Ubuntu on OV

[Dk564]

Has anyone put Ubuntu on there OV, and if so do you have any pointers, and how does it run?

 

[linus121]

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[zedorda]

Real_men_drink_at_spacebars.

 

[watskyhotsky]

ive read a little about it.

im really wishing for the day that I can come home, plug my phone into my PC monitor via HMDI, boot some "desktop" version of linux, and use a bluetooth mouse and keyboard and use my phone as a desktop pc.

that'd be great. wishful thinking.

 

[drezliok]

ive read a little about it.

im really wishing for the day that I can come home, plug my phone into my PC monitor via HMDI, boot some "desktop" version of linux, and use a bluetooth mouse and keyboard and use my phone as a desktop pc.

that'd be great. wishful thinking.

That would be awesome.

 

[watskyhotsky]

That would be awesome.

its not like its not actually doable on modern phones. a phone with bluetooth and HDMI out is capable of it, thats most of the ones on the market today. including the triumph.

full desktop functionality with only the requirement of bluetooth input devices and a larger monitor via hdmi.

no need for a specialized expensive laptop dock like the Atrix

 

[zedorda]

its not like its not actually doable on modern phones. a phone with bluetooth and HDMI out is capable of it, thats most of the ones on the market today. including the triumph.

full desktop functionality with only the requirement of bluetooth input devices and a larger monitor via hdmi.

no need for a specialized expensive laptop dock like the Atrix

I am nearly doing the same thing. I bought a bluetooth keyboard like 2 days ago and in like 3 weeks I am going to buy the Herotab C8+ which is a 7" tab with bluetooth-wifi-full usb host ports-HDMI out. I alrdy have the logitech G700 and its tiny wireless dongle is perfect for it. All costing less than $300 not including my OV which is going to be my internet access while mobile. It wont be the most powerful setup but it will do just about anything I want to do with it and if it cant I do have a full desktop for that stuff.

 

[LeslieAnn]

Intel Wireless display would be even nicer.

Personally, phones still lack the power needed for this.
Surfing, sure, no problem, but some things just require more power.

 

[watskyhotsky]

Intel Wireless display would be even nicer.

Personally, phones still lack the power needed for this.
Surfing, sure, no problem, but some things just require more power.

well a more comfortable internet experience for the home while not having to own an entire different device (desktop or laptop PC) would be the main point of this.

clearly the phone isnt going to run major desktop apps like photoshop CS5 or FL Studio. people who want stuff like that will get a machine for it.

itd just be nice to have a phone that has a desktop mode if you have the right accessories around. thatd be cool as hell

 

[LeslieAnn]

well a more comfortable internet experience for the home while not having to own an entire different device (desktop or laptop PC) would be the main point of this.

clearly the phone isnt going to run major desktop apps like photoshop CS5 or FL Studio. people who want stuff like that will get a machine for it.

itd just be nice to have a phone that has a desktop mode if you have the right accessories around. thatd be cool as hell

You are working backwards.
It may evolve that way in time, but for now, you are working from a backwards standpoint.

You aren't using a phone and adding a computer, you are trying to augment/replace your computer with your phone.


Trust me, the "death of the desktop" is HIGHLY over-rated. Experts have been declaring the desktop dead since before the desktop was even released. Every so often another "expert:" is in a rush to declare it dead. Gaming systems will kill the PC (Xbox)! Internet TV (MSN) will kill the desktop! Tablets will kill the desktop (Ipad). Phones will kill the desktop! And yet homes get more and more computers every year.

They aren't going anywhere, any time soon.

I get what you are after, and yes, for some it could work. The problem is that it can't fully replace it, and the moment you hit that wall, you realize you could have just been doing it on the PC from the start. The pc is sitting there, and does everything, so why start with a limited device only to have to switch over, when you could just do everything with the one machine. The pc you turn on, the phone you have to hook everything up.

 

[JerryScript]

The death of the desktop is a long way off. However, the rise of the cloud is definitely pushing it closer to the grave. I remember years ago using WebTV and being able to do 90% of what a desktop could do just by using online apps, ImageMagickStudio for graphics, my own javascript based spreadsheets, and lots of other online tools. This was when the concept of the cloud was in it's true infancy. Now days, with a good browser, you really could get rid of your desktop.

Microsoft bought WebTV and killed it, and I still almost cry when I think about it. :'(

Have a Great Day!
WbWzrd
^^my old WebTV sig^^

 

[LeslieAnn]

The death of the desktop is a long way off. However, the rise of the cloud is definitely pushing it closer to the grave. I remember years ago using WebTV and being able to do 90% of what a desktop could do just by using online apps, ImageMagickStudio for graphics, my own javascript based spreadsheets, and lots of other online tools. This was when the concept of the cloud was in it's true infancy. Now days, with a good browser, you really could get rid of your desktop.

The cloud... I HATE THAT freaking buzzword.
It's a website/server! Nothing more than a great way to charge more.

And I have news for people, the cloud isn't going to take over everything. Read up on the complaints over Google's laptop. That is a cloud based laptop. Go yank the internet connection of a cloud based company and listen to the screams. They did this same stuff back during the dot com boom and it failed for the same reasons it will this time. I work with lots of companies doing this sort of thing, and when their internet goes down, they FREAK!

It gets worse.
When these cloud severs start getting hacked (and they will), just watch what goes down. You think Sony was a target? Sure. How big is a target who hosts 20 fortune 500 companies entire infrastructure? Welcome to the cloud. Where all your data belongs to us... and the hackers who just stole all of it. One company is a target, 20 on one network is a goldmine.


Yes, you can do 90% of a computer on a Phone, or Web TV. The same applies to Linux, it does 90% of what Windows is capable of right out of the box. The problem is that last 10% is a nightmare to match. While you think 10% isn't a big deal, it is when you need it.

 

[JerryScript]

I don't use the cloud to store data, only to manipulate it. A good example from the WebTV days was ImageMagickStudio. You didn't store your images there, you just manipulated them, and you could do 80% of what PS could do at the time. Another good example from the WebTV days was creating Flash animations, which could be done using PHP's Ming module with just a browser, once again not storing but manipulating/creating (that's my old WebTV site, everything on there was created with cloud based services).

I don't believe in entrusting my data to publicly accessible servers, but I do wholeheartedly endorse using cloud based services to manipulate data of all types. Often, the servers are much more powerful than the PC/device you are accessing them from, or the workload is spread over several servers, and as such they can do things quicker.

A current example is UOT Kitchen. Sure, I can take the time to create a theme piece by piece, but it's so much more convenient to do it in UOT. Even though UOT has it's limitations, it will do 90% of what I want, and I can do the other 10% (at least 9% of that on my phone ).

 

[watskyhotsky]

leslieann you have good arguments.

in my opinion I think that the majority of things that most people actually DO on a computer can be done on a phone or tablet. thats why a phone that can give a desktop-like browsing experience would do well if it was more accessible. if the ABILITY to switch into a desktop mode when plugged into a monitor and bluetooth keyboard/mouse was available inside ice cream sandwich, itd be great for android as a whole.

I dont think life in the cloud is an actual reality in the near future. the quality of internet service coupled with bandwidth costs across most ISPs, wireless or landline, will effectively choke the "cloud" to death. people will avoid using services that have that kind of risk attached. of overage charges and caps.

phones cant replace desktops or PCs in general. not for a long long time anyways. I have a nice quad core dual 1080p monitor gaming desktop PC in my office that used to be my everything. now I only ever turn it on to game or work in apps that I cant really use on my other devices. (Photoshop CS5 for my photography, Renoise/FLStudio,VDJ for audio production, playing games like Mass Effect and stuff) for the day to day usage, its been abandoned in favor of my phone, a few tablets i had, and my netbook.

anyways back on topic, my argument was that a fairly sizable amount of people actually dont need an big desktop for the kinds of things they ever actually DO on it, and a one device that could be their go anywhere device and still offer a decent sit down experience at home would go over really well. even more so if that ability was baked into android, not one specialized phone like the Atrix. not saying its required to use the phone as BOTH, but HAVING the ability to do both I think would propel android to this new place and I know at least 2 dozen people on my own who would ditch their PC for one simple device.

hell most people own a DVI monitor, thats a $5 converter away from hdmi, which is how I hook my desktop to one of my monitors anyway

 

[bigsupersquid]

see these threads:
Installing Debian Squeeze on Android Optimus - Walkthrough - xda-developers
http://forums.androidcentral.com/optimus-v-rooting-roms-hacks/80286-running-ubuntu-parallel-android.html

i use my chroot debian install on my optimus regularly.
the android browser doesn't handle uploads or downloads well, but iceweasel (mozilla 3.5) does..
the list of apps in debian (all free) which have better functionality than their android counterparts could be excessive. root file manager with drag and drop, archive manager to manipulate files inside compressed archives, compilers, etc. the only issue I've had was file corruption on my SD card ext4 partition while manipulating boot.img's, and that was no longer a problem after reformatting the card with ext2.

 

[Doggydude]

You are working backwards.
It may evolve that way in time, but for now, you are working from a backwards standpoint.

You aren't using a phone and adding a computer, you are trying to augment/replace your computer with your phone.


Trust me, the "death of the desktop" is HIGHLY over-rated. Experts have been declaring the desktop dead since before the desktop was even released. Every so often another "expert:" is in a rush to declare it dead. Gaming systems will kill the PC (Xbox)! Internet TV (MSN) will kill the desktop! Tablets will kill the desktop (Ipad). Phones will kill the desktop! And yet homes get more and more computers every year.

They aren't going anywhere, any time soon.

I get what you are after, and yes, for some it could work. The problem is that it can't fully replace it, and the moment you hit that wall, you realize you could have just been doing it on the PC from the start. The pc is sitting there, and does everything, so why start with a limited device only to have to switch over, when you could just do everything with the one machine. The pc you turn on, the phone you have to hook everything up.

True that. I dont have to ever worry about my desktop/laptop leaving my house because of tablet or phone since Im a gamer, but seeing all the quirks tablets and phones have, however small, they will never replace desktops any time soon. they need to be perfected down to a science before that can happen. I mean some phones still have troubles with their capactive buttons. What would you do if your desktops keyboard was under sensitive? youd demand a refund, because desktops arent supposed to do that. Android is going to have to be around a lot longer before it gets even close to replacing any dedicated computer.