S22 Ultra or not SD Card?

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I would like to get an S22 Note Ultra keeping my S20 Note Ultra,if no SD card I will pause & wait for Camera reviews to decide, I need at least 512GB without an SD card,I would like to see what the Sony Xperia 1 IV will be like in 2022,this phone has the SD card still,when you take videos in 4K it takes lots of a storage space. I'm not sure why Samsung would take away one of its biggest advantages over Apple phones among others.
 

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The SD slot is gone forever from Samsung's high-end phones. Those phones need reliable fast access to storage, which is hard to assure with third-party cards. And they're presumed to have access to fast 5G bandwidth and cloud storage, making on-board capacity less important. You can plug in a flash drive for backups too.
 

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Yeah cloud storage seems to be the way to go in today's world. Physical SD cards can fail. When they do, that's often it for anything stored on it.
 

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The SD slot is gone forever from Samsung's high-end phones. Those phones need reliable fast access to storage, which is hard to assure with third-party cards. And they're presumed to have access to fast 5G bandwidth and cloud storage, making on-board capacity less important. You can plug in a flash drive for backups too.

Do the flash drives plug in to charger slot?
 

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Yeah cloud storage seems to be the way to go in today's world. Physical SD cards can fail. When they do, that's often it for anything stored on it.

My micro SD I got when I bought my Note 20 hasn't failed. Cloud is not practical for over 1TB of data. Cloud is good when backing up local storage. Samsung screwed up again.
 

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Would have been interesting had Samsungs UFS cards been adopted, the technology went no where unfortunately as OEMs elected to drop expandable storage instead of improve upon it.
 

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I have many SD cards and use them to film 4k video constantly with my drones and I've never had one fail. They put SD card slots in the Tablets, why not the phones... If they where unreliable a lot of stuff like GoPro cameras wouldn't use them.
 

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I would like to get an S22 Note Ultra keeping my S20 Note Ultra,if no SD card I will pause & wait for Camera reviews to decide, I need at least 512GB without an SD card,I would like to see what the Sony Xperia 1 IV will be like in 2022,this phone has the SD card still,when you take videos in 4K it takes lots of a storage space. I'm not sure why Samsung would take away one of its biggest advantages over Apple phones among others.


Just to be certain, none of the new Samsung Ultra smartphones will include a removeable micro-SD memory card? If so, that sucks. I've always had micro-SD cards on all my Samsung phones dating back to the Note 2.
 

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Just to be certain, none of the new Samsung Ultra smartphones will include a removeable micro-SD memory card? If so, that sucks. I've always had micro-SD cards on all my Samsung phones dating back to the Note 2.

Nope, no SD card on the phones but the Tablets still have them. It seems like a cash grab to force you to buy a higher model but who knows. I just used to buy the lowest storage model to save money and reuse the same SD card. So much for saving the planet by reusing stuff. Since I have a PC with 23 terrabytes of storage (I do a lot of 4k filming and video editing) a 512GB phone does me well and I just move my pictures and videos over to my PC to maintain room for more pics and videos on the phone. I normally have about 30GB of downloaded offline music from Youtube Music. Now that wireless buds are starting to sound as good as wired I lost my care for a headphone jack finally though.
 

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I have many SD cards and use them to film 4k video constantly with my drones and I've never had one fail. They put SD card slots in the Tablets, why not the phones... If they where unreliable a lot of stuff like GoPro cameras wouldn't use them.
Smartphones are different beasts compared to drones, gopros and dedicated cameras. Lots more AI and processing going on with smartphones that having third party storage inconsistencies will just cause more issues. Tablets are not used daily like smartphones and they're camera tech is not the same.
 

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Smartphones are different beasts compared to drones, gopros and dedicated cameras. Lots more AI and processing going on with smartphones that having third party storage inconsistencies will just cause more issues. Tablets are not used daily like smartphones and they're camera tech is not the same.

Can you cite any data that shows that SD cards caused issues with smartphones? I used them for years in phones and never had a problem. You would think data writing is data writing and a drone or GoPro continuously writing 4k video @ 100Mbits would be putting more strain than saving and loading an occasional file on your phone and storing them. AI processing is done mainly through the main processor and then RAM. I don't think AI processing has any meaning over the storage side of things which is the purpose of a SD card. You don't think a phone uses a SD card as RAM, do you?
 

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Can you cite any data that shows that SD cards caused issues with smartphones? I used them for years in phones and never had a problem. You would think data writing is data writing and a drone or GoPro continuously writing 4k video @ 100Mbits would be putting more strain than saving and loading an occasional file on your phone and storing them. AI processing is done mainly through the main processor and then RAM. I don't think AI processing has any meaning over the storage side of things which is the purpose of a SD card. You don't think a phone uses a SD card as RAM, do you?

If a manufacturer can control user experience by making everything consistent then why deal with 3rd party manufacturers messing with that experience. If a SD card gets corrupted, which has happened to me a couple of times, then who do you think the customer is going to blame? Not the SD card manufacturer. So to have the main processor and RAM only process data to and from one storage device makes more sense for a manufacturer to control. Smartphones are more involved in people's everyday lives vs other devices.
 
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Nope, no SD card on the phones but the Tablets still have them. It seems like a cash grab to force you to buy a higher model but who knows. I just used to buy the lowest storage model to save money and reuse the same SD card. So much for saving the planet by reusing stuff. Since I have a PC with 23 terrabytes of storage (I do a lot of 4k filming and video editing) a 512GB phone does me well and I just move my pictures and videos over to my PC to maintain room for more pics and videos on the phone. I normally have about 30GB of downloaded offline music from Youtube Music. Now that wireless buds are starting to sound as good as wired I lost my care for a headphone jack finally though.

Thanks for the confirmation of no memory card feature on the new models. In that case, I'm in no rush to buy a new phone, haha!
 

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There is such a thing as a bad SD card. This guy on another forum tried to imply it was me "buying cheap or fake cards". Lol. I was told it was "highly unlikely" it was the cards. I told him, "Well it's HIGHLY UNLIKELY Samsung is bringing back the SD card slot, but if you can trust your guess that it will happen, then trust my experience with SD cards"

That ended that.

I've used a lot of SD cards in the past...and had two fail. One was a Kingston and the other a SanDisk. I didn't buy them at the Dollar Store, nor Amazon.

User error is probably the main cause of SD card corruption. But I know how to format an SD card...and I still had bad experiences with TWO.