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There's only one game I play where they take up space, and even then I think it's a case of the developer not having updated very often. On the others, they go away until I swipe from the bottom to call them up.

When it comes to other things like net browsing, reading a note, or other such things, it seems silly to quibble about such a minute loss of space on a large screen. Even on that aforementioned game that leaves them up, there's more than enough real estate that they don't get in the way.

It's been a while since I owned a V10 but I believe there was a way you could disable the on-screen buttons when you were playing a game or other app. I could be wrong tho. Not really a big fan of on-screen buttons but I do like that you can customize them the way you want instead of the Mfg. deciding which side the back button is on for you.
 

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It's been a while since I owned a V10 but I believe there was a way you could disable the on-screen buttons when you were playing a game or other app. I could be wrong tho. Not really a big fan of on-screen buttons but I do like that you can customize them the way you want instead of the Mfg. deciding which side the back button is on for you.
I'm still on the G4 and I'm not aware of any way to disable them at the system level for specific games/apps, rather the apps need to be coded for immersive mode.

Though for me, it's not where the back button is that I love. It's the ability to add the notification pull down and Qslide buttons. I use them all the time now that I have them, and wouldn't want to go "back to the basics." XD
 

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I'm still on the G4 and I'm not aware of any way to disable them at the system level for specific games/apps, rather the apps need to be coded for immersive mode.

Though for me, it's not where the back button is that I love. It's the ability to add the notification pull down and Qslide buttons. I use them all the time now that I have them, and wouldn't want to go "back to the basics." XD

The option is definitely on the v10 and I believe I had it on my g3 and g4. I think the menu option was "hide home touch buttons" or something like that. Should be in the settings in the same place you customize the buttons.
 

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The option is definitely on the v10 and I believe I had it on my g3 and g4. I think the menu option was "hide home touch buttons" or something like that. Should be in the settings in the same place you customize the buttons.

Settings >display >home touch buttons >hide home touch buttons.
 

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I disagree. The on-screen buttons are terrible. I can't believe people are OK with them.

Well, like many decisions from on high, our input is irrelevant. I remember when they first announced it and I thought that it was a weird idea and then I was even more confused when I saw that Samsung was keeping the buttons.

Google made the call and it is unlikely that it will ever be changed. Just like all the brilliant decisions they added to android wear 2.0.

I can either express my disapproval and allow my Urbane to fall behind or I can install it and stomach what parts I can.
 

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My $0.02 I've grown to love the buttons on screen. Being that everyone is in the V20 forum i would think they like phablets with that being said if Samsung would remove there buttons and utilize that space for screen it would be a s smaller phone in size while it maintains the screen size in my opinion a win win
 
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My $0.02 I've grown to love the buttons on screen. Being that everyone is in the V20 forum i would think they like phablets with that being said if Samsung would remove there buttons and utilize that space for screen it would be a s smaller phone in size while it maintains the screen size in my opinion a win win
Samsung going to on-screen buttons makes about as much sense as LG making the LG V20's battery smaller than the V10's battery.
 

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Samsung going to on-screen buttons makes about as much sense as LG making the LG V20's battery smaller than the V10's battery.

I don't quite see the correlation, but it is rather a moot point. Google made the decision to put them into the design specifications, which is why so many phones are using them.

Samsung does what it wants because it is the iPhone of Android.

Personally, I don't care either way.
 

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They've never bothered me, but its been nearly 4 years since I've used Android on a daily driver. I considered Galaxy Note 7 my kickoff. I can upgrade in March and I'm looking at replacing my 6 and iPad with a phablet. It's going to be something post-Note 7. So I am super interested in the V20, iPhone 7, and big Nexus. After seeing drop tests, Gorilla 5 or an equivalently tough glass is a must and I really prefer waterproofing. Note 7 is hurt by the weakness around the curves in the glass, I'd like to see a flat screen for comparison.
 
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I don't quite see the correlation, but it is rather a moot point. Google made the decision to put them into the design specifications, which is why so many phones are using them.

Samsung does what it wants because it is the iPhone of Android.

Personally, I don't care either way.
The correlation is that they're both steps backward. Phones use on-screen buttons to cut costs. There is no other reason to use them.
 

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The correlation is that they're both steps backward. Phones use on-screen buttons to cut costs. There is no other reason to use them.
Sure there is, and I've already listed some of those reasons. You personally may not like them, which I have no problem with your opinion, but they aren't useless or terrible simply by their mere existence.
 

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Having used phones with real buttons and onscreen buttons I must say I'm in favour of onscreen buttons. It's a better use of screen estate, you can customise the order and function of the buttons (I have 5 on my v10) and for me it looks a lot cleaner and I don't find myself accidentally pressing the home button.
So while it may cut costs, there are plenty of other reasons to use them.
 

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The correlation is that they're both steps backward. Phones use on-screen buttons to cut costs. There is no other reason to use them.

Or they do it since that is how Google wants Android to be hence how the menu button went away and was replaced on screen ;).
 

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I don't really care about the buttons, honestly.

I've used all 3 (Capacitive, capacitive recents/back + physical home, on-screen) and I don't have a preference. I can get used to either.

If anything, it's typically a design thing. Capacitive buttons free up more room on the UI but also require a decently-sized chin. Adding a physical button also helps as it reduces the chance of accidental presses and also gives a fingerprint reader a place to be, but also takes up some space. On-screen buttons don't require a huge chin and can be customizable, but also require some room in the UI, though many phones can hide said buttons.