Snapdragon 800 Vs Apple A7

[Yoink676]

For gfx bench the iphone only slightly out paces the 800 but only on on-screen tests due to the low pixel count on the iPhone. But for offscreen tests the 800 again wins, for me id guess in real world performance they would be merely identical.

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http://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?D1=Google+Nexus+5&D2=Apple+iPhone+5S&cols=2

What ?
5s does better in OFF screen tests and completely destroys in ON screen tests.

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[Almeuit]

+1
If it's fast enough for the user, then it's fast enough IMO.

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Agreed.

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[AndroidNote3]

http://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?D1=Google+Nexus+5&D2=Apple+iPhone+5S&cols=2

What ?
5s does better in OFF screen tests and completely destroys in ON screen tests.

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Nope, look at the note 3 snapdragon 800 variant and compare it to the iphone 5s, there are a couple of on screen tests where the adreno 330 comes out on top but most off screen tests the adreno out performs the powervr 6.

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[JHBThree]

Have you ever tried watching a YouTube video while browsing Facebook? It needs more than 2 cores, especially if its a 1080p screen. Real racing 3 also uses more than 2 cores when there's a lot of graphics being processed (background, AI)

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People have run benchmarks that show that all four cores are not used except in extreme situations. Even in situations where they're all used at low frequency, a dual core would be able to handle the task more efficiently.


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[JHBThree]

Nope, look at the note 3 snapdragon 800 variant and compare it to the iphone 5s, there are a couple of on screen tests where the adreno 330 comes out on top but most off screen tests the adreno out performs the powervr 6.

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You can't really say 'nope' when he posts something that proves you wrong.


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[AndroidNote3]

You can't really say 'nope' when he posts something that proves you wrong.


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Omg what how on earth does it prove im wrong? If you look at the note 3 vs the iPhone 5s on gfx bench you can clearly see the adreno 330 beats the iphone5s.

Dont look at the nexus 5, look at the note 3. Omg some people are so stupid...

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[Haalcyon]

Omg some people are so stupid...

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Really? Based on a discussion about ...of all things not important...phone processors? Please be civil and don't work to ignite the mods. Thanks.

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[Yoink676]

Nope, look at the note 3 snapdragon 800 variant and compare it to the iphone 5s, there are a couple of on screen tests where the adreno 330 comes out on top but most off screen tests the adreno out performs the powervr 6.

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Comparing note 3 benchmarks is pretty much useless as it cheats in most benchmarks and so they do not represent real world performance .
The reason I have compared to nexus 5 is because it is one of the phones among the smaller majority which do not use any sort of cheats (in simple language)
So using Nexus 5 for comparing benchmarks is the best way of comparing performance of snapdragon 800 to any other device.

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[JHBThree]

Omg what how on earth does it prove im wrong? If you look at the note 3 vs the iPhone 5s on gfx bench you can clearly see the adreno 330 beats the iphone5s.

Dont look at the nexus 5, look at the note 3. Omg some people are so stupid...

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I looked at the benchmarks for the snapdragon equipped note 3. The iPhone beats it in almost every category. People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones you know.

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[AndroidNote3]

I looked at the benchmarks for the snapdragon equipped note 3. The iPhone beats it in almost every category. People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones you know.

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[Redaction by Moderator] I mean its there in black and white, the A7 is not thr dominant Processor on gfxbench vs the snapdragon 800

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[AndroidNote3]

I looked at the benchmarks for the snapdragon equipped note 3. The iPhone beats it in almost every category. People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones you know.

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Out of the 14 tests that done on gfx bench, Note 3 wins 6, and iphone wins 8. But it sure doesnt "beat it in almost every category" exaggeration much and a bit of apple bum licking I think...

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[Aquila]

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[pappy53]

Out of the 14 tests that done on gfx bench, Note 3 wins 6, and iphone wins 8. But it sure doesnt "beat it in almost every category" exaggeration much and a bit of apple bum licking I think...

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I think it is a shame that the "all-world" quad core Note 3 lost 8 of 14 to a lower clocked dual core iPhone. Samsung could learn some optimization lessons from Apple and Moto. I'm surprised that they didn't steal that from Apple, too.

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[Haalcyon]

It is my opinion that as great as the Note 3 is that it should perform even better given its specifications.

On the AT&T variant I auditioned I saw some lag and other behavior that weren't suggestive that the Note 3 is one of the most powerful phones ever conceived. Especially delays in Air Command both rendering and launching its minions.

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[pappy53]

It is my opinion that as great as the Note 3 is that it should perform even better given its specifications.

On the AT&T variant I auditioned I saw some lag and other behavior that weren't suggestive that the Note 3 is one of the most powerful phones ever conceived. Especially delays in Air Command both rendering and launching its minions.

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Agreed. I wasn't slamming it by calling it "all-world", as specs would indicate that it is all-world. But performance doesn't bear this out. I still refer back to optimization, or lack thereof.

 

[Farish]

Even though in gaming it wouldn't matter in your case, simple multi tasking (floating YouTube popup) and switching apps would make 4 cores better. I have a HTC Amaze with a snapdragon S3 processor. Dual core is not enough to maintain a smooth 60fps on duty driver bus. I should note it is clocked at 1.5 GHz.

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Because you keep focusing on processor not gpu. Also some of your lag could be a function of ram than cpu.

There are so many other factors outside of just cpu.

 

[alexlam24]

Because you keep focusing on processor not gpu. Also some of your lag could be a function of ram than cpu.

There are so many other factors outside of just cpu.

Gpu is fine. I have a decent amount of ram also.

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[TroyBoy30]

everyone knows the a7 is a beast

 

[alexlam24]

everyone knows the a7 is a beast

I like the RS7

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[Weaser999]

It depends. Would 4 cores in gaming bring about any noticeable improvement in performance? Would there be any debilitating drawbacks (such as faster battery drain or more heat generated) which outweigh any performance gains?

Same thing in typical everyday usage. What are the user scenarios where a person would actually tap on all 4 cores? As it appears now, the use of quad-core processors seems little more than a marketing gimmick designed more to wow customers than to genuinely provide a better user experience. People argue about how Android can do more, but how many people do actually tax the Note3's capabilities this way? Nor do I see "power apps" being released that take advantage of all those high-end specs either (likely because the majority of Android phones actually sport rather anaemic specs).

The crux of the issue here is not about which phone tops a benchmarking test, but about whether those engineering decisions which go into a phone are really in the consumer's best interests. What Apple does is first decide on the user experience they want consumers to have, then work backwards to see how best to deliver that experience. That's why they dare to continue using dual-core processors in a time when everyone else has moved on to quad-core (or even octa-core) processors. The user experience here is being emphasised more than winning some meaningless spec test.

Normally I might accept that, but coming from dual core to quad core on my PC the difference in multi-tasking is huge. There is a reason why you don't see dual core CPU's anymore. Or hardly anymore.