Updates like Apple

[Dooki]

If google can do it with the pixel why can’t Samsung do the same with their devices especially at the note 8 price point.

Google and Apple ignore carriers, Samsung been over and does whatever it's told

 

[Almeuit]

And yet all of my iOS devices (I have 4 of them) have gotten better with each update. More importantly, they're all more secure than every Android device in my house - at best, they're at least one month behind on security and at worst, one just now received a fix for KRACK. That's why I'm using an iPhone as my primary and be doing so for the foreseeable future

That's why I use Pixel phones .. same reason .

 

[Almeuit]

If google can do it with the pixel why can’t Samsung do the same with their devices especially at the note 8 price point.

See my previous post where I explained this point already .

 

[djrakowski]

That's why I use Pixel phones .. same reason .

Quite true! Google needs to make deals with carriers to get them in stores and keep them free of bloat, then support them as long as Apple supports its products. Then and only then would I consider switching back.

 

[Almeuit]

Quite true! Google needs to make deals with carriers to get them in stores and keep them free of bloat, then support them as long as Apple supports its products. Then and only then would I consider switching back.

We may see it one day. For now they partnered with Verizon (I assume for the advertising that Verizon does for them). They do keep it bloat free though. All the network stuff works for me on Verizon with this Pixel 2 XL and no unwanted apps. Even software stuff like Google dialer spam call notifications .

 

[anon(7901790)]

I posted this in a similar thread.

I don't think you understand the actual process. Apple submits its updates for testing and approval to each carrier. Once it gets approval from the carriers it then pushes the updates. It's all done in the background; users never see, the "sausage being made." Also, Apple does not send out monthly updates. If only does yearly OS version updates, and only pushes of "dot" updates when it finds a major bug. Which usually happens after it pushes out a version update.

Finally, Apple only supports one OS version (the latest) and it only has a few devices. When a new version of iOS is released, it stops sending out updates for earlier versions. The carriers only have to deal with Apple for ALL iOS devices. Where as Android is on a variety of devices made by a variety of OEMs. The carriers have to deal with multiple versions of Android made by several different OEMs. The OEMs, themselves have to support several devices as well as different versions of Android.

 

[Umbrokhan]

Even unlocked Samsung phones in UK get 6 to 7 months waiting list just for a major updates Android 8.0
doesn't matter if it carrier or unlocked still you have to wait for a very long time.
in UK carrier samsung phones get the update before the unlocked samsung phone.

 

[anon(7901790)]

Even unlocked Samsung phones in UK get 6 to 7 months waiting list just for a major updates Android 8.0
doesn't matter if it carrier or unlocked still you have to wait for a very long time.
in UK carrier samsung phones get the update before the unlocked samsung phone.

That is carrier dependent. I'm on Verizon and I've been getting monthly updates.

 

[magichoward]

Even unlocked Samsung phones in UK get 6 to 7 months waiting list just for a major updates Android 8.0
doesn't matter if it carrier or unlocked still you have to wait for a very long time.
in UK carrier samsung phones get the update before the unlocked samsung phone.

Same in most of Asia

 

[monil]

From what I have seen, US Carriers share a bulk load of blame for not pushing out updates in a timely manner. Check this:

https://security.samsungmobile.com/workScope.smsb
>>> This lists devices set to receive updates. However, if you see the (¹) marker for monthly updates, "¹ The list of monthly security update models are subject to change as support period expire.
Also, some carriers may only support quarterly updates for all applicable current models listed above."

Next, check https://security.samsungmobile.com/securityUpdate.smsb
>>> Samsung Mobile is releasing a maintenance release for major flagship models as part of monthly Security Maintenance Release (SMR) process. This SMR package includes patches from Google and Samsung.

Which means again Samsung is working on fire to get the security patches and updates in time. However, Carriers have the key to pushing it downstream to the end users.

Not trying to hijack the thread here. but, just trying to say that Samsung is NOT playing it bad with lax updates. I feel its the US Carriers which are to blame for the lot.

 

[Thejoey12]

I posted this in a similar thread.

I don't think you understand the actual process. Apple submits its updates for testing and approval to each carrier. Once it gets approval from the carriers it then pushes the updates. It's all done in the background; users never see, the "sausage being made." Also, Apple does not send out monthly updates. If only does yearly OS version updates, and only pushes of "dot" updates when it finds a major bug. Which usually happens after it pushes out a version update.

Finally, Apple only supports one OS version (the latest) and it only has a few devices. When a new version of iOS is released, it stops sending out updates for earlier versions. The carriers only have to deal with Apple for ALL iOS devices. Where as Android is on a variety of devices made by a variety of OEMs. The carriers have to deal with multiple versions of Android made by several different OEMs. The OEMs, themselves have to support several devices as well as different versions of Android.

this is true, however with apple, every year they release multiple phones with the exact same hardware, just different sizes. this makes it easier for them to create the updates in the first place. And as you said, all of their "updates" on ios11 have been to fix major issues. Like the phones' lack of ability to show the letter "i", which to me is absolutely pathetic. That is the one letter on that crap that should always work.

 

[magichoward]

Still no excuse... In most if Asia and other countries people buy unlocked phones like me re the note 8. No carrier.. So why not even a security update since January.. But in the USA via carriers most have Feb or March security...