Super battery life on the CAT S41. Samsung should be ashamed of themselves...

[anon(10181084)]

Over 5hrs SOT!

 

[belodion]

I used to be able to get SOTs like that on my LG G3 in the first months of using, though I think I used low screen brightness. Thems was the days of Kitkat, I remember.

 

[LuxuryTouringZone]

If Samsung would just make their smartphones thicker, they'd be able to safely store 4000 (maybe even larger) mAh batteries in their handsets.

 

[anon(10181084)]

My phone has 5000mAh. And this battery life measurement was with heavy mobile data usage... And max screen brightness.

 

[kramer5150]

Sadly... flagship devices always come with entry level batteries. If you want a flagship device you have to learn to tolerate an entry level battery.

 

[kramer5150]

If Samsung would just make their smartphones thicker, they'd be able to safely store 4000 (maybe even larger) mAh batteries in their handsets.

Not just Samsung, all the flagship manufacturers.

But then that would be potentially one less reason for people to "need" to replace their phone every other year. The OEMs and more importantly in the US, the carriers DON'T want that. They need us to sign up for a new payment plan every 2 years.

 

[Almeuit]

Your phone was shut off for a hunk of time between that. Interesting.

Either way SoT is a bad measurement to go by for good life. For example my Pixel 2 XL life / SoT below..

 

[anon(10181084)]

Wow! That is God damn impressive! Did you keep your display full brightness non-stop? That "hunk of time" was the night, because I shut my phone off and DO NOT keep it next to my bed. I also use mobile data with sub-optimum signal reception and keep my phone in airplane mode when I do not need the cell radio to be on. You have a more power efficient AMOLED screen. Also, here is another SoT screenshot:

 

[Almeuit]

Wow! That is God damn impressive! Did you keep your display full brightness non-stop? That "hunk of time" was the night, because I shut my phone off and DO NOT keep it next to my bed. I also use mobile data with sub-optimum signal reception and keep my phone in airplane mode when I do not need the cell radio to be on. You have a more power efficient AMOLED screen. Also, here is another SoT screenshot://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180325/4806d2a494b33185734d648ccc809f7c.jpg

That SoT was it sitting on twitch overnight and a stream ended so it sat on doing nothing. I fell asleep while watching it.

That's why to me SoT isn't a good metric. It is the easiest thing to fabricate and SoT depends on what else the device is doing.

If I stream twitch at work on LTE I can rip the battery to under half in 3 to 4 hours.. but at home on wifi streaming for a few hours and then the stream stopping so the app stays awake but sits there basically idle.. still gives me SoT.

It just isn't a good stat to judge actual battery life.

 

[anon(10181084)]

Yeah, I know, but it can still be a quite good comparison between phones with really small batteries and really big ones. People have been reporting on XDA that the max SOT for the S9 is 3-4 hours, which can simply not be ignored. And yes, twitch drains you battery hugely because of your power hungry GPU. My SoT bragging is mainly because many phones, no matter what you do, last too short

 

[kramer5150]

I wish Android would display battery usage in units that are more straight up comparable.

 

[LuxuryTouringZone]

Not just Samsung, all the flagship manufacturers.

But then that would be potentially one less reason for people to "need" to replace their phone every other year. The OEMs and more importantly in the US, the carriers DON'T want that. They need us to sign up for a new payment plan every 2 years.

Whether they want it or not, people could still hang onto their smartphones, keep repairing them, buy the models, etc., if they really wanted to. Luckily for the manufacturers, not too many people do that.

 

[Tsepz_GP]

Wow! That is God damn impressive! Did you keep your display full brightness non-stop? That "hunk of time" was the night, because I shut my phone off and DO NOT keep it next to my bed. I also use mobile data with sub-optimum signal reception and keep my phone in airplane mode when I do not need the cell radio to be on. You have a more power efficient AMOLED screen. Also, here is another SoT screenshot://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180325/4806d2a494b33185734d648ccc809f7c.jpg

So in actual fact you do a whole lot of trickery to get the phone to last. Interesting.

Anyway my Galaxy Note8 does a good enough job for me, this is at 50% brightness due to the fact that the Note8 has a 1000nit display, it is actually brighter at 50% than most phones at 100% it is also a 6.3inch display, so this is brilliant, I am very happy, thanks.

 

[Tsepz_GP]

Sadly... flagship devices always come with entry level batteries. If you want a flagship device you have to learn to tolerate an entry level battery.

I have to disagree. The Huawei Mate10 Pro, Pixel 2 XL and some others come with generous capacity batteries.

Could battery life be better in Flagships? Sure, much like how a Top End SUV like a Range Rover, BMW X5 or Mercedes-Benz G Wagon could always use an even bigger fuel tank, as it will never be enough.

Until we get to a point where phones can last week's with heavy usage between a charge, this is where we are for now, and I must say given the power in these phones, I am shocked how long some of them manage to last. As long my phone can make it to bed time I am happy.

I am looking at this CAT S41 on GSMARENA, and other than the huge 5000mAh battery, this thing is old spec and has puny 5inch display, I would probably use it as a burner phone just for calls and texts.

 

[Lu99ke]

would prefer the vastly better processor and higher resolution screens that any flagship comes with and get 3-4 SOT ( with quick charging ) than what you are getting with the CAT phone... just saying.

 

[kramer5150]

The point is there's no reason consumers can not have more choices. To argue what one "needs" is pointless. We all have differing needs, so its an endless debate centered around subjective preference.

What's not disputable is the fact that there are not enough big battery-flagship options, particularly under the carrier umbrellas.

For $1000+ its inexcusable that we can't we have a galaxy S8 or Pixel variant with a ~5000 mah battery. The miniscule difference/increase in thickness won't matter. Is anyone complaining about the S8 active being too thick?... no. Are big battery mid-tier owners complaining about their phones being too thick... no.

You don't have to buy it if you don't like it... but to (practically) not even have the choice/option... thats whats wrong.