S4 has horrible Pentile Matrix Display

[So Cold]

Well then what is all this s4 pentile display suck talk? Ignorant bliss? Lmao!

chris2k5 is an instigator and likes to state opinions as fact.

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[Johnly]

Kevin and droidxcon bring good info to the table, though I think kevin is just a tinge bias to HTC and that is probably my bias to Samsung talking. Lol!

 

[DroidXcon]

Here's a video comparison and in depth detail about the S4's screen"

Galaxy S 4 In-Depth First Impressions *Samsung Unpacked 2013* - YouTube

Diamond pentile matrix that you'll hardly be able to tell is pentile.

Erica always does an amazing job, BIG fan.

 

[NotJustAPhone]

chris2k5 is an instigator and likes to state opinions as fact.

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Calling out another member is instigating too. There's no need for anyone here to be doing that.

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[Johnly]

Erica always does an amazing job, BIG fan.

Good video. I wonder if the black clipping is an attempt to rid the light leaking blobs that affect some amoled screens?

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Erica always does an amazing job, BIG fan.

Good video. I wonder if the black clipping is an attempt to rid the light leaking blobs that affect some amoled screens?

 

[So Cold]

Erica always does an amazing job, BIG fan.

+1, I found her gorilla glass video first and have been a subscriber since

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[DroidXcon]

Good video. I wonder if the black clipping is an attempt to rid the light leaking blobs that affect some amoled screens?

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Good video. I wonder if the black clipping is an attempt to rid the light leaking blobs that affect some amoled screens?

It could be alot of things, it could be as simple as power savings setup on the phone, or it could be at a material level.

To give you history , OLED's are super efficient so it doesnt take much power to activate the pixels. For example on Early feature phones in Japan that were using OLED technology they had a problem that when the phone was off the screen would glow red, this was because it was activated by the battery power that was being leaked from the battery. This was eventually fixed by different layers in the OLED device called blocking layers. Here is a very basic OLED structure

With these layers we can tweak at what point the pixel will activate given a particular supply. This is called an S curve, at low voltages there is no emission then as the voltage increases the pixel emitts, making a S type shape on a plotting chart. So their S curve will depend on the structure of the materials used for the OLED , which unfortunatley i am not privy to since they use other venders for Host,Blocking and injection layers. I doubt it is an S curve limitation but its possible.

Like you said it maybe their attempt to reduce leaking or it could just be the way the display settings are but i am in the dark about what the cause is as anyone else

 

[So Cold]

chris2k5 is an instigator and likes to state opinions as fact.

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Calling out another member is instigating too. There's no need for anyone here to be doing that.

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My apologies, what I should have said was the pentile display was kind of a weak point for the s3 so when people see the s4 will have a pentile display they want to jump on it and worry. Luckily this display looks like it will be much improved.

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[Jerry Hildenbrand]

I'm sitting here reading this on the HTC One's LCD. It's freaking gorgeous, and Samsung will have to work hard to deliver something comparable.

And I'm sure they will. Samsung knows display technology. They will deliver.

#WeAllWin

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[universeand]

well see you guys on the htc one forums.

Good luck with the heat and non-replaceable battery.

 

[freality]

Let's hope this black clipping business is at the software level and not material. As an ISF-certified home theater who-gives-a-sh!t guy (impressed?), I'm a sucker for the inky-black, high-contrast Super AMOLED panels (and highly saturated colors are no worries if they're still relatively accurate against primary and secondary gamuts of your choice and/or tweakable via 3rd party apps)...seriously, those great contrast ratios can do wonders for 3Dness (without the awful actual 3D...). But crush my blacks and deny me some shadow detail and you're DEAD to me!! And thus concludes my first official drunken Android Central post! Yay! You're welcome and I accept your apologies!

 

[nolittdroid]

....did the s4 come out already? Did I miss something?

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[freality]

....did the s4 come out already? Did I miss something?

Umm...the S4 is crusty old news...we're talking about the S5, son! I expected a little more from you, nolittdroid.

 

[TheOnlyMorgan]

Yes it did:

And how close did you have to put your eyes to the screen, or how much did you have to magnify each image to see the pixels? I think people just look for negatives..I mean..really look hard for negatives. With microscopes and magnifying glasses.

 

[I Can Be Your Hero]

I think the comments from both sides are pretty extremist.

I had an S3 and I personally did find text in particular have a certain 'grain' to them and weren't as crisp as text on the iPhone 5 or HTC One X. Not sure if that was due to pentile or not.

At the resolution the S4 has, I don't think grain should be an issue. However, sunlight visibility, web browsing battery life and colour accuracy are important to me, which are areas I feel that LCD excel over AMOLED.

 

[MikeLip]

*I* think the entire issue is the granularity of the human eye. The displays are so good on all these phones that the individual retinal cells can no longer resolve them and the archaic software in the human brain simply pixelates it in self defense. Too much information! screams your visual cortex, while down in engineering, Scotty is shouting in his best Scottish accent, Captain! Me eyeballs canna take much more o' this! Clearly we all need neuronic upgrades. When does version 1.2 come out?

 

[Dreamliner330]

PenTile sucks, plain and simple. I upgraded from a RAZR HD (4.7" 720 PenTile AMOLED) to a Note 2 (5.5" 720 RGB AMOLED) and it looks amazingly better. Even with a lower PPI it looks night and day better.

So, PenTile sucks....and so does the screen blobs on every AMOLED panel.

 

[msavic6]

Oh No, there's a variation of a pentile matrix on the galaxy s4. What ever shall I do?

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[So Cold]

PenTile sucks, plain and simple. I upgraded from a RAZR HD (4.7" 720 PenTile AMOLED) to a Note 2 (5.5" 720 RGB AMOLED) and it looks amazingly better. Even with a lower PPI it looks night and day better.

So, PenTile sucks....and so does the screen blobs on every AMOLED panel.

I would reserve judgement until you actually see it instead of using that logic. Also read the entire thread and see why this display is unique

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[xlDeMoNiClx]

PenTile sucks, plain and simple. I upgraded from a RAZR HD (4.7" 720 PenTile AMOLED) to a Note 2 (5.5" 720 RGB AMOLED) and it looks amazingly better. Even with a lower PPI it looks night and day better.

So, PenTile sucks....and so does the screen blobs on every AMOLED panel.

Jerry seems to disagree with you in his hands-on article. And many people love how the S3 screen looks, and I think the S4 screen looks great too and so do many others I'm sure. In reality, not so plain and simple afterall.