Wow, nexus 5 app load times were impressive. Still not sure how the perfoamnce is using the apps. that video was only showing how fast they launched.
Simply can't decide: ditch the iPhone 5S for a Nexus 5?
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Re: simply can't decide..
Buy what you feel works best for you. Gimmicks to you are useful features to anyone else. There are too many to go through, especially in regards to Samsung and HTC phones. These phones are feature loaded so that they are attractive to the broadest customer base possible, which means that it's totally normal for you to NOT find some features useful while others do, and it's totally normal for features you use a lot to go unused by anyone else. That is why you can turn them on or off, or simply never go into that camera mode. I'm pretty sure I will *never* use Golf Shot mode on my Note 3, but someone who Golfs may find that to be a great training aid...
A lot of Android users dismiss iOS because of missing features. If Apple had those in, those people likely would have had that other choice to consider...
Someone who doesn't use NFC may think it's utterly worthless. Someone who doesn't take panoramas may not even know Photosphere/Photosynth exists. Someone who doesn't work with video may not notice the Samsung TouchWiz's Video Player superiority over HTC Sense, or realize that the Note 3 makes for a much superior camcorder than the One.
The features aren't there to give you the impression that you should be using them all. They're there to maximize your ability to get maximum use and value out of the device, in case you need them or your requirements change over the course of owning the handset.
Other question can be posed in PM since it has potential to sharply derail the thread, though I find it rather rhetorical since we're on Android Central and many of us are well versed in what does and doesn't require rooting. Just cause you've only found one specific reason doesn't mean someone else hasn't found another (obviously, if these forums are any indication
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Samsung's Camera Software has its own Panorama features which work arguably better than Photosphere, but that is less of an issue for someone coming from iOS because they have access to Microsoft's Photosynth which is probably one of [if not] the best implementations of this on the [smartphone] market right now. It's simply not a selling point - even for a Nexus phone - at this point. If you value 360 degree Panoramas, and felt the need to remove Sense to get them (though I'm unaware if that was the reason given those statements), then Sense was a bad choice for you - other OEMs offer this functionality.
Buy what you feel works best for you. Gimmicks to you are useful features to anyone else. There are too many to go through, especially in regards to Samsung and HTC phones. These phones are feature loaded so that they are attractive to the broadest customer base possible, which means that it's totally normal for you to NOT find some features useful while others do, and it's totally normal for features you use a lot to go unused by anyone else. That is why you can turn them on or off, or simply never go into that camera mode. I'm pretty sure I will *never* use Golf Shot mode on my Note 3, but someone who Golfs may find that to be a great training aid...
A lot of Android users dismiss iOS because of missing features. If Apple had those in, those people likely would have had that other choice to consider...
Someone who doesn't use NFC may think it's utterly worthless. Someone who doesn't take panoramas may not even know Photosphere/Photosynth exists. Someone who doesn't work with video may not notice the Samsung TouchWiz's Video Player superiority over HTC Sense, or realize that the Note 3 makes for a much superior camcorder than the One.
The features aren't there to give you the impression that you should be using them all. They're there to maximize your ability to get maximum use and value out of the device, in case you need them or your requirements change over the course of owning the handset.
Other question can be posed in PM since it has potential to sharply derail the thread, though I find it rather rhetorical since we're on Android Central and many of us are well versed in what does and doesn't require rooting. Just cause you've only found one specific reason doesn't mean someone else hasn't found another (obviously, if these forums are any indication
).What do you mean by I'm only lockednin as Mich as I want to be? Like, if I started buying iTunes video content and stuff that can only be used on apple stuff? Isn't app purchases the same thing?
I mean, I know I can't do it right now. Get a android phone I mean. Even though I'm getting a nice tax return, I might use that to just pay some bills and other things.
No...you can always convert video formats. Most of my music library was purchased on iTunes, but I never use Apple devices.
It may not be convenient to port it, but it can be done.
Apps are all platform specific. You can never take apps with you. However most apps on Android have free options available. On iOS it is generally assumed that you need to pay for apps. It isn't like that on Android.
I would never buy a new phone unless I considered it a significant upgrade from my current one.
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It means that you make the choice to buy media from a Store Front that locks the content down to their own devices. You can still buy music and videos from Amazon, for example, and use them on any of the devices you own...
App purchases not so much.
When I moved to iOS I got almost all of the developers with iOS versions of my paid Android apps to gift me the iOS version for free. Since I had deleted my old Google Account, when I moved back I had to rebuy a couple of apps and just lose the rest of them. Google doesn't have this capability in Play Store. So it's actually kind of easy to move app purchases from Android to iOS if the developer is willing to facilitate that. It's almost impossible to do that with an iOS to Android migration, however.
One work-around is to use a 3rd party app store like Samsung Apps or Amazon App Store and purchase your apps from there, that way they aren't tied to any specific Google Account and you rest assured that your purchases stay put even if you decide to delete an old Google Account and start a new one down the line.
App purchases not so much.
When I moved to iOS I got almost all of the developers with iOS versions of my paid Android apps to gift me the iOS version for free. Since I had deleted my old Google Account, when I moved back I had to rebuy a couple of apps and just lose the rest of them. Google doesn't have this capability in Play Store. So it's actually kind of easy to move app purchases from Android to iOS if the developer is willing to facilitate that. It's almost impossible to do that with an iOS to Android migration, however.
One work-around is to use a 3rd party app store like Samsung Apps or Amazon App Store and purchase your apps from there, that way they aren't tied to any specific Google Account and you rest assured that your purchases stay put even if you decide to delete an old Google Account and start a new one down the line.
Re: simply can't decide..
I've seen 3rd party alternatives, but they are always clumsy approximations. No even touches Google yet when it comes to this format.
Google has it's own gimmick features. Face-unlock was one. But Photosphere (not "Photo-panorama") is genuinely useful IMO, and I have used it a lot.
They bought Samsung phones because of the hardware...speed, camera, storage, ect.
Not from what I have seen. Photosphere pics are fully immersive. They are not merely panoramas (and Android has a panorama mode as well).
I've seen 3rd party alternatives, but they are always clumsy approximations. No even touches Google yet when it comes to this format.
yeah...like Google.
I think they are gimmicks to everyone else too. I know a LOT of Samsung users, and none of them use any of the gimmick features. They will use them once and oo and ah over them, then never touch them again. Thats how I know they are gimmick features...they are not really useful.
Google has it's own gimmick features. Face-unlock was one. But Photosphere (not "Photo-panorama") is genuinely useful IMO, and I have used it a lot.
I am speaking from personal experience. I know literally dozens of people with Samsung phones, and none of them are using these gimmick features. They are only using the core features common to all android phones.
They bought Samsung phones because of the hardware...speed, camera, storage, ect.
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Like I said above, you can easily move app purchases to iOS if the developer is willing.
iOS has just as many free app options as Google Play Store. The advantage on iOS is that you often aren't forced to use a Free Ad-Supported app (in most cases) because a superior paid-alternative usually exists and is often of the highest quality. A lot of Ad-Supported Apps on the Play Store don't even give you an option to remove the Ads, so you're still paying for it. Just not in USD
That's your choice. What constitutes a significant upgrade depends on the user. Everything isn't about specs, which are generally unimportant in this day and age as all recent flagships (on all major platforms) are very powerful devices.
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Lol.
I cannot even respond to this. There is just too much forceful generalization to be taken seriously. I'm glad you can speak for Samsung and HTC's entire customer base!
Samsung has 360 Pano in their Camera app. Go look at one and see.
I know there are some things you can do with Google Earth and whatnot with them, but that is largely unimportant and not the main use for the feature.
Again, if you needed or wanted that, then a Sense device was a bad choice
Google isn't a smartphone OEM/ODM. LG is the OEM that made the Nexus 4/5 for Google, and Samsung made the Nexus S/Galaxy Nexus (HTC made the Nexus One).
I'm pretty sure Photosphere is a lot more gimmicky than a lot of the other stuff HTC and Samsung implement on their handsets, Lol. But not to YOU, and that's what matters - for you and your purchasing decisions.
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Well, android is sort of a different beast than iOS.don't know what would be a "huge upgrade"
Yes, I should totally ignore what I have seen in real life and just take the word of a single anonymous user on an internet forum. LOL
...at their specifications. Thats why it has no SD slot.
Re: simply can't decide..
The nexus, spec speaking is not the fastest android out there. The new S5 will have a 2.5 GHz quad core, the nexus i believe has a 2.25Ghz quad? The biggest thing imo that the nexus has for it is vanilla android. The galaxy phones, along with lg have features in them that you can not get on the nexus. But at the end of the day it is what you want and what you prefer. I cannot stand the small 4" screen on the iphone. I personally hate the ios layout, and it is just a little weird to operate. At least for me. The ios keyboard is horrible to type on, i can not stand that thing. At least on the 4" screen. Maybe i have just become accustomed to android keyboards. But you will be happy once you switch to the nexus, or what ever phone you choose. I would seriously take look at the SGS 4 & 5, and the LG G2. I am getting the G2 shortly here when my contract is ready to be renewed. I am supper pumped!But i think android has more useful features, instead of a menu and apps like ios. And also, ios just pauses apps, you have to manually close them. Android at least you close completely out of apps most of the time.
Hope you like your new phone,
Matt
The nexus, spec speaking is not the fastest android out there. The new S5 will have a 2.5 GHz quad core, the nexus i believe has a 2.25Ghz quad? The biggest thing imo that the nexus has for it is vanilla android. The galaxy phones, along with lg have features in them that you can not get on the nexus. But at the end of the day it is what you want and what you prefer. I cannot stand the small 4" screen on the iphone. I personally hate the ios layout, and it is just a little weird to operate. At least for me. The ios keyboard is horrible to type on, i can not stand that thing. At least on the 4" screen. Maybe i have just become accustomed to android keyboards. But you will be happy once you switch to the nexus, or what ever phone you choose. I would seriously take look at the SGS 4 & 5, and the LG G2. I am getting the G2 shortly here when my contract is ready to be renewed. I am supper pumped!But i think android has more useful features, instead of a menu and apps like ios. And also, ios just pauses apps, you have to manually close them. Android at least you close completely out of apps most of the time.
Hope you like your new phone,
Matt
We'll, main reason I was going with the nexus. 5 was its off contract price, since I don't have a upgrade available.
Re: simply can't decide..
Clock speed does not necessarily mean anything. Because there are other variables like RAM and GPU. In the above scenario I would much rather have more RAM than the 2.5ghz cpu.
The S5 is not out yet. Of all current Android phones that are out, it is in the top 5 (top 3 maybe...as far as I know only the Note 3 and G2 are faster).
Clock speed does not necessarily mean anything. Because there are other variables like RAM and GPU. In the above scenario I would much rather have more RAM than the 2.5ghz cpu.
I would too if I did not hate their skins so much. I have come to hate hardware NAV buttons too. They are all great hardware though.
My main issue with samsung is that they are taking up half of the hard drive space.
That is a non-issue, because SD. You have as much storage as you want on Samsung devices.
Kit-kat makes SD storage kinda murky, doesn't it? Far ad I can tell I can't install apps or anything on the SD card. Only photos, music, and video I think.
Anyway, I think I decided to go ahead and give the nexus 5 a go. I'm not 100 percent decided yet, but I feel it'll be something I'll be happy with.
The Nexus 5 is a solid device and at $400 for 32GB won't be a poor buy anytime soon.
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That's what I figure. And if I end up not liking, I'll know I like iPhone more and I'm only out 400 dollars for the nexus 5, which while isn't a insignificant amount, is definetly not as much as other flag ship devices. And it will still be worth having as a second device.
Originally I thought of maybe just getting a moto g, because it was half the price. But I know I'd miss the screen, LTE, the extra storage, and the performance of the nexus 5.
Not for stuff that SD has always been used for...namely photos and videos and music. The only time KitKat and SD are a problem is if you are trying to install apps to SD, which almost no one does anymore, because phones (even cheap ones) have so much internal memory.
On my Droid 1 this was a big issue because I only had 512megs (a half gig) of internal storage total. The cheapest Android phones start at 4 gigs internal now and go up from there.
Which is fine...use internal storage for apps and SD for everything else. That is how I have always done it anyway. I prefer that because then if the phone were to die, my photos would not die with it.
I destroyed my Nexus 5 on a cruise last month (saltwater bath). If I'd had SD, I would not have lost many vacation photos and videos. I could have salvaged the SD card. But the Nexus has no SD...everything is internal. So there is no way to salvage those photos now. Even if the memory is intact (and it probably is) I can't get to it anyway because the phone is destroyed.
There is no downside to SD support. It is always better to have it than to not have it.
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Not that it would have helped you on the cruise (unless they had Wifi), but it can automatically back up all your photos and videos. The auto backup feature is embedded in Google+ and Google gives a fair amount of free cloud storage...15G (I believe it's all wrapped into Google Drive, etc). Not only is that safer than any SD cards (I've lost everything on an SD card more than once), Google+ actually works pretty good as a place to store, edit and share photos.... kind of underrated if you ask me.
I agree...it would have been useless on a cruise. Internet access of any kind is insanely expensive on a cruise no matter how you get it. The ship does not have free wifi...you will pay through the nose for it.
And that is also a prime example of the weaknesses of cloud storage and why Local storage still matters. A lot. The cloud is NOT ubiquitous yet. Not even close.
Cloud storage is very nice and I use it a lot...but it is not a replacement for local storage at all. SD or otherwise.
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