Question samsung - no sd card - size - run out

[towngirl]

The newer samsungs do not take sd cards.

most of the new phones seem about 256GB

What happens of you run out of space?

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[gomezz]

You will never (legally) fill the storage with songs, pics, vids, etc..

Any idea how much recorded music there is in the world?

 

[Sizzers]

Well if you run out of storage there are three options or one outcome.

a) The Cloud, and thinking of which and as you like your music I would recommend....

b) A flash drive

c) A 512 gig phone, but reading through this at some point you'll probably run out of that too.

d) Or....You're s*****d!!

 

[SyCoREAPER]

Any idea how much recorded music there is in the world?

Did you intentionally only read the words in my statement selectively to make that statement?

Let me dumb it down for you because you are irritating me.

Legally = Purchase
256GB = 256,000MB
320kbps ≈ 5MB
Songs - 256,000÷5= 51,200 Songs (using 1000, not 1024)
51,200 Songs at ~ 0.99¢ = $53,248 (including average tax 4%)

Forget $ vs € vs £. Now tell me, what idiot spends even half that or even a quarter in music purchases of mp3s of all things?

 

[SyCoREAPER]

Well if you run out of storage there are three options or one outcome.

a) The Cloud, and thinking of which and as you like your music I would recommend....

b) A flash drive

c) A 512 gig phone, but reading through this at some point you'll probably run out of that too.

d) Or....You're s*****d!!

If one is going to pay for cloud storage for music, you might as well just stop buying music and stream it. You'll be using data anyway and for the monthly costs of cloud storage plus buying music, you might as well stream and listen to whatever you want.
Use the phone storage for pictures and videos. Googles included storage for photos should last a long time. It took forever to even get close in (only counting pictures) pictures to reach 15GB.

At a certain point once becomes a hoarder and better practices need to take place like offloading to a PC or external drive. Put a few movies on your phone and swap them.

 

[gomezz]

Did you intentionally only read the words in my statement selectively to make that statement?

Let me dumb it down for you because you are irritating me.

Legally = Purchase
256GB = 256,000MB
320kbps ≈ 5MB
Songs - 256,000÷5= 51,200 Songs (using 1000, not 1024)
51,200 Songs at ~ 0.99¢ = $53,248 (including average tax 4%)

Forget $ vs € vs £. Now tell me, what idiot spends even half that or even a quarter in music purchases of mp3s of all things?

Mmm! You are way overy-paying for your music. Divide it by 1000 to get nearer the mark of $500 dollars for a music collection acquired over fifty odd years.

 

[towngirl]

If one is going to pay for cloud storage for music, you might as well just stop buying music and stream it. You'll be using data anyway and for the monthly costs of cloud storage plus buying music, you might as well stream and listen to whatever you want.
Use the phone storage for pictures and videos. Googles included storage for photos should last a long time. It took forever to even get close in (only counting pictures) pictures to reach 15GB.

At a certain point once becomes a hoarder and better practices need to take place like offloading to a PC or external drive. Put a few movies on your phone and swap them.

I wouldn't pay.

I also don't think the cloud or whatever it is, holds my music unless I scale down, big time.

I don't have steam music.. not that I pay for.


Times change. Can't burn my cd and put it on phone. Can't burn and keep in computer.

Getting auld.

Just won't do music on my phone any more

 

[edubfromktown]

The best deal on higher capacity internal storage is when it is offered as a "free upgrade" during pre-order of new model releases.

I'm using 179 GB on my 512 GB S25u with oodles of music stored locally. Also using 8 GB of the free Google Cloud 17 GB. I don't backup photos, videos, etc. there so the actual device backup is 110MB of data. The remainder of cloud data is a smattering of docs and photos that I access when not at home.

I backup all data on the device to an SD card periodically using Smart Switch.

 

[SyCoREAPER]

The best deal on higher capacity internal storage is when it is offered as a "free upgrade" during pre-order of new model releases.

I'm using 179 GB on my 512 GB S25u with oodles of music stored locally. Also using 8 GB of the free Google Cloud 17 GB. I don't backup photos, videos, etc. there so the actual device backup is 110MB of data. The remainder of cloud data is a smattering of docs and photos that I access when not at home.

I backup all data on the device to an SD card periodically using Smart Switch.

OP is opposed to every alternative we've thrown at her. She needs to buy a higher capacity phone and practice better storage habits.

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[Golfdriver97]

I would say this: It may be time to reevaluate what is on your phone versus what you really need on your phone. I have about 16 GB of music in my entire library. I only carry my favorite songs on my phone (1.3 GB), which cuts the storage requirements down drasitcally.

 

[towngirl]

OP is opposed to every alternative we've thrown at her. She needs to buy a higher capacity phone and practice better storage habits.

/thread

LOL
I have tons of room on current 10+
I don't like to be forced into this.
I don't like to be forced to pay for a phone with higher storage when an SD card is so cheap.

But this phone is getting old and I will have to get something to replace it.

I don't use Spotify.. I use my own stuff. I don't even know if you can play mp3s on a new phone. No one seems to use it, any more.

I don't mind choices .. I don't like to be forced into it. Which is what Apple did and I stayed away ... now android is doing the same.

 

[SyCoREAPER]

LOL
I have tons of room on current 10+
I don't like to be forced into this.
I don't like to be forced to pay for a phone with higher storage when an SD card is so cheap.

But this phone is getting old and I will have to get something to replace it.

I don't use Spotify.. I use my own stuff. I don't even know if you can play mp3s on a new phone. No one seems to use it, any more.

I don't mind choices .. I don't like to be forced into it. Which is what Apple did and I stayed away ... now android is doing the same.

You've got your options, nobody is forcing anything.

Buy a 512GB phone or use subscription services.

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I would say this: It may be time to reevaluate what is on your phone versus what you really need on your phone. I have about 16 GB of music in my entire library. I only carry my favorite songs on my phone (1.3 GB), which cuts the storage requirements down drasitcally.

OP is now just yelling at the clouds and complaining to complain. Can we just lock this?

 

[Golfdriver97]

OP is now just yelling at the clouds and complaining to complain.

Perhaps...A feature is going away that the OP wants. This isn't too dissimilar from the removable battery being removed from Samsung devices. But, to be fair, this is not new.

Can we just lock this?

I think there still may be more to gain from this discussion. I will keep an eye on it though.

I don't like to be forced to pay for a phone with higher storage when an SD card is so cheap.

Are SD cards cheap? Yup. Are they dependable? Not really. They are typically slower than the internal storage, and the failure rate can fluctuate between brand, and class of the card. I know this is very subjective, but I have had 4 or 5 SD cards fail, from different manufacturers (SanDisk, PNY, and a Sony). I have yet to have an onboard storage from a phone fail. Again, very subjective...but I have never trusted SD cards since.

 

[Laura Knotek]

Perhaps...A feature is going away that the OP wants. This isn't too dissimilar from the removable battery being removed from Samsung devices. But, to be fair, this is not new.


I think there still may be more to gain from this discussion. I will keep an eye on it though.



Are SD cards cheap? Yup. Are they dependable? Not really. They are typically slower than the internal storage, and the failure rate can fluctuate between brand, and class of the card. I know this is very subjective, but I have had 4 or 5 SD cards fail, from different manufacturers (SanDisk, PNY, and a Sony). I have yet to have an onboard storage from a phone fail. Again, very subjective...but I have never trusted SD cards since.

If the OP insists on use of SD cards, their only option would be budget devices like the ones shown here: https://www.androidcentral.com/best-android-phones-expandable-storage

The Sony device is not a budget device, but it also is not available in North America.

 

[Sizzers]

If the OP insists on use of SD cards, their only option would be budget devices like the ones shown here: https://www.androidcentral.com/best-android-phones-expandable-storage

The Sony device is not a budget device, but it also is not available in North America.

When the OP finally runs out of complaints for storage options (are there any left?), I'm waiting for the follow-up that any
"suitable" replacement phone doesn't have a headphone jack....

 

[towngirl]

Did you intentionally only read the words in my statement selectively to make that statement?

Let me dumb it down for you because you are irritating me.

Legally = Purchase
256GB = 256,000MB
320kbps ≈ 5MB
Songs - 256,000÷5= 51,200 Songs (using 1000, not 1024)
51,200 Songs at ~ 0.99¢ = $53,248 (including average tax 4%)

Forget $ vs € vs £. Now tell me, what idiot spends even half that or even a quarter in music purchases of mp3s of all things?

Mine is legally purchased and I put my cds on laptop .. another thing you can't .. put my cds on laptop with WMP

 

[Bkdodger1]

I'm completely the opposite I just hate SD cards but I get the attraction for people it's easy to just load stuff on them.

 

[Golfdriver97]

I'm completely the opposite I just hate SD cards but I get the attraction for people it's easy to just load stuff on them.

For me, when it comes to the discussion of SD cards, it is when does the practicality end and the data hoarding begin?

My example of only holding my favorite songs...it helps keep my storage needs low, and I can easily swap out songs. I have enough songs where it takes almost 8 hours to go through the whole folder.

Edit: I had Windows calculate the runtime for me, and edited my runtime in my post.

 

[gomezz]

Eight hours is not a lot. That would last me two days at work, if that.

 

[edubfromktown]

Perhaps...A feature is going away that the OP wants. This isn't too dissimilar from the removable battery being removed from Samsung devices. But, to be fair, this is not new.


I think there still may be more to gain from this discussion. I will keep an eye on it though.



Are SD cards cheap? Yup. Are they dependable? Not really. They are typically slower than the internal storage, and the failure rate can fluctuate between brand, and class of the card. I know this is very subjective, but I have had 4 or 5 SD cards fail, from different manufacturers (SanDisk, PNY, and a Sony). I have yet to have an onboard storage from a phone fail. Again, very subjective...but I have never trusted SD cards since.

In my experience higher quality SD cards have been reliable for write-only purposes.

I have all of my DSLR camera SD cards and a couple of microSD's that get shelved when full and a new one is inserted. I also backup the data on them periodically to a 14 TB hard drive (in addition to storing/editing them in LrC and some also in Photos on my Mac).

Using SD cards for read, write plus, delete and os/application logging leads to fragmentation and definitely problematic in terms of reliability.

This is why all of my Raspberry Pi's have externally attached drives.

 

[Golfdriver97]

Eight hours is not a lot. That would last me two days at work, if that.

True, but I also have my entire library on a flash drive in my car. So between the 2, I am good.