Samsung Galaxy Note 4 on Verizon - Preorders, shipping and arrivals

[iSpark]

Re: Verizon Edge Policy Change - Note 4 now better deal?

I know this thread is about Verizon's Edge, but AT&T's NEXT program is why I left Verizon and some other underhanded reasons.
After I make two regular monthly "NEXT" payments I can payoff the balance at anytime. I need to find out if I can "add" a little money to the installment amount each month if I want to.

How AT&T Next works
Choose one of our latest smartphones and select AT&T Next 12 or 18 as your smartphone installment agreement term.1 During check out, we'll display the low installment charge that will be added to your bill each month. Installment charges are determined by the full retail price of the smartphone divided by 20 monthly payments (AT&T Next 12) or 24 monthly payments (AT&T Next 18).
At the time of purchase, you pay sales tax on the full retail price of the smartphone. The first monthly smartphone installment charge will be added to your next bill.
Once you've paid the balance of 12 (AT&T Next 12) or 18 (AT&T Next 18) installment payments, you can trade-in your eligible smartphone and upgrade to a new AT&T Next smartphone! You can pay this balance anytime after you've been billed for and paid your first two monthly installments. You can also pay off your full installment balance at any time. See trade-in details below for more information.

 

[wgragg]

Re: Verizon Edge Policy Change - Note 4 now better deal?

You can't make larger payments. You can only do a one time down payment when you initially sign up for Edge

Completely opposite what I was told by 2 different VZW store people, a phone CSR rep, 2 online chat reps and BB. They said I cannot make a down payment unless required to do so and that I can make extra payments.

 

[wgragg]

Re: Verizon Edge Policy Change - Note 4 now better deal?

Well, apparently VZW needs to do some better training of their reps!

 

[91DBrown]

Re: Verizon Note 4 shipping status....

So did I but if you bought ones with problems it will still be easier to return them unopened.

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[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

Re: Verizon Note 4 shipping status....

I've called the Corporate Verizon Store for the past three consecutive days and talked to three different customer service reps. They all say the same thing. They will have limited stock but cannot confirm its availability. I am going to the Verizon Store first thing tomorrow a.m. and will be hopefully posting pics of the beauty by 11 a.m. 'ish

You will know when Verizon sells all the note 4 phones they have available, right now the ship by date is 10/23/2014. When that changes online is when the limited stock available now is gone.

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[sulla1965]

Re: Verizon Edge Policy Change - Note 4 now better deal?

Completely opposite what I was told by 2 different VZW store people, a phone CSR rep, 2 online chat reps and BB. They said I cannot make a down payment unless required to do so and that I can make extra payments.

I

I've edged up twice already, each time I was given an optional "one time" down payment to reduce the monthly payments.

 

[ansa82]

Re: Verizon Edge Policy Change - Note 4 now better deal?

So Verizon very quietly just changed their Edge program. Doing the math, if you plan to keep your phone for 2 years, it is a great deal. The downside is, edging up is pretty much not an option anymore, or rather, not really worth it.
Here's the new "deal". No longer 20 payments, its back to 24. Now you have to pay off 75% of the phone before you can edge.
So the Note 4 is $29.14 for 24 months, if you have a 10 gb plan (don't judge me for losing my unlimited), you are only paying $4.19/mo or $100 over the life. Factor in your $200 Samsung trade in, and they are paying you $100 for the phone.
I am torn whether or not I am happy about this. On one hand, I am saving money in the long run. On the other hand, now you have to go 18 months just to edge, only 2 months earlier than last weeks fully pd off phone.
Thanks VZ for making me wait all this time w/ my plan completely set, now I have to start all over and reevaluate which way I am going to go.

$29.14/month?? I called yesterday to pre order and was told $34.99/month??

 

[ansa82]

Re: Verizon Edge Policy Change - Note 4 now better deal?

Yes, you're paying less money monthly but I don't see it as a better deal cause you have to pay more in order to edge up. So either you wait for 18 months (not gonna happen for me) or you edge up early but still have to pay whatever you still have outstanding in order to reach the 75%. I'm not happy! But luckily, I pre-ordered the N4 and signed the Edge agreement before this new Edge plan came into effect. I don't have to worry about it until I want to edge up to the Note 5 next yr

So of I'm already in edge & not a new Edge customer my Edge plan stays the same? ?

 

[ejcrossl]

Re: Verizon Edge Policy Change - Note 4 now better deal?

If you're on a 10GB plan, you can put down $100 as your down payment at time of purchase and it'll bring your monthly cost down to $25. So with the $25 discount you essentially payed only $100 for the phone and can upgrade in 18 months versus $299 + $30 upgrade fee to upgrade in 24 months again.

It still works out on the lower price plans with the $15 discount. You out $100 down and essentially pay an extra $10 a month. After 18 months you have now paid $280 for $330.


I actually am starting to like the new EDGE pricing. Cost wise, it's so much better than buying most phones on a two year agreement. But it also defeats the main purpose of EDGE initially, which was to get a new phone a whole lot more frequent.


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Under the old plan, w/ the $25 discount, it would cost you $120 over 12 months. You could essentially turn it in and get the newest phone. Your out $125 of rental. Now if you want the newest phone in 12 months, you are in for $4.19*12+$29.14*6= $225. So the "edge" part of the deal is much worse now.

 

[Honey_184]

Re: Verizon Edge Policy Change - Note 4 now better deal?

So of I'm already in edge & not a new Edge customer my Edge plan stays the same? ?

Yes it stays the same, it'll only effect those that have signed new Edge agreements from today forward. Thankfully, I signed mine on 10/7 so I don't have to worry about it yet either.

 

[ejcrossl]

Re: Verizon Edge Policy Change - Note 4 now better deal?

$29.14/month?? I called yesterday to pre order and was told $34.99/month??

Did you sign your edge agreement on the preorder? If so, you probably got it. If not, check the price on their website now.

 

[ejcrossl]

Re: Verizon Edge Policy Change - Note 4 now better deal?

So of I'm already in edge & not a new Edge customer my Edge plan stays the same? ?

But as soon as you go for a new phone, you will enter into their new plan for that phone.

 

[GaryK2]

Re: Verizon Note 4 shipping status....

My Verizon shipping status is........................ZERO! :'(

I've checked it a few hundred times already.

Only another 7 days to go for us loyal Verizon customers.

When I go to My Verizon, I do not see any reference to my Pre Order. Where do you see the status??
I have an email from Verizon with an order status link. It shows I ordered it 9/24 and has the following comment:
Your order is processing. Your shipping details will be available soon.

Am I doing something wrong?

 

[nugj]

Re: Verizon Edge Policy Change - Note 4 now better deal?

I know that this is heresy especially here and I also know that many users here are absolutely dedicated to getting into the newest iteration of a phone as quickly as they can.

But isn't the downside to any Edge formula that you are going to end up paying a heck of a lot more for your phone than if you just took their two year contract and accepted the risk of an early withdrawal cost if you opt out early. For folks thinking in terms of eighteen months, at that point you are six months away from the end of what would be your two year contract. At least the last time I looked, the money dif between two year contract and Edge was not insignificant. Every month you are under your contract you reduce the penalty for early withdrawal so the early withdrawal penalty for being under contract is less of an issue as each month passes.

I think Edge does speak to the parts of the audience that want what they think is complete freedom but is really only another version of less than complete freedom and it does get you to a point where you can upgrade without penalty earlier but there is a cost for that which is not (again last I looked) not insignificant. If I am wrong I can totally accept that but I think the raw cost is greater under any of the Edge formulas when compared to contract.

 

[mrsmoore78]

Re: Verizon Note 4 shipping status....

I have nothing of value to add except to say that I, too, am SO JEALOUS of all of these other peeps who have their N4's already. I'm still using this piece o' crap iPhone 5 that freezes every time I try to do anything on it and the only thing I've used Safari for all day is to check my shipping status.

LOL.

 

[ejcrossl]

Re: Verizon Edge Policy Change - Note 4 now better deal?

I know that this is heresy especially here and I also know that many users here are absolutely dedicated to getting into the newest iteration of a phone as quickly as they can.

But isn't the downside to any Edge formula that you are going to end up paying a heck of a lot more for your phone than if you just took their two year contract and accepted the risk of an early withdrawal cost if you opt out early. For folks thinking in terms of eighteen months, at that point you are six months away from the end of what would be your two year contract. At least the last time I looked, the money dif between two year contract and Edge was not insignificant. Every month you are under your contract you reduce the penalty for early withdrawal so the early withdrawal penalty for being under contract is less of an issue as each month passes.

I think Edge does speak to the parts of the audience that want what they think is complete freedom but is really only another version of less than complete freedom and it does get you to a point where you can upgrade without penalty earlier but there is a cost for that which is not (again last I looked) not insignificant. If I am wrong I can totally accept that but I think the raw cost is greater under any of the Edge formulas when compared to contract.

It all depends on what you plan to do or want to do. If you look at the basic comparison, $300 for a 2 year contract or doing edge for 24 months, the edge contract wins if you are on a 10 GB plan. You pay $100 over 24 months to own the phone outright.

Edit: I forgot about taxes and activation. For simplicity, in AZ we are close to 10% tax. So you pay $30 tax and $35 activation fee on the 2 year contract price. On edge you pay $70 taxes. Add $5 more total cost on edge.

 

[sulla1965]

Re: Verizon Note 4 shipping status....

When I go to My Verizon, I do not see any reference to my Pre Order. Where do you see the status??
I have an email from Verizon with an order status link. It shows I ordered it 9/24 and has the following comment:
Your order is processing. Your shipping details will be available soon.

Am I doing something wrong?

No that's the message we all get. That's because the shipping date is 10/23. When its the 21st, then start checking for any status update. Ohterwise you'll just keep seeing Your order is processing. Your shipping details will be available soon.

 

[Almeuit]

Re: Verizon Edge Policy Change - Note 4 now better deal?

But as soon as you go for a new phone, you will enter into their new plan for that phone.

This is true. If you were on EDGE before this .. You're held to the old terms you signed for ... But once upgrading (or if you "EDGE UP") you will have to sign the new terms of 75%.

 

[nugj]

Re: Verizon Edge Policy Change - Note 4 now better deal?

"It all depends on what you plan to do or want to do. If you look at the basic comparison, $300 for a 2 year contract or doing edge for 24 months, the edge contract wins if you are on a 10 GB plan. You pay $100 over 24 months to own the phone outright.

Edit: I forgot about taxes and activation. For simplicity, in AZ we are close to 10% tax. So you pay $30 tax and $35 activation fee on the 2 year contract price. On edge you pay $70 taxes. Add $5 more total cost on edge. "

Thanks for that ...I really appreciate it. I thought it might be bound up in the commitment to bandwidth part of things. My problem is that I simply used very little with the iPhone 4 that I am coming out of and just do not have a way to accurately understand how much is going to be right for me. I am not a big movie download kind of guy and that is the kind of stuff that really sucks down bandwidth. I don't think the N4 is going to change that for me. I don't care how bored I might be, watching much video for too long on a phablet screen does not make much sense at least not to me. That said, just a few movies a month and you are going to be bumping the limits pretty quick. But it almost seems like if you are not doing that, you
would have be doing just about anything else with your phone 24/7 to really need a ton of bandwidth.

Is there any way you guys that are much more experienced than I have to try get a handle on what kinds of usage besides streaming video will get you needing something like a 10 GB plan? and thanks again ej!

 

[Rmedy21]

Re: Verizon Edge Policy Change - Note 4 now better deal?

If I'm not mistaken if any carrier changes the agreement of the contract you have within 30 days to cancel the contract.

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