sorry for the gun jumping there. in every case i have done searches in the forums. most of the time its as you said, i read something in here or xda but did not understand how to make what i read happen. thats why when i figure something out or finally get it right i post step by step what i did so that everyone else will know exactly what i did, i figure its far more helpful that way. i also hate it when i put several hours over a couple of days into helping someone else out and then they dont let you know what happened. but i digress. there are a thousand questions i have found the answers to and obviously not posted. i dont do just general google searches for answers, if it doesnt come from here or xda i am very cautious of it. i know i can trust the info that i get here. i do realize i have posted many threads, and i will be more mindful of that in the future. i am sorry if i annoyed anyone. and most of all i am very greatful for all the help everyone here has been. these two forums have helped me turn a pos into a great phone. i try as much as i can to return the help i get. anyway, sorry, and thank you.