My problem with the whole verizon thing is they say the phone will be released on the 23rd. I argued with the salesman over the phone about shipping it on the 22nd overnight meaning I wont get it until the 23rd when it is released. Nope. No such luck. I was told they will ship it on the 23rd for delivery on the 24th which sucks. When I asked why the delay in getting it, since everyone else had it since the 17th, they said they ran out of stock. Which goes to show you that the verizon reps are to stupid to even realize when they are lying to you. I guess the same will be true when Lollipop drops and still hasn't been pushed to the Note 4 until June of next year. I think this will be my last Verizon phone. I'm tired of being the last one picked.