If you are a T-mo or Fi user, check your SIM status when you are on 5G. It should display 'NR SA' for Stand Along 5G network. Most if us will only see 'NR NSA' for the slower than LTE 5G.
Software Update To Add 5G Band n77
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Yup i was able to see "NR SA'" under the SIM status when connected to 5G. After reading the article from 9to5google i checked while walking my dog. My speed was at 160-170 down and usually it's 40-60 in this area. So it went up significantly compared to before but not the speeds they claimed. I think they said it will reach like 600 down depending the area and signal strength. Regardless the speeds more than doubled for me so can't complain. This was outdoor in my block, but I'll keep an eye when i go further.
I'm on Google Fi.
I'm on Google Fi.
More important is low latency. See if you can get single digit, not the double digit or higher we got from NSA network.
As for speed, I was on AT&T mmWave (5G+) once, I got over 300mbps. That still considers low for mmWave. Should be 1Gbps+.
As for speed, I was on AT&T mmWave (5G+) once, I got over 300mbps. That still considers low for mmWave. Should be 1Gbps+.
My understanding is that N77 is part of the recent C band auction. It's a new band that's not directly related to current standalone 5g. N77 should be standalone from the start, since it will not be using existing LTE bands. What you're seeing now with TMo's current standalone is their conversion of the NSA towers to SA towers.
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I wasn't infer that N77 has anything to do with the update delay of T-mo or Fi. It is probably another year or two before we see the new C band in use.
That screenshot doesn't mean anything
You need check the SIM status to show current mobile data network is 'NR SA'.
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Here you goThat screenshot doesn't mean anything
Sorry. Wasn't trying to imply anything. I just picked a quote to use for context in my reply since this thread seemed to be steering towards linking SA 5g to N77.
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That shows you are on NSA mode(your network shows NR NSA), not stand alone mode. You miss-understood what SA means. It doesn't mean whether or not you can choose 5G from your handset. It means the SA network is a brand new network designed specifically for 5G so it can have lower latency and higher speed. NSA 5G means you are still using a 4G network with 5G radio pegged on it and it typically will share the same latency and speed as 4G LTE.
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So your saying as it stands right now on my T-Mobile with the pixel 5 it's not stand alone ?
Correct. T-Mo only started rolling out SA 5G and currently it only covers 30%- 40% of its 5G network.
Don't worry. As the C band is still far and a few handsets away, there is not much to talk about it.
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Oh these carriers
I even have a SA 5g sim from T-Mobile. Well thanks for clearing that up.Also, on the screen shots I've seen where the network showed NR SA, the voice network also showed NR.
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My friends in Canada normally get around 200 to 300mbps on 5G. My friends in China get around 500mbps on 5G. Currently in USA, average 5G speed across different carriers are around 50-60mbps! Grade to see T-mo made a positive step towards real 5G.
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