So.. I'm returning my N9

[scottfish]

I feel a little validated knowing that others agreed that the amount of light bleed I had was not acceptable. I felt a little like a punk-*** for complaining.

On another note, I played with it a little more and it seems that heat by the camera really only occurred while it was updating. And... The USB plug wobble was only with the cord that came with it. Other cables didn't wobble so much.

I may give it another shot down the road.

I am certainly loading Lollipop on my N7 today though.

 

[kpiontek]

Give Angry English a break.
I, too, bought a 32GB nexus 9 at BestBuy on Monday. And there is lot to like, but I, too, have a gripe with the built quality of the device. It has the spongy back, and a good amount of light bleed on the left side. The buttons are recessed, but fine for me. Battery life is good, I got 8.5 h of screen time at ~40% brightness with WiFi on, browsing, launching apps (no games) and streaming movies. So, that is fine. Some of the lag that people experience when launching apps I didn't notice, but it might be the encryption on the device, don't know for sure.
But to tell you the truth, I feel similar as Angry English. For the amount of money that HTC/Google charge for the device, these hardware issue that some, including Angry English and me, experience are unacceptable. If you start to charge premium prices than one should expect premium quality, and while some do seem to receive that in their device, others do not, clearly a quality control issue. Were the Nexus 9 priced around $379 for the 32GB version I would be inclined to forgive the light bleed and spongy back, but not for $479.
I have mine boxed up as well and will be returning it today. Maybe I will buy another one but maybe I'll wait until somebody else, Nvidia perhaps, that comes out with K1 64bit hardware. But to sum it up, I think this release is an embarrassment for HTC and ultimately Google. In the past Nexus devices were cheaper with good hardware (I own/owned many Nexus device from the Nexus One to the Nexus 7 2013) and some shortcoming were forgivable because of the price. But this year Google raised the price and hence the bar for their Nexus devices, and as fairly loyal customer I have to wonder whether Google made the right move.

 

[Paul627g]

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[gtt1]

Well took mine back to BB yesterday. I was lucky in that mine had no problems whatsoever. Firm back, no lags and no light bleed. Only major problems to me was edge to sharp holding it while reading and after 2-3 hours found it uncomfortable as well by size. Other major complaint was the power and sound buttons on mine were totally flush and almost needed a finger nail to use them. Did find the battery ran down quickly and many apps are still not set up for L and who knows when. Main factor for me was price as I felt I could be just as happy with a lower priced tablet as long as it didn't lag. It is a concern that quality control from HTC seems to be abysmal and who knows with the tablets not having a problem whether these may show up a month from now when you need warranty service vs a return.

Was going to buy a Nexus 7 as price was dropped to $175 at BB but none in store. Played with the Samsung tab pro 8.4 for 15 minutes as I had been considering this one based on price $249. and liked everything about in the short time I played with it. Decided to buy it and try it for longer figuring if I found I didn't like it would return it and just get the N7. So have been using it for over a day and it is great for me. Good battery life for my usage and smooth with no lag that I have seen. Touchwiz problem well to be honest not even sure what touchwiz is as it has not come into play for me. If its the swipe to the right that brings up the magazine stuff not a big deal. There is a swipe to the left that brings icons for multiple window use but that is not something I would use. My only problem is the capacitive buttons for home back and task list as they are fixed unlike Nexus and I could see touching them accidentally in landscape mode.

 

[quadtronix]

Re: delete

Its been almost a week I've had the N9 and so far so good... Loving Lollipop! I don't have any doubt though that the defects that a lot of you are seeing are very real and completely unacceptable! Its a shame cause I'd like to be able to recommend this tablet to friends, family and clients but not sure if I can after reading all this... We'll see. Maybe it was just a bad first batch. But that doesn't excuse it. I hope you all find a tablet that's just right for you and your needs...

On another note... Angry English.... How are you liking Advanced Warfare? I think I read you were getting it. I got it a few days ago myself and am loving it!

Sent via Tapatalk from my Nexus N!ne... -The Next Generation of Nexus-

 

[Robert Ratskywatsky]

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Was going to buy a Nexus 7 as price was dropped to $175 at BB but none in store. Played with the Samsung tab pro 8.4 for 15 minutes as I had been considering this one based on price $249. and liked everything about in the short time I played with it. Decided to buy it and try it for longer figuring if I found I didn't like it would return it and just get the N7. So have been using it for over a day and it is great for me. Good battery life for my usage and smooth with no lag that I have seen. Touchwiz problem well to be honest not even sure what touchwiz is as it has not come into play for me. If its the swipe to the right that brings up the magazine stuff not a big deal. There is a swipe to the left that brings icons for multiple window use but that is not something I would use. My only problem is the capacitive buttons for home back and task list as they are fixed unlike Nexus and I could see touching them accidentally in landscape mode.

I'm undecided too. My N7 2013 has been great. The ONLY complaint I have about it is that the GPS never worked well. I want a bigger tablet, but I don't know what to get. I'll just hang on to the N7 for a while longer.

I'm hoping that some new one comes out that makes it a no brainer to choose. I was hoping that the N9 would be it, but it wasn't. I want wireless charging - or are they all abandoning that very excellent innovation now? I'm not sure what Touchwiz on the Samsung is either, except everyone hates it. Samsung is one that I had been looking at, as well as the Ipad 2, as well as the N9, but none of them seem great. Samsung is constantly coming out with new models. Maybe they'll come out with one now for the Chr - I mean "holiday" season.

 

[Scotlac]

I'm undecided too. My N7 2013 has been great. The ONLY complaint I have about it is that the GPS never worked well. I want a bigger tablet, but I don't know what to get. I'll just hang on to the N7 for a while longer.

I'm hoping that some new one comes out that makes it a no brainer to choose. I was hoping that the N9 would be it, but it wasn't. I want wireless charging - or are they all abandoning that very excellent innovation now? I'm not sure what Touchwiz on the Samsung is either, except everyone hates it. Samsung is one that I had been looking at, as well as the Ipad 2, as well as the N9, but none of them seem great. Samsung is constantly coming out with new models. Maybe they'll come out with one now for the Chr - I mean "holiday" season.

Touchwiz is Samsung's proprietary software overlay. It adds a lot of bloat and just generally slows down performance. It also alters the pure Android experience. That's why a lot of people that are "in the know" don't really care for it.

I have seen a preview of the new Lollipop version of Touchwiz and it does seem like it's going to be less intrusive and more in line with pure Android but I prefer the real deal.

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[Shilohcane]

I'm undecided too. My N7 2013 has been great.

I'm not sure what Touchwiz on the Samsung is either, except everyone hates it.

I also have a Nexus 5 and two N7's. Samsung Touchwiz is their own User Interface overlay, different launcher, different Google Now and they just have new names for a lot of Google like Apps. I have a technical computer background so everyone give me their Samsung phone when they have issues to change or fix. Like a female friend that somehow changed her S5's default language to Chinese which we couldn't read. My biggest issue with Touchwiz is almost everything is different in setting. Samsung has replaced Apps like Chrome browser with their own version. Samsung version of WhatsApp or Hangout is called ChatOn I think. I'm not putting ChatOn on my phone just so my Samsung friends can contact me. Some Samsung friends want me to download WhatsApp. Hangout is on my phone but not my default SMS/MMS however Hangout still works great for video chants, texts and Wi-Fi phone calls if everyone has Hangout.

TouchWiz works great but it is like half way between a Nexus phone and forked version of the Amazon Fire phone/tablet from Amazon. The only thing that frustrates me is it takes me so much more effort and time to help a friend with a change on their phone that would have been like 15 seconds on pure Android. It took me two hours to get that Chinese back to English default language for my friends S5 since I had to borrow another friends Samsung to figure it out. This video shows you TouchWiz

 

[Robert Ratskywatsky]

Shilo - I have an older Galaxy 4.2 (along with the N7 2013). Are those Samsung Touchwiz controls the same as they are on that one? That one is no problem.

I was at the Best Buy store today ogling tablets, and I think I know what I want next - the Samsung 12" with the attached keyboard-case - but I want to wait until the new model comes out, probably before Christmas. It's neat. Looks like a laptop. It makes the 10" look tiny by comparison.

 

[Aquila]

I think that some OEM's have been very slow to realize the demand for new software versions. Originally many shared the view that they put the intended software for a device on it out of the box and that was what you were buying. Now the expectation of not only updates, but fast and prolonged updates adds a new element to device positioning. They're not winning new sales by encouraging the 2 year paradigm ... but they may be netting some return customers by not leaving them blowing in the wind. It's definitely a tough decision to make - although I would argue that more standardization among components makes it easier to update and also provides incentive to make fewer deep rooted firmware changes and let your apps do the talking. That allows quicker (and thus cheaper) software updates to be rolled out and IMO provides a better user experience anyways.

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

I think that some OEM's have been very slow to realize the demand for new software versions. Originally many shared the view that they put the intended software for a device on it out of the box and that was what you were buying. Now the expectation of not only updates, but fast and prolonged updates adds a new element to device positioning. They're not winning new sales by encouraging the 2 year paradigm ... but they may be netting some return customers by not leaving them blowing in the wind. It's definitely a tough decision to make - although I would argue that more standardization among components makes it easier to update and also provides incentive to make fewer deep rooted firmware changes and let your apps do the talking. That allows quicker (and thus cheaper) software updates to be rolled out and IMO provides a better user experience anyways.

Having a very similar architecture helps as well. SoC makers have to choose to support the chip before an OEM can commit to updates.

 

[Paul627g]

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