So very disappointed in my LG G5...

[galaxyfive]

I think it's wrong to generalize an entire smartphone demographic for a particular brand.

Apple and Samsung are insanely popular and are used by many people who aren't so familiar with tech. But don't forget that people who are very literate in technology, including AC users, also use phones from Apple and Samsung.

Because Apple and Samsung both make a very good product.

IMHO
In the grand scheme of things these discussions boards represent nothing but coffee shop talk. We're the outliers if you will. Many group discussions are usually ill informed or exaggerated, so the take aways by others reading these discussions are also ill informed. That begins the perpetuation of misinformation on the products we discuss, no matter the brand. There are millions upon millions upon millions of satisfied users of all types and shapes of devices and that must account for something.

If anyone should be pulling their collective hair out it should be the marketing departments of the device makers trying to do damage control caused by the unrealistic expectations of a minority group of users of their products.

 

[mhettrich]

Is anyone else's sim card slot slightly recessed into the phone. It leaves a sharp edge where my finger runs over that point. Certainly not a deal breaker as I've seen this on other phones as well, but I wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this on their device....it's my only complaint at the moment.

 

[gendo667]

Is anyone else's sim card slot slightly recessed into the phone. It leaves a sharp edge where my finger runs over that point. Certainly not a deal breaker as I've seen this on other phones as well, but I wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this on their device....it's my only complaint at the moment.

No problems here. I can feel it there, but no sharp edges.

 

[mhettrich]

No problems here. I can feel it there, but no sharp edges.

I'll be curious to see if anyone else has it. It's the only imperfection I can find so I hesitate to exchange it in case I wind up with one that has light bleed or worse build problems. We'll see.

 

[Mike Dee]

Is anyone else's sim card slot slightly recessed into the phone. It leaves a sharp edge where my finger runs over that point. Certainly not a deal breaker as I've seen this on other phones as well, but I wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this on their device....it's my only complaint at the moment.

Can't really feel it....I assume you tried removing it and reinstalling to see if it seats better

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[marlin29311]

In general, that last thing LG owners are is sheep. I think we make up the more common sense type people of the Android world. We bought LG because it was a logical alternative and are not swayed by the marketing machine of Samsung. Not that I wouldn't buy a Samsung if it suited me well. Thats the point, we are not loyal to the brand of LG, we are loyal to our usage and will leave if something else is better.

Actually, I would tend to say that you're more of a Sheep than a Moto user. LG still has big company mentality like Samsung, whereas Moto had the small guy attitude and capability, but still turned out fantastic Android phones that didn't get anywhere near the level of sales LG or Sammy did.

As for people calling Samsung users Sheep, you can call anybody a sheep for anything. I left my Droid Turbo for a S7 Edge because it had everything I wanted in a phone and it does what I want it to do. I tinker the crap out of all of my stuff - does that make me a sheep for having a Samsung? I really wanted the G5 from the get go, but it unfortunately underperformed and didn't meet my expectations, so I went to another product that met my needs. People say the same about iPhones too - they are wonderful devices that people love because they meet their needs, but I'll never buy one because it doesn't meet my needs.

Fanboyism and "sheeping" is starting to get absurd, and the internet makes it completely worse. It happens everywhere too - I get ridiculed because I own an Xbox and a BMW in those domains...what gives? I buy the product I want and I don't criticize people who buy Playstations and Audis because I know that without a competitor product, my product would not exist.

 

[tardus]

The G5 has nothing on the GS7. One thing I can say about Samsung is that when they were advertising an all metal and glass build, thats excacly what they did, hands down

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? The G5 does have a removable battery. Surely that's something. Also I'd never get a phone with a glass back. But LG could have done better. RIP the back buttons.

 

[mhettrich]

Can't really feel it....I assume you tried removing it and reinstalling to see if it seats better

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Yeah, I have. It's really not a huge annoyance, as some of what I've seen other units look like is far worse. Going to live with it for the time being and if it really continues to bother me I'll go for an exchange. My only hesitation is that I may wind up with a unit with other problems. So far my phone has performed perfectly with no light bleed or other structural issues some have had. It's a tough call.

 

[GolferChris68]

I know some people are fanboys, but I think that label gets thrown around a lot more than it should. If LG had knocked it out of the part with a brilliantly designed device with a smooth, powerful UI, great cameras, and a fantastic build, does anyone really think there would be as much disappointment as there has been with the G5? Of course not - people would flock to that device. Sure, you'd still get the few hard-core fanboys complaining about some trivial issue with the G5, but that's not what we have here. There are very legitimate reasons to be disappointed with the G5, especially after LG did such a great job with the V10.

Personally, I'm platform and OEM-agnostic. I have an iPhone 6s Plus that I use for work, and a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge that is my personal device. I love both equally, and sometimes swap SIMs between them, depending on my mood. However, they are very different devices - OS, screen technology, design philosophy, open vs closed ecosystem. Big differences between the two. But there are elements that they have in common that draws people to them - - fantastic build quality, great cameras, great battery life, smooth operation, great-looking screens. Samsung and Apple take very different roads to get there, but they both arrive at the same location with regards to getting the important things right.

This is where the G5 fails. It got some of those core elements right - cameras are great, the screen looks great, and operation is smooth. However, they failed miserably with one of those important core elements: build quality and fit/finish. Perhaps the issue is with the first batches of the G5 coming off the assembly line, but even so, it's still looks bad compared to Apple and Samsung, who seem to have better, more consistent quality control and the ability for the first devices coming out of the factory to look as good as the most recent ones coming off the assembly line. LG has to fix this, and gain this consistency of QC.

I returned my G5, but I have to admit that there are elements of the device I really like - the wide-angle camera is really cool to have (though I wish it were at least 12MP instead of 8MP). And the screen, despite being an LCD, is really nice to look at it in most situations (still not as good as Apple and Samsung in direct sunlight). Battery life seemed OK. But the thing that killed it for me was the inconsistent quality control. The G5 felt cheap, and the uneven gap at the bottom where the battery module is connected was too much to just ignore. Perhaps I might get one again from a future batch, because I do like the other elements enough to still want one. But right now, it's hard to recommend the G5 over other devices like the S7/Edge. I hope LG learns from this, and doesn't repeat these mistakes in the future.

 

[Mike Dee]

I know some people are fanboys, but I think that label gets thrown around a lot more than it should. If LG had knocked it out of the part with a brilliantly designed device with a smooth, powerful UI, great cameras, and a fantastic build, does anyone really think there would be as much disappointment as there has been with the G5? Of course not - people would flock to that device. Sure, you'd still get the few hard-core fanboys complaining about some trivial issue with the G5, but that's not what we have here. There are very legitimate reasons to be disappointed with the G5, especially after LG did such a great job with the V10.

Personally, I'm platform and OEM-agnostic. I have an iPhone 6s Plus that I use for work, and a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge that is my personal device. I love both equally, and sometimes swap SIMs between them, depending on my mood. However, they are very different devices - OS, screen technology, design philosophy, open vs closed ecosystem. Big differences between the two. But there are elements that they have in common that draws people to them - - fantastic build quality, great cameras, great battery life, smooth operation, great-looking screens. Samsung and Apple take very different roads to get there, but they both arrive at the same location with regards to getting the important things right.

This is where the G5 fails. It got some of those core elements right - cameras are great, the screen looks great, and operation is smooth. However, they failed miserably with one of those important core elements: build quality and fit/finish. Perhaps the issue is with the first batches of the G5 coming off the assembly line, but even so, it's still looks bad compared to Apple and Samsung, who seem to have better, more consistent quality control and the ability for the first devices coming out of the factory to look as good as the most recent ones coming off the assembly line. LG has to fix this, and gain this consistency of QC.

I returned my G5, but I have to admit that there are elements of the device I really like - the wide-angle camera is really cool to have (though I wish it were at least 12MP instead of 8MP). And the screen, despite being an LCD, is really nice to look at it in most situations (still not as good as Apple and Samsung in direct sunlight). Battery life seemed OK. But the thing that killed it for me was the inconsistent quality control. The G5 felt cheap, and the uneven gap at the bottom where the battery module is connected was too much to just ignore. Perhaps I might get one again from a future batch, because I do like the other elements enough to still want one. But right now, it's hard to recommend the G5 over other devices like the S7/Edge. I hope LG learns from this, and doesn't repeat these mistakes in the future.

The problem for many people trying to decide between Samsung S7E or S7 vs G5 is there is a size difference at both ends. S7E is too large for people to hold that have smaller hands and too much of a phablet for my taste. The S7 screen size is too small. For my needs the G5 is just right but it all depends on what you like.

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[ninjataint]

My Android journey has been Moto, Moto, Moto, Samsung, Samsung, HTC, LG, LG

I just assume most people buy whatever appeals to them at the time and the fanboy/sheep label is what fanboys/sheep call each other.

I bought the G5, coming from a G3, because it was the most interesting to me. I have the two week return period to fall back on and if in 6 months I am not happy, I'll buy a different phone.

So far, I dig it though.

 

[Tadrift]

Actually, I would tend to say that you're more of a Sheep than a Moto user. LG still has big company mentality like Samsung, whereas Moto had the small guy attitude and capability, but still turned out fantastic Android phones that didn't get anywhere near the level of sales LG or Sammy did.

As for people calling Samsung users Sheep, you can call anybody a sheep for anything. I left my Droid Turbo for a S7 Edge because it had everything I wanted in a phone and it does what I want it to do. I tinker the crap out of all of my stuff - does that make me a sheep for having a Samsung? I really wanted the G5 from the get go, but it unfortunately underperformed and didn't meet my expectations, so I went to another product that met my needs. People say the same about iPhones too - they are wonderful devices that people love because they meet their needs, but I'll never buy one because it doesn't meet my needs.

Fanboyism and "sheeping" is starting to get absurd, and the internet makes it completely worse. It happens everywhere too - I get ridiculed because I own an Xbox and a BMW in those domains...what gives? I buy the product I want and I don't criticize people who buy Playstations and Audis because I know that without a competitor product, my product would not exist.

You missed my point. YOU are one of us. Just as you described yourself, that would be the majority of current LG owners. And half of us could be Samsung or Motorola owners next month. We buy independent of the brand, we buy what we like and what works for us. I said, I would buy a Samsung if it suited me. They make fantastic phones. I just said we aren't swayed by their marketing machine, which I am not and it sounds like you are not either. And yes, there is a huge base of Samsung fans that are almost militant against other brands. That is not you or me.

I don't like brand stereotyping either. I am a car guy as well. I have owned all the brands. I joined a Mustang club and quit because of the whole ours is better then yours mentality. I thought the point was to enjoy our cars together, not bash and beat down other brands. Why are you hanging out with the Vette guys? They have a Vette, they are assholes. Nope, they seem friendly to me and I like the car, so I say hi. Not acceptable.

LG owners I think are practical buyers. Which is why, if LG did make a G5 that has problems or current owners don't like it, they have a serious problem on their hands, because we aren't loyal to the brand. LG has never made flashy phones to attract the fanboys. They have made very good hardware and it normally just flat out works without major compromises. The camera is great, screen is great, gets good reception, call quality is good, software isn't pretty but it is snappy most of the time, the battery life is good, etc. without all the bling or expectations.

 

[GrooveRite]

Which is why, if LG did make a G5 that has problems or current owners don't like it, they have a serious problem on their hands, because we aren't loyal to the brand. LG has never made flashy phones to attract the fanboys. They have made very good hardware and it normally just flat out works without major compromises. The camera is great, screen is great, gets good reception, call quality is good, software isn't pretty but it is snappy most of the time, the battery life is good, etc. without all the bling or expectations.

I like what you said here.

LG makes the device that I like. Plain and simple. If Samsung had reintroduced the removable battery in their new devices, I would of considered them as well. Since they don't, they're out of the picture for me. We all vote with our wallets. If LG and Samsung don't make a device I like, I will look at other manufacturers that have the things I need in my device.

 

[Unicorn Guy]

I agree with you guys too... but I tend to get attached to my devices and not want to let them go! Unless, of course there is actually an advancement that warrants an upgrade!!!!!

I've been super amped and extremely happy with my G5, But I am in no way shape or form, brand loyal. I bought my g2 waaay before it was cool... and I bought it for its specs/hardware... nothing else could touch it in December of 2013.

Point being, I couldn't find a phone made by anyone in the last two years that made me feel like it was a big enough of a performance increase to upgrade. Especially, when you add into the mix after g2, Sammy and LG both went to QHD.... this was an upgrade that ruined the last two years worth of handsets for me.

What good is it to have the latest tech in your hand, only to need to be tethered to an outlet 3 times a day!!!?!! Lol!! I don't know about you guys, but I need my battery to last me!!!!

I was actually disappointed when MWC came around and LG had stepped down in battery capacity...
But I held onto hope as they had shrunk the screen, and the 820 was supposed to be so much more efficient.

Now it's here in my hand, and I think for sure.... I'll be wondering for the next couple model releases... Why exactly it is I should be upgrading this one again!?!?

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[LanceAllan]

The problem for many people trying to decide between Samsung S7E or S7 vs G5 is there is a size difference at both ends. S7E is too large for people to hold that have smaller hands and too much of a phablet for my taste. The S7 screen size is too small. For my needs the G5 is just right but it all depends on what you like.

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had me scratching my head a little on your size comparisons as i have both... just had to post a picture of the phablet (s7e) next to the smaller g5....??

 

[anon(9408097)]

had me scratching my head a little on your size comparisons as i have both... just had to post a picture of the phablet (s7e) next to the smaller g5....??

Hahahaha thank you for this. Good one.

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[Mike Dee]

had me scratching my head a little on your size comparisons as i have both... just had to post a picture of the phablet (s7e) next to the smaller g5....??

I did qualify that buy saying people with smaller hands. When your hands are small that little bit of difference no matter how small can be the difference between something you can work with or not. The G5 size and shape just felt better. It being shorter also made it feel more balanced for one handed operation.

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[LanceAllan]

the edge is actually just slightly narrower than the g5....

 

[Mike Dee]

the edge is actually just slightly narrower than the g5....

And slightly thicker, but the shape of the G5 feels better.....personal preference

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[IBJammin]

I like the "sharp" groove. In fact, when I looked at the pre-release photos, I was hoping it would be like it turned out to be.

We have some iPhone 6s at work that I have to test with, and with their perfectly rounded edges and silky finish, I have trouble picking them up off a table. Whenever I squeeze them with my fingers to pull it away from the table surface, it slips out of my fingers. I have to rock it off the table. The groove gives my fingers something to grab onto.

Likewise, I like how the groove "bites" into my palm and fingers when I'm holding the phone. Some phones are so slippery that when I hold them tight as I'm walking around to guard against dropping them, they feel like they are going to pop out of my hand.

But not with the groove. It's exactly what I was hoping for.

Agree completely and feel this is a design element rather than a flaw.

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