Thought this was funny and interesting.

[badbrad17]

Not very true at all.

Apple may be earning up to $1 billion this year from Google search on iOS devices | TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog

That's probably one of the key reasons why Google is working so hard on pushing its apps on IOS (arguably even moreso than on Android). The more people use their apps in place of IOS's default apps, the less they have to pay Apple (and the more profits they earn). No wonder Apple won't open up their webkit or allow other default apps.

I've never heard of this before. The article sounds a bit speculative. Not saying it's not true, but I can't imagine Google paying that much for being default search. People use Google because it's the best search engine. What would Apple use if they didn't use Google? Bing?

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[Slender Troll]

I've never heard of this before. The article sounds a bit speculative. Not saying it's not true, but I can't imagine Google paying that much for being default search. People use Google because it's the best search engine. What would Apple use if they didn't use Google? Bing?

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Probably Wolfram Alpha

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[anon5664829]

I've never heard of this before. The article sounds a bit speculative. Not saying it's not true, but I can't imagine Google paying that much for being default search. People use Google because it's the best search engine. What would Apple use if they didn't use Google? Bing?

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Yeah I mean Apple shouldn't even get in the search business unless they buy tonns of data bases.

 

[anon5664829]

Probably Wolfram Alpha

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Not a ridiculous idea....

 

[badbrad17]

Probably Wolfram Alpha

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Could you live with Wolfram instead of Google? Honestly I think if Google said screw you Apple would be in a bad place if they dropped Google. The maps thing didn't work out so well. This could be worse. Get an Android and get all that Google offers. That would be the easiest marketing campaign in history.

I've never understood why people always say that Google needs Apple because of the search traffic etc. They get it anyway. If Apple died then people would buy Android so Google gets it anyway.

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[Slender Troll]

Could you live with Wolfram instead of Google? Honestly I think if Google said screw you Apple would be in a bad place if they dropped Google. The maps thing didn't work out so well. This could be worse. Get an Android and get all that Google offers. That would be the easiest marketing campaign in history.

I've never understood why people always say that Google needs Apple because of the search traffic etc. They get it anyway. If Apple died then people would buy Android so Google gets it anyway.

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I know I would much rather use Google. What would be (possibly) better, is if Google purchased WA and integrated it into Google Now.

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[anon5664829]

Could you live with Wolfram instead of Google? Honestly I think if Google said screw you Apple would be in a bad place if they dropped Google. The maps thing didn't work out so well. This could be worse. Get an Android and get all that Google offers. That would be the easiest marketing campaign in history.

I've never understood why people always say that Google needs Apple because of the search traffic etc. They get it anyway. If Apple died then people would buy Android so Google gets it anyway.

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Apple are not stupid enough to replace Google search.

 

[Aquila]

A friend of mine who I had an immense amount of respect for decided to take her own life on Thursday. We had some pretty intense and deeply fulfilling debates about science and philosophy and this came out of somewhere I can't imagine she was every at. I never thought this would be a possibility for her because of their clarity of thought and passion for learning and living free. She was really one of the most intelligent people I've had the opportunity to know. I've always heard of people saying they didn't see it coming, but I couldn't imagine how. I guess people are better at hiding their darker feelings than I am. I'm shocked, and having a very hard time understanding how they got there to this point.

I'm really trying to joke around and to post to help people but it feels different. The world feels lessened and I can't honestly say I'm coming from the same perspective as before. As of right now I'm not sure if it's a good idea for me to continue posting, because I am concerned that some of my feelings about this might come out the wrong way in posts and I want to avoid that.

 

[anon5664829]

A friend of mine who I had an immense amount of respect for decided to take her own life on Thursday. We had some pretty intense and deeply fulfilling debates about science and philosophy and this came out of somewhere I can't imagine she was every at. I never thought this would be a possibility for her because of their clarity of thought and passion for learning and living free. She was really one of the most intelligent people I've had the opportunity to know. I've always heard of people saying they didn't see it coming, but I couldn't imagine how. I guess people are better at hiding their darker feelings than I am. I'm shocked, and having a very hard time understanding how they got there to this point.

I'm really trying to joke around and to post to help people but it feels different. The world feels lessened and I can't honestly say I'm coming from the same perspective as before. As of right now I'm not sure if it's a good idea for me to continue posting, because I am concerned that some of my feelings about this might come out the wrong way in posts and I want to avoid that.

Oh....wow, damn. I can't imagine anyone one I know thinking of that.

 

[SpiralBorg]

A friend of mine who I had an immense amount of respect for decided to take her own life on Thursday. We had some pretty intense and deeply fulfilling debates about science and philosophy and this came out of somewhere I can't imagine she was every at. I never thought this would be a possibility for her because of their clarity of thought and passion for learning and living free. She was really one of the most intelligent people I've had the opportunity to know. I've always heard of people saying they didn't see it coming, but I couldn't imagine how. I guess people are better at hiding their darker feelings than I am. I'm shocked, and having a very hard time understanding how they got there to this point.

I'm really trying to joke around and to post to help people but it feels different. The world feels lessened and I can't honestly say I'm coming from the same perspective as before. As of right now I'm not sure if it's a good idea for me to continue posting, because I am concerned that some of my feelings about this might come out the wrong way in posts and I want to avoid that.

I'm deeply sorry.
Continue posting, your a favoured poster in this forum, and a great one at that.
Ignore those people, share your opinion.

 

[Slender Troll]

Sorry for your loss.

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[Aquila]

 

[SpiralBorg]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/972082_10151638566417888_1631953342_n.jpg

That looks awesome.

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[abazigal]

Could you live with Wolfram instead of Google? Honestly I think if Google said screw you Apple would be in a bad place if they dropped Google. The maps thing didn't work out so well. This could be worse. Get an Android and get all that Google offers. That would be the easiest marketing campaign in history.

I've never understood why people always say that Google needs Apple because of the search traffic etc. They get it anyway. If Apple died then people would buy Android so Google gets it anyway.

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Remember, Google earns its revenue from people using their services (indirectly). It doesn't earn a cent from manufacturers bundling their Android OS in phones, nor does it receive a cut of sales of Android devices. Google could very well say 'screw you' to Apple and limit their apps and services to Apple, but it would simply be cutting off the nose to spite the face.

Android is simply a means to an end, rather than an end in itself. Currently, it seems that Google is earning more revenue from IOS than Android itself (though I profess I still need more evidence to back this up). Despite Android's immense market share, some studies are reporting that IOS still leads in areas like mobile web usage. Else, why are Google's apps for IOS much better than their Android counterparts? The way I intrepret it, the majority of Android users simply aren't using their phones (and by extension, Google's services) enough to make it profitable for Google, possibly because most of the Android phones sold are essentially dumbphones with specs so anaemic you can't do much on it anyways besides the basic sms/call/whatsapp.

It might also explain why Google disabled push for exchange in 2013 (to encourage users to use their gmail app).

Even today, I find it ironic that the iphone 3GS can run Google Now (and get the Google version of Siri), while the very same feature is limited to handsets running Android4.0 and above, which currently still account for a minority of total Android handsets worldwide.

Besides, isn't that what Apple is trying to do currently? Wean itself off Google? Apple was forced to implement maps despite its limitations exactly because Google withheld key features from maps. IOS6 removed youtube and google-maps. Using siri to search directs traffic to Wolfram, not Google. They already have twitter and facebook integration, and IOS7 is rumoured to bring flickr and vimeo integration (which I intepret as trying to draw traffic away from Google+ and youtube). Currently, the only indispensible app seems to be Google Drive, but only because google docs doesn't play well with mobile safari. Everything Apple is doing seems to be either hedging against the possibility that Google may one day just deny them its services, or showing Google the proverbial middle finger (just like how they are contracting TSMC to manufacture their processors instead of Samsung because the latter was using its monopolistic position to demand higher prices).

Begun the ecosystem wars have.

 

[Live2ride883]

A friend of mine who I had an immense amount of respect for decided to take her own life on Thursday. We had some pretty intense and deeply fulfilling debates about science and philosophy and this came out of somewhere I can't imagine she was every at. I never thought this would be a possibility for her because of their clarity of thought and passion for learning and living free. She was really one of the most intelligent people I've had the opportunity to know. I've always heard of people saying they didn't see it coming, but I couldn't imagine how. I guess people are better at hiding their darker feelings than I am. I'm shocked, and having a very hard time understanding how they got there to this point.

I'm really trying to joke around and to post to help people but it feels different. The world feels lessened and I can't honestly say I'm coming from the same perspective as before. As of right now I'm not sure if it's a good idea for me to continue posting, because I am concerned that some of my feelings about this might come out the wrong way in posts and I want to avoid that.

I am very sorry for your loss, I wish I could tell you that it gets easier over time. I guess in some ways it does. But I can promise you that you will NEVER stop missing your friend. One minute you might be laughing at something while talking to someone else, then something will be said that will make you think of her and you might start crying in front of a bunch of people that just won't understand.

Honor her memory, by remembering the good and bad times that you pulled each other through. Thank you for sharing this part of your life with us, I am sure that there are many of us that would be there for you if you choose to reach out through a PM or anything else.

 

[badbrad17]

Apple are not stupid enough to replace Google search.

I know that is why I find it hard to believe that Google is paying a billion dollars a year to Apple.

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[badbrad17]

A friend of mine who I had an immense amount of respect for decided to take her own life on Thursday. We had some pretty intense and deeply fulfilling debates about science and philosophy and this came out of somewhere I can't imagine she was every at. I never thought this would be a possibility for her because of their clarity of thought and passion for learning and living free. She was really one of the most intelligent people I've had the opportunity to know. I've always heard of people saying they didn't see it coming, but I couldn't imagine how. I guess people are better at hiding their darker feelings than I am. I'm shocked, and having a very hard time understanding how they got there to this point.

I'm really trying to joke around and to post to help people but it feels different. The world feels lessened and I can't honestly say I'm coming from the same perspective as before. As of right now I'm not sure if it's a good idea for me to continue posting, because I am concerned that some of my feelings about this might come out the wrong way in posts and I want to avoid that.

Terribly sorry to hear this. We have some very good friends who lost their son around 3 years ago with similar circumstances. He was popular, smart, the captain of the lacrosse team that performed nationally. He had scholarship opportunities. It seemed everything was prefect. Then a small altercation happened at school and he came home and ended it. Made no sense to anyone. The only thing anyone could figure was that he had perfectionist tendencies and couldn't deal with not being perfect.

He had so many friends he had inspired that it was almost unbelievable that this person could do this act. There were almost 1700 people at the funeral and people still continue to post on his memorial FB page years later.

It's so sad. I am feeling for you Matt. It's hard to deal with. Stay strong and keep being yourself. Venting and speaking to people really helps to heal.

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[badbrad17]

Remember, Google earns its revenue from people using their services (indirectly). It doesn't earn a cent from manufacturers bundling their Android OS in phones, nor does it receive a cut of sales of Android devices. Google could very well say 'screw you' to Apple and limit their apps and services to Apple, but it would simply be cutting off the nose to spite the face.

Android is simply a means to an end, rather than an end in itself. Currently, it seems that Google is earning more revenue from IOS than Android itself (though I profess I still need more evidence to back this up). Despite Android's immense market share, some studies are reporting that IOS still leads in areas like mobile web usage. Else, why are Google's apps for IOS much better than their Android counterparts? The way I intrepret it, the majority of Android users simply aren't using their phones (and by extension, Google's services) enough to make it profitable for Google, possibly because most of the Android phones sold are essentially dumbphones with specs so anaemic you can't do much on it anyways besides the basic sms/call/whatsapp.

It might also explain why Google disabled push for exchange in 2013 (to encourage users to use their gmail app).

Even today, I find it ironic that the iphone 3GS can run Google Now (and get the Google version of Siri), while the very same feature is limited to handsets running Android4.0 and above, which currently still account for a minority of total Android handsets worldwide.

Besides, isn't that what Apple is trying to do currently? Wean itself off Google? Apple was forced to implement maps despite its limitations exactly because Google withheld key features from maps. IOS6 removed youtube and google-maps. Using siri to search directs traffic to Wolfram, not Google. They already have twitter and facebook integration, and IOS7 is rumoured to bring flickr and vimeo integration (which I intepret as trying to draw traffic away from Google+ and youtube). Currently, the only indispensible app seems to be Google Drive, but only because google docs doesn't play well with mobile safari. Everything Apple is doing seems to be either hedging against the possibility that Google may one day just deny them its services, or showing Google the proverbial middle finger (just like how they are contracting TSMC to manufacture their processors instead of Samsung because the latter was using its monopolistic position to demand higher prices).

Begun the ecosystem wars have.

Great post. I think that if iphone users are using more Google search etc, I think it is only because Apple started the smartphone market. And although Android may lead overall, the places that are saturated with proper networks that can handle regular data use are isolated to first world countries. And Apple still dominates these markets. I would say that anything pre Samsung Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Nexus was still the dinosaur age for Android. It's only now that Android users are free to do so much.
But all this being said, people are people. Users are users. If someone who is using a ios device switched to Android they would still continue to use Google the same amount as when they used their ios phone. So I'm not sure how it matters to Google in the end. They certainly need to service all of the iPhone users but if Apple decides to pull the plug, they would be cutting off their nose to spite their face.

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[xlDeMoNiClx]

Great post. I think that if iphone users are using more Google search etc, I think it is only because Apple started the smartphone market. And although Android may lead overall, the places that are saturated with proper networks that can handle regular data use are isolated to first world countries. And Apple still dominates these markets. I would say that anything pre Samsung Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Nexus was still the dinosaur age for Android. It's only now that Android users are free to do so much.
But all this being said, people are people. Users are users. If someone who is using a ios device switched to Android they would still continue to use Google the same amount as when they used their ios phone. So I'm not sure how it matters to Google in the end. They certainly need to service all of the iPhone users but if Apple decides to pull the plug, they would be cutting off their nose to spite their face.

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BlackBerry started the smartphone market way before Apple made phones. Apple just brought them to a new level.

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[badbrad17]

BlackBerry started the smartphone market way before Apple made phones. Apple just brought them to a new level.

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Ya, I was generalizing.

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