The Phone wars are over...Samsung just won

[Ry]

The Nexus 4 is still for sale. There will be a Nexus 5 later in the year so not all hope is lost for you.

Why is there an assumption that a Nexus 5 is coming?

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[Ry]

The S4 is made by Samsung and the N4 is made by LG. They both run Android. LG has never been in any phone war with Samsung. I would think HTC would be a closer competitor. With the N4, it was just a good opportunity for LG to show they can make a flagship device and Google to get more pure vanilla goodness out. Neither was interested in raping the consumer with this device. The whole title of this thread is redundant.

Historically Samsung and LG are rivals. They'll be in a war wherever they have similar products.

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[Ry]

The Nexus 4 was already selling out, and it was worse than the S4 in most ways. This has everything the N4 had plus more options plus (most importantly) the Galaxy branding.

Now we will no longer have to compromise on features/options or having vanilla Android. We can have both.

TouchWiz is a feature.

Samsung has probably already sold more S4s than Google has sold Nexus 4s.

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[chubb]

Why is there an assumption that a Nexus 5 is coming?

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Why wouldn't there be? Not soon but end of year like usual.

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[LegalAmerican]

The N4 is $350, the S4 is $650.
Advantage Nexus.

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Right. Advantage in price does go to the Nexus. Every other possible comparison couldn't be more in the S4's favor.

Everyone talks about how great Stock, Vanilla Android is and why the fast updates make everything worth it. Google gives them a great flagship device with all of these "must-haves" and suddenly everyone thinks it's a bad idea because "the general public wont care." Just goes to show that some people will never be pleased under any circumstance.

 

[chubb]

Just goes to show that some people will never be pleased under any circumstance.

Exactly. Just wait for the threads complaining when Google updates the Nexus immediately and the S4 G.E. has to wait two weeks like the Xoom.

What I'm starting to think we are one our way to the five Nexus or Nexus like devices like previously rumoured last year.

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[TheLibertarian]

Right. Advantage in price does go to the Nexus. Every other possible comparison couldn't be more in the S4's favor.

Everyone talks about how great Stock, Vanilla Android is and why the fast updates make everything worth it. Google gives them a great flagship device with all of these "must-haves" and suddenly everyone thinks it's a bad idea because "the general public wont care." Just goes to show that some people will never be pleased under any circumstance.

It's a great product.

I only stated, personally, as a grad student, there's nothing in that devices that warrants a $300 up charge from my Nexus 4.

I also don't believe this will be a massive seller or drastically change the game. It's more like Google and Samsung are saying, "Hey, thanks for all the revenue, in return, here's a treat we just cooked up." Just the way I look at it.

 

[SC1]

Wait so this isn't the Nexus 5? I like everything about this phone except the price. To me its not worth the $450 over a regular S4 that's on contract.

 

[chubb]

Wait so this isn't the Nexus 5? I like everything about this phone except the price. To me its not worth the $450 over a regular S4 that's on contract.

No. It is a Google Experience Device.

 

[LegalAmerican]

It's a great product.

I only stated, personally, as a grad student, there's nothing in that devices that warrants a $300 up charge from my Nexus 4.

I also don't believe this will be a massive seller or drastically change the game. It's more like Google and Samsung are saying, "Hey, thanks for all the revenue, in return, here's a treat we just cooked up." Just the way I look at it.

I can see that being the case as well. And I have a hard time seeing the reason to pay the difference as well, HOWEVER one of the biggest concerns about the Nexus 4 was the limited storage. Now, that is solved with the G.E S4. And, I know the Nexus 4 is an incredible price, but it's not like this new S4 is double the cost of all other phones. The Nexus 4 just so happens to be half the price of all the others. That's really awesome, but that doesn't mean the S4 has to be competitively priced.

 

[return_0]

Until now they've had to reason to...the best phones never ran Vanilla Android. Now that we have a true flagship phone without being neutered by google, i think we will see a significant change.

N4? You can't possibly say that wasn't the best phone when it came out.

 

[return_0]

You get what you pay for.

The S4 is exactly the same price range as any flagship phone. My HTC Rezound was $700 retail when it came out.

You get what you pay for? The N4 has zero lag, an ?ber-fast processor, an amazing screen (can't say that about the GS4's AMOLED), and a sexy design (again?).

 

[snookasnoo]

Nexus 4 has been easily available for awhile. it was only selling out when LG couldn't make enough because of quality control issues.
Hopefully this will get others to offer stock Android on their deices.

The Nexus 4 was already selling out, and it was worse than the S4 in most ways. This has everything the N4 had plus more options plus (most importantly) the Galaxy branding.

Now we will no longer have to compromise on features/options or having vanilla Android. We can have both.

 

[KitN]

Samsung S4 for $650 + shipping + tax and only 16GB for that price? No thanks!

I'm sticking with my N4 until a real upgrade to the Nexus smartphone line is released.

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[return_0]

Why is there an assumption that a Nexus 5 is coming?

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Lol, with the success Google's been getting with the Nexus line (I've already seen more N4s than Note 2s out in the wild), why would they stop the line now?

 

[TheLibertarian]

You get what you pay for? The N4 has zero lag, an ?ber-fast processor, an amazing screen (can't say that about the GS4's AMOLED), and a sexy design (again?).

True, but keep in mind Jeff Denver doesn't really have a firm grasp on what he's discussing.

Why is there an assumption that a Nexus 5 is coming?

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It is just an assumption. Then again, I assume there will also be a new iPhone model sometime in the future, just as I assume I'll wake up tomorrow and it will be Thursday.

But you're correct, we're all just making assumptions here as there's no concrete evidence supporting our guesses.

 

[chris2k5]

Most ignorant OP ever.

TouchWiz though laggy is superior to stock Jellybean. Come back when they do something different with Keylime. Android has looked the same since Gingerbread.

 

[OhioG]

I remember people saying, if they make a stock android phone with 1080p, sd card and removable battery, ill gladly pay more.

Now they have and everyone pissses their pants that it costs a lot more. The GS4 is a baller device. I just dont think that Samsung would sell it for lower than what they offer the S4 for or else they would cannibalize their profits

 

[thatotherdude24]

If it was available to all carriers no doubt Samsung won. I feel as hardware availability Apple is winning because they have made the iPhone available to a wide variety of carriers. Doesn't mean iOS is better or worse than Android or specs wise either is better, that's personal preference. But hardware availability goes to Apple.

 

[Ry]

True, it is just an assumption. Then again, I assume there will also be a new iPhone model sometime in the future, just as I assume I'll wake up tomorrow and it will be Thursday.

But you're correct, we're all just making assumptions here as there's no concrete evidence supporting our guesses.

I think there will be a new Nexus phone this fall. I'm not calling it a Nexus 5 though.

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