The Phone wars are over...Samsung just won

[JeffDenver]

But still. It loses a lot of "out-of-the-box" functionality over the regular S4.

We will have to see how it actually looks...but if it is a smoother less messy experience, I think that will appeal to a lot of people.

I know a lot of people with Galaxy S3 phones...mostly because I recommended them. I love the GS3's hardware. but Touchwiz is ugly and kinda clunky to use IMO, and that is what I hear people complaining about the most.

 

[Ry]

6) Hahahaha my bias is showing? Guy, I don't like Apple products, and I've never owned an iPhone. That said, you've shown throughout pages of this thread that you certainly don't have one clue what you're posting, and I like ignorant people as much as I like iPhone's.

Say anything nice about Apple in general gets you labeled around these parts.

7) I say specs don't matter to the general consumer. Specs don't matter in the way you wrongly think they do. Of course Apple will continue to update their products, but there is not need for Apple to build an iPhone that matches Android superphones spec-for-spec. As I've stated, and you've not understood, devices are about the experience and features.

I don't know why there are a lot of people here that don't understand this. To general consumers, this is so true. The actual spec doesn't really matter to general consumers. The experience does. While the actual specs play a part in how well the experience goes, it's not the main sticking point. To a general consumer, if a quad-core phone seems to perform the same everyday tasks as well as an octa-core phone does, the actual spec becomes irrelevant.

Buzzwords.

Throwing out numbers makes it seem like your compensating.

 

[Ry]

We will have to see how it actually looks...but if it is a smoother less messy experience, I think that will appeal to a lot of people.

I know a lot of people with Galaxy S3 phones...mostly because I recommended them. I love the GS3's hardware. but Touchwiz is ugly and kinda clunky to use IMO, and that is what I hear people complaining about the most.

But it loses what makes the Galaxy a Galaxy.

 

[greydarrah]

This thread needs to die off. Some people like the S4, some like the N4, and some like iphone. Who cares? Buy whichever one you want...they are all amazing. Why should anyone care what phone someone else wants to use?

 

[Ry]

This thread needs to die off. Some people like the S4, some like the N4, and some like iphone. Who cares? Buy whichever one you want...they are all amazing. Why should anyone care what phone someone else wants to use?

Then what would we discuss on the forums?

 

[strider2]

1) The entry level phones far outsell any one, single Android flagship. Yes, that's the reality. Android owns the market from budget entries. That's not an excuse, that's a reality.

2) Why are you obsessing with monthly or quarterly sales? I say to you, again, that no one Android phone has ever outsold an iPhone model. Do your research.

3) The GS4 is projected to hit 10 million... You realize that means it hasn't sold that amount, right? And, by the way, the GS4 is to compete with the upcoming iPhone model, but something tells me you'll be posting the second the GS4 outsells any iPhone model, and even if it's just for an hour.

4) If you haven't seen a commercial for the GS4 yet, I'll take that to mean you don't own a TV.

5) iPhone's will likely never compete with Android devices in terms of raw hardware. And they don't need to.

For the last time, features, marketing, and the experience of using a device are what drives sales. Are you reading this? Walk into any carrier store. Ask 5 customers what they think of the Snapdragon 600. Ask whether they prefer IPS displays or AMOLED displays. You're only kidding yourself if you think the general consumer knows, or cares, about what specific hardware is part of the device.

I don't think you're comprehending the difference between hardware specifications and actual features.

Hardware specifications don't matter, iPhone's are premium devices. Please wake up and understand this.

Understand that you love your iPhone. why are you posting in this sub-forum?
This is a Nexus 4 forum.
no offense...

 

[Ry]

Understand that you love your iPhone. why are you posting in this sub-forum?
This is a Nexus 4 forum.
no offense...

...

6) Hahahaha my bias is showing? Guy, I don't like Apple products, and I've never owned an iPhone. That said, you've shown throughout pages of this thread that you certainly don't have one clue what you're posting, and I like ignorant people as much as I like iPhone's.

 

[strider2]

...

what was that supposed to mean?

 

[Ry]

what was that supposed to mean?

That guy doesn't own an iPhone.

 

[JeffDenver]

That guy doesn't own an iPhone.

It was an easy mistake to make given his posts.

 

[RumoredNow]

This thread needs to die off. Some people like the S4, some like the N4, and some like iphone. Who cares? Buy whichever one you want...they are all amazing. Why should anyone care what phone someone else wants to use?

Then what would we discuss on the forums?

How about problems people are having with their phone and how those problems can be solved?

How about advancing the usability of the phones we have?

How about reviews of Apps to help others decide what App works best and has the functions they need/want?

[RANT]How about polite discourse as opposed to flame wars and name calling? How about real hardware/software comparisons without highly subjective braggadocio about who's is biggest? How about discourse that allows for the idea that no one device is right for everyone and all must embrace that device?

How about realizing when the dead horse needs no more whipping? [/RANT]


I'm out. Continue on for as many pages as you folks like. There is really nothing more for me to see here. Including replies to this post.

Peace.

 

[Ry]

[RANT]How about polite discourse as opposed to flame wars and name calling? How about real hardware/software comparisons without highly subjective braggadocio about who's is biggest? How about discourse that allows for the idea that no one device is right for everyone and all must embrace that device?

How about realizing when the dead horse needs no more whipping? [/RANT]

..guess the title of this thread intrigued you.

 

[strider2]

That guy doesn't own an iPhone.

Then why the ***K is he so madly supporting the iPhone when he doesnt even own one?
that too more about market share, sales etc..

 

[Ry]

Then why the ***K is he so madly supporting the iPhone when he doesnt even own one?
that too more about market share, sales etc..

If you own an Android phone, are you supposed to immediately dismiss any of the competition? lol.

 

[JHBThree]

Give me an example of any entry level phone that has outsold the Galaxy S3.


Because there are no budget iPhones, right? LOL

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You've already been proven wrong. "Samsung Galaxy S3 outsells iPhone for first time" - Samsung Galaxy S3 outsells iPhone for first time | CNET UK


I assume when the iPhone 5S (or whatever) comes out it will be competing with the not-yet-released Galaxy S5 then? Pull your pants up...you bias is showing.


Gee, you don't say. You do know it wasn't always like that, right? There was a time when the top iPhone always had the best CPU and best display and best camera.


You do not seem to take disagreement well. No need to get so worked up over an opinion.


If they did not matter, Apple would not bother upgrading it's specs every version. Apple does not appear to agree with you that specs don't matter.

Again, Samsung has never actually reported units sold. They only report units shipped. So no, the Galaxy s3 never outsold the iPhone.

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[JHBThree]

Oh good, then we agree that low end phones do not outsell high end phones.

Clearly you missed the revelation during the apple/Samsung trial that One low spec prepaid Samsung phone outsold ALL of the US Galaxy s2 variants combined.

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[JHBThree]

Then why the ***K is he so madly supporting the iPhone when he doesnt even own one?
that too more about market share, sales etc..

Maybe because he dislikes people that post patently false information as the truth? Maybe he dislikes fan boys that are so blinded by their hate of one company that they go to any lengths (including lying) to bash said company?

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[fernandezhjr]

We will have to see how it actually looks...but if it is a smoother less messy experience, I think that will appeal to a lot of people.

I know a lot of people with Galaxy S3 phones...mostly because I recommended them. I love the GS3's hardware. but Touchwiz is ugly and kinda clunky to use IMO, and that is what I hear people complaining about the most.

But remember, the typical consumer doesn't care about that. As long as they get their phone at a cheaper subsidized price and it works for them they will be happy. The don't care if it has Touchwhiz, Sense, or Motoblur. You already agreed with me on this in another thread. Now here you are implying that consumers complain about that and the GE S4 will sale good because of it, in complete contradiction to what you said before.

 

[TheLibertarian]

Oh good, then we agree that low end phones do not outsell high end phones.


It does if it is on permanent promotion. There are always iPhones being sold cheaply.


So angry.


Uh huh... Best camera phones - CNET Reviews .. The Galaxy S4 and HTC One both spank the iPhone 5.


If Apple agreed with you, they would not bother bumping their specs at all. Just sayin.

I don't think there's much left to discuss.

But, again, I enjoy you quoting only the minor segments of my posts hahah. Post back when you know what you're talking about.

Understand that you love your iPhone. why are you posting in this sub-forum?
This is a Nexus 4 forum.
no offense...

Are you illiterate?

Then why the ***K is he so madly supporting the iPhone when he doesnt even own one?
that too more about market share, sales etc..

Because it's ridiculous seeing people like knock on a company merely because you enjoy their rivals' products. Is the world too small a place that only one company may be praised while the rest are condemned?

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I'm genuinely stunned at the ignorance of some of you Android "fanboys" (really hate that word, my apologies).

I've never owned an iPhone. I've owned the OG Droid, the X, the X2, an S2, and some HTC EVO3D blah blah (I don't understand HTC's naming system), the DROID RAZR, and the Gnex. Now I own the Nexus 4, and it's by far and away the most enjoyable device I've ever owned.

That said, if you can't acknowledge that Apple makes a good product, you're another level of dumb.

Competition breeds excellence, so as much as I love Android, I wish the best for Apple because I want Android to continually be challenged.

If you can't grasp that concept, we have nothing left to discuss, I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

 

[Aquila]

The war is far from over. Samsung kinda-sorta won one battle. It's not over until it doesn't matter what kind of phone a person has, everything just works together and no one has to worry about lag, or horrible camera shots or I can't talk to so and so because they have an HTC WP8 device and I have a blackberry, data is measured as a positive (not an expenditure) and developers only have to make one app, not an Android app, an iOS app, a blackberry app, etc. When the consumers have won, the war will be over.