sangs
Trusted Member
- May 9, 2015
- 1,004
- 0
- 0
V10 or 6P
- Thread starter only1canoli
- Start date
- Status
I'm just going to add a few things here. I won't dis anything, just point out plusses;
6p - works with hearing aids. Fantastic sound. Great screen. Small and slim for it's screen size. Light. Fingerprint reader (which I thought would be a gimmick) works GREAT. Very good camera. Easy to find controls. Looks gorgeous - I skinned mine to keep it slim and show it off. USB-C (ok, that's both a plus and minus). Fast charges on my Qualcomm fast charging compliant chargers. Good battery. Comes with Android 6 and gets instant updates - I love Marshmallow. It probably stole all my personal data and sold it to a drug lord in Elbonia or something, but I think the only OS that doesn't do that at this point is BB10. And even that I'm not prepared to swear to.
V10 - great screen. Grippy body. Good performance. Some folks reported stutters. I never noticed them. Awesome camera. OK sound. Rear controls - I like LGs rear controls a lot! Imposing
Good battery.
When I say "good" battery, my standard is Droid Maxx. Now *that's* battery life.
I left out the SD card and swappable battery because I don't care either way at this point. IMHO - and it's just mine - the 6p has by far the best combination of price, performance and looks you can get today. I did put Nova launcher on it because I like lots of icons on my home screen. But really it doesn't need it for anything else. I also put Chomp SMS on it because that's what I like. Also TextMail since it handles mail better than the stock app. OK - one dis; I do *strongly* dislike the stock dialer on Android, but I would be OK with it if they allowed a dark theme.
6p - works with hearing aids. Fantastic sound. Great screen. Small and slim for it's screen size. Light. Fingerprint reader (which I thought would be a gimmick) works GREAT. Very good camera. Easy to find controls. Looks gorgeous - I skinned mine to keep it slim and show it off. USB-C (ok, that's both a plus and minus). Fast charges on my Qualcomm fast charging compliant chargers. Good battery. Comes with Android 6 and gets instant updates - I love Marshmallow. It probably stole all my personal data and sold it to a drug lord in Elbonia or something, but I think the only OS that doesn't do that at this point is BB10. And even that I'm not prepared to swear to.
V10 - great screen. Grippy body. Good performance. Some folks reported stutters. I never noticed them. Awesome camera. OK sound. Rear controls - I like LGs rear controls a lot! Imposing
Good battery.When I say "good" battery, my standard is Droid Maxx. Now *that's* battery life.
I left out the SD card and swappable battery because I don't care either way at this point. IMHO - and it's just mine - the 6p has by far the best combination of price, performance and looks you can get today. I did put Nova launcher on it because I like lots of icons on my home screen. But really it doesn't need it for anything else. I also put Chomp SMS on it because that's what I like. Also TextMail since it handles mail better than the stock app. OK - one dis; I do *strongly* dislike the stock dialer on Android, but I would be OK with it if they allowed a dark theme.
My one criterion in this fight is SD card slot. In that respect, Nexus loses every time.
I would like the best of both worlds: card slot AND carrier unlocked with full carrier compatibility (T-Mobile). That would be Blackberry Priv. But I found a T-Mobile V10 barely used for $300, so here I am.
So the takeaway is, if you can find the V10 at a price significantly lower than retail--shoot, even LG acknowledge that they had to start the sales ball rolling with free 200GB card ($$$$) and battery--then it's a real contender against 6P.
The biggest complaint is that LG doesn't sell factory unlocked and factory updated here in the US. It's all carrier-based, and we ALL know what that means. So yes, the Nexus line is better future-proofed--which simply means, don't pay so much for the V10 and be prepared to dump it early as your own proofing against the future.
I've settled on Google Launcher for my V10; it really doesn't matter what LG shipped it with...
Not sure what that means, but the Price isn't even on my radar. Way below top 10 options for me.
It's interesting that much of your disdain of removable batteries comes from what other people do with them. Why is that any concern of yours? If you choose never to remove the battery, if you choose to treat it as a permanent battery, then half of your argument above goes away.
And I'm thinking that the resources that would have been spent in developing better software, would have gone into developing a completely custom shape battery that would maximize available power storage--so a permanent battery wouldn't at all give you a better phone. It's much easier for the manufacturer to go to a battery manufacturer and say, "give me one this rectangular size" and leave it at that as compared to doing what Apple did and developing a completely custom weird shape thingy. Resources are resources, and custom battery design requires resources a rectangle doesn't.
As for card slot, the V10 pairs up the SIM and the SD card slots. They stack, SD on top of the SIM.
And I'm thinking that the resources that would have been spent in developing better software, would have gone into developing a completely custom shape battery that would maximize available power storage--so a permanent battery wouldn't at all give you a better phone. It's much easier for the manufacturer to go to a battery manufacturer and say, "give me one this rectangular size" and leave it at that as compared to doing what Apple did and developing a completely custom weird shape thingy. Resources are resources, and custom battery design requires resources a rectangle doesn't.
As for card slot, the V10 pairs up the SIM and the SD card slots. They stack, SD on top of the SIM.
LOL!! Dare you to head to Crackberry and voice that opinion!
It just occurred to me: the reason that V10 has a card slot is because it's designed, specifically, to appeal to content creators--those taking and editing pictures and movies. And that stuff requires a LOT of storage.
Me, I bought a 128GB card and stuck it in there, then immediately told my camera to store stuff there--and I then installed HERE Maps and downloaded the entire US for offline use, stored--you guessed it--on the SD card. (Offline because I'm on T-Mobile, and you know what they say about T-Mobile. And it's true.)
I probably could get away with using nothing more than the internal 64GB for what I do, but still. I just like external storage. What can I say.
The V10 is what I would probably get to replace my BlackBerry Passport if the wireless companies in Canada were going to carry it. So far, I've seen no plans they intend to, although the Black Friday cut-rate prices on LG G4's would seem to suggest they might be clearing out G4's in preparation for the arrival of the V10.
My point was, the Blackberry Priv--Android based now, in case you haven't been paying attention--meets ALL of your requirements that you listed. Every one of them.
I got the V10. I came from the Note 4. The V10 is pretty similar in size and weight to the Note 4, so that wasn't an issue. I have had Samsung phones for the past 3.5 years solid (S3, S4, S5, Note 4). When they removed the SD Card expansion in the Note 5, I was out. Since I rely so heavily on expandable SD Card, 6P was out. I also JUST got the Qi wireless charging back for the V10. Another reason the 6P was out for me, no Qi wireless charging. The V10 is excellent. If you liked the Note 4, the V10 is for you. I love the 2nd screen. The camera is very good, but it does lag a little when taking a picture. That is probably the only thing I miss from the Note 4. If the Note 5 had expandable SD, I would have stayed with Samsung. But, I am very happy with my V10. AND, I got it in time for the 200GB SD card AND Best Buy 24" TV. I sold them both to pay for the early payoff of my Note 4. I would have preferred to buy stock Android (love my Nexus 7), but not having expandable SD, costing more to buy more internal memory for the 6P and lack of Qi wireless charging made the 6P a NO GO for me. V10 all the way!
Ignore everything you've read here and pick up a note 5. Best camera, best screen awesome battery, premium build, tons of accessories and it can be bought for the same price as the 6p.
Posted via the Android Central App
Posted via the Android Central App
Well, if you go over to Crackberry and look me up you will find I have lots of posts there. But not lately because you simply cannot criticize anything. They are worse than Apple fanboys. I've been a BB user since the 8330 and they are one company I will feel sorry for if they die, but *if* they did, the death would be a result of their management stupidity and shortsightedness. Yeah, I'm bitter. I cut my teeth on BB. Anyway, back to the point. You may be right, but I think it more likely that with that brick of a phone getting the SD card in was easier. So they did it. I don'teven really buy my own argument since there are some pretty clever designs to get both the SIM and SD card on the same holder, so I suspect that if Google felt strongly enough about it they could have done it. As for the Priv thing. I think you kinda missed the point about non-removable batteries. The main point made was the phones mechanical integrity is a lot easier to design in if you don't have to make the battery removable. Plus the battery can be a shape to take better advantage of the volume available, which means it can be bigger for a given body size. Bigger means longer life.
Sorry, I meant the "Priv" not "Price" - I know what it is, but it has its own mess of problems, loses out to the 6P on everything I care about (design, software, security, storage options) and comes with a humongous price tag, starting at 40% more expensive. Priv has a decent camera, good battery life and software that looks stock-ish. But it has bad software, is much less secure, a physical keyboard (huge minus for me), a screen curved on the edges, has less than ideal materials (the back), giant bezels, starts a software generation behind with no positive outlook for consistent security updates or general firmware updates, etc, etc. It's definitely the best blackberry ever made and has a huge following, but for what I am looking for it's way behind the rest of the newest generation of devices.
But they took out the 2 key features, removable SD card and battery. That was a deal breaker for me. It was not fun leaving Samsung in the dust, but they brought it on themselves. I'm hoping in the Note 6, they return those 2 features, then I will go back.
But they took out the 2 key features, removable SD card and battery. That was a deal breaker for me. It was not fun leaving Samsung in the dust, but they brought it on themselves. I'm hoping in the Note 6, they return those 2 features, then I will go back.
They *may* go back to an SD card. As I noted elsewhere there are some really slick designs that jam that card in the same slot as the SIM card. As for battery, I suspect lack of removable battery is going to be commonplace since everyone (read "marketing") want phones thinner every generation. Hey - fun fact! Remember when SD cards were going to go away because the cloud - driven by ever cheaper data plans - was going to make it obsolete???? What happened to that?
- Status
Similar threads
Trending Posts
-
-
Repeated failure to update Google Play system update- Started by jtfwTX
- Replies: 1
-
Question note8 wiped clean but can't get into phone to set it up
- Started by annamagnani
- Replies: 5
-
-
Facebook
Twitter
Instagram