to shame. And what's nice about moto there radios and os upgrades. Since there phones don't have that bloat like sense and touch wiz its easer to upgrade. And yes razr is rooted and romed. Even before it was released.

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