Still no 25FPS on Android

[arconz]

So its 2021 now and phones still can't record in PAL 25/50fps. Yay.

I am using an S9, I tried Filmic Pro and in HDR mode it can't actually hit the 25fps target rate in 3K or 4K. Quality is horrible, completely blown out luminosity & poor color fidelity. By comparison the Samsung factory camera can actually be used for broadcast shoots under good conditions... how is it even possible they don't realize half the world uses PAL?

 

[Rukbat]

More than half - but S. Korea is on NTSC (actually ATSC now). I'd think that they'd set phones sold in PAL areas to use PAL, though. (Or does your phone come from an ATSC country?)

 

[arconz]

I am in New Zealand which is PAL. Samsung phone engineers are either extremely lazy or more likely just don't understand broadcasting and think that "more fps" equals "better quality" lol.

 

[Manfred Jarvis]

I have been ranting on about this for years in various forums. If the smartphone is now replacing the camcorder, then we should have the option to shoot in the video standard which is compatible with our regions, i.e 3/4 of the world have 50Hz electricity and PAL frame rates, yet phones are all sold at 30fps NTSC stadard, while dedicated cameras are sold in 50Hz countries in PAL mode. Someone once said that it's because phones are all produced as a one size fits all, but thats not true because Samsung are selling their S series phones with Snapdragon chips for American markets, and Xynos for Europe, so while their at it, why can't the sell PAL video recording frame rates with the Xinos version phones?
The whole world of video is being ruined by pig minded developers, we now see vertical video everywhere along with jerky frame rates on PAL country tv broadcasts, such as news etc. Also We can't integrate our phone cameras along with our camcorders and other PAL cameras. In the USA they can, so this is not fair either.
I know that IOS14 have now added a PAL 25fps mode to their Iphones, but it needs to get activated as the default is 30fps, so most people in PAL countries wont use it, but I personally hate iphones as they look so ugly and samey, so i'm wishing for an Android phone to have 25fps video.
I too have tried 3rd party apps on my current Galaxy S8 but the quality is not as good as the stock app as the stock app is finely tuned to the camera unlike 3rd party apps. Filmic pro offers 25fps, yet 50Hz lights still flicker and the app keeps reverting back to 30fps.
Totally useless for 3/4 of the world unless you want to ruin video by making it incompatible. Yet it seems we are crying in silence as manufacturers are not listening.

 

[NeilG]

Myself and most of the world agree that we are sick and tired of seeing jerky panning shots on broadcasted TV. I run a video production company in the UK, and refuse to use mobile phone footage unless it has been shot at 25 or 50 fps because it never looks good alongside professional or semi professional cameras. Even if the footage has been shot with third party apps I will edit out any jerky or flickery lighting shots.
Much as I like Samsung phones, I think it is shameful that you cannot acknowledge three quarters of the world, and their requirements.

 

[NeilG]

I have decided to start a petition to try and force Android into providing us with 25/50fps video recording. I wil let you all know when I start my rampage.

 

[fuzzylumpkin]

I don't think mobile phone cameras are made with broadcast TV in mind lol.

 

[NeilG]

Mobile phone cameras don't offer anything like broadcast standard video because they are only 4:2:0, and the frame size/resolution is less than a broadcaster would require. However, if the phone manufacturer is offering NTSC at 30fps for the USA and a few other countries, it is only sensible to also offer PAL at 25fps to the rest of the world. Amateur camcorder makers have been doing that for forty years.