Verizon bloat removable?

[FaTROBoT97]

I don't understand. Why not just buy it from Google? It'll work on Verizon and it'll be unlocked.

Reason why some on Verizon will go through Verizon is because of financing. Plus if you trade in a phone worth at least $1 they'll take $200 off the phone. (Credited monthly for 24 months) And the highest of majority people that will buy this phone on Verizon could not care about an unlockable bootloader.

 

[Ry]

If you are on Verizon, My Verizon is an easy way to monitor your data usage and account. And there message app isn't half bad. I don't like Allo. The other thing is pointless garbage but if I can remove it instead of just disabling it, that would be great.

Verizon's messaging app is seriously underrated.

 

[Ry]

I don't understand. Why not just buy it from Google? It'll work on Verizon and it'll be unlocked.

I don't understand why people are upset about Verizon.

It's in Google and Android's best interest to get the Pixels in front of as many people as possible. This carrier partnership can do that.

 

[Joe the Insider]

Every carrier does bloatware. Get over it. At least Verizon put up the money to bring the Pixel to its customers while sad and pathetic t mobile and sprint do nothing. I don't want to hear the argument the Google store version works on those networks, because 90% can't afford to pay full price, some don't want to ding their credit and some won't even get approved. Verizon is making it easy it's customers to get one.

Also, you can't even order a pixel on the G Store and when they become available, They are shipping after Thanksgiving. You can literally pick one up at Verizon Thursday or even order it now and get it Thursday.

All because of a few apps that believe or not a lot of customers actually use and a locked bootloader?

Seriously, The whole let's hate Verizon is getting Old. Remember, Verizon's network is good, because they put money back into the network hence why they are more expensive while the others sit back and SLOWELY update theirs.

Verizon isn't perfect, But no carrier is.

 

[Joe the Insider]

I don't understand why people are upset about Verizon.

It's in Google and Android's best interest to get the Pixels in front of as many people as possible. This carrier partnership can do that.

Excellent point, Verizon believes in Google. They are really excited about having the Pixel and believe it or not, Verizon doesn't care for Apple, Because how much Apple wants for every phone sold.

Remember who brought you Droid and we'll look back and remember who brought you Pixel.

 

[RB-11]

Verizon's messaging app is seriously underrated.

I agree, it'seems not a bad app.

 

[Aquila]

The Pixels bought from Google have the exact same bloatware when activated on Verizon.

Disabling and removing the apps doesn't matter much because the space they take up is never available to the user for storage.

All three Verizon apps are uninstallable. Some of Google's bloatware is not.

 

[lxa3894]

Would you guys happen to know how the phone will work if bought from verizon but activated on Tmobile. I am assuming that the verizon bloatware wont come on the phone if activated from google. If not its easily uninstallable. And the bootloader I can unlock it myself? Correct me if I am wrong. Only reason why I am asking is because I actually wasnt planning on buying the Pixel but I just recently got irrepairable damage to my nexus 6p and need a phone now. Current google site says 4-5 weeks from today for delivery which I can not deal without a phone for that long. If I buy it from verizon and uninstall the apps and unlock the bootloader it should all be fine and dandy correct?

Thanks

 

[Almeuit]

At least Verizon put up the money to bring the Pixel to its customers while sad and pathetic t mobile and sprint do nothing.

But AT&T isn't pathetic for not doing it as well? I sense some biased feelings ^_^.

Every carrier does bloatware. Get over it.

This I can agree on. They all def. do it and AT&T is actually one of the worst about it with phones they sell.

 

[xocomaox]

The Pixels bought from Google have the exact same bloatware when activated on Verizon.

Disabling and removing the apps doesn't matter much because the space they take up is never available to the user for storage.

All three Verizon apps are uninstallable. Some of Google's bloatware is not.

While you are correct about the storage being unavailable to the user, all of them are available to be uninstalled as you can root the Google Pixel purchased outside of Verizon.

 

[dpham00]

Every carrier does bloatware. Get over it. At least Verizon put up the money to bring the Pixel to its customers while sad and pathetic t mobile and sprint do nothing. I don't want to hear the argument the Google store version works on those networks, because 90% can't afford to pay full price, some don't want to ding their credit and some won't even get approved. Verizon is making it easy it's customers to get one.

Also, you can't even order a pixel on the G Store and when they become available, They are shipping after Thanksgiving. You can literally pick one up at Verizon Thursday or even order it now and get it Thursday.

All because of a few apps that believe or not a lot of customers actually use and a locked bootloader?

Seriously, The whole let's hate Verizon is getting Old. Remember, Verizon's network is good, because they put money back into the network hence why they are more expensive while the others sit back and SLOWELY update theirs.

Verizon isn't perfect, But no carrier is.

Let's just be honest for a second. Verizon is offering the pixel because it is in their best interest. Period. They might spin it whichever way but that's the truth. Google might have offered them better terms than Apple and they could be using this to wean people off of Apple. Who knows exactly... But what I do know is it isn't out of the goodness of their hearts.

 

[briischamp]

The Pixels bought from Google have the exact same bloatware when activated on Verizon.

Disabling and removing the apps doesn't matter much because the space they take up is never available to the user for storage.

All three Verizon apps are uninstallable. Some of Google's bloatware is not.

They are not "uninstallable". I uninstalled 2/3 of the Verizon apps this morning (I kept the My Verizon app).

 

[Aquila]

They are not "uninstallable". I uninstalled 2/3 of the Verizon apps this morning (I kept the My Verizon app).

I meant that they can be uninstalled. Not sure if we're saying the same thing or not.

 

[briischamp]

I misread that! Sorry.

 

[Ry]

Let's just be honest for a second. Verizon is offering the pixel because it is in their best interest. Period. They might spin it whichever way but that's the truth. Google might have offered them better terms than Apple and they could be using this to wean people off of Apple. Who knows exactly... But what I do know is it isn't out of the goodness of their hearts.

Let's just be honest. ALL of these companies, carriers, smartphone OEMs, Google - they're doing all of this for their best interests, not ours.

 

[Feldon]

Every carrier does bloatware. Get over it.

My AT&T Samsung Galaxy S5 is basically an unusable piece of crap as a result of carrier bloatware. I can barely make phone calls. Text messages fail half the time. It lags like crazy. Going to do ANOTHER backup and factory reset today (I did one approx 1 year ago) to see if i can get the phone in a barely usable state. Don't say that bloatware doesn't matter.

 

[ggendel]

Seriously, The whole let's hate Verizon is getting Old. Remember, Verizon's network is good, because they put money back into the network hence why they are more expensive while the others sit back and SLOWELY update theirs.

I can't agree with you on this and neither do the analysts. Verizon's Q3 report was the worst in 6 years in terms of new net connections and the bulk of those were because of customers adding new devices. I convinced my whole company to leave Verizon because of their mishandling of security updates. After 12 years we've had enough. The differences between coverage, reliability, and performance no longer warrants the condescending customer care. In our case, for 6 months we couldn't get someone to say whether they would or would not provide the missing 321 vulnerability patches (listed in the NIST CVE bulletins) that put our private information at risk. They had the patches but wouldn't push them to the phones.

 

[Joe the Insider]

I can't agree with you on this and neither do the analysts. Verizon's Q3 report was the worst in 6 years in terms of new net connections and the bulk of those were because of customers adding new devices. I convinced my whole company to leave Verizon because of their mishandling of security updates. After 12 years we've had enough. The differences between coverage, reliability, and performance no longer warrants the condescending customer care. In our case, for 6 months we couldn't get someone to say whether they would or would not provide the missing 321 vulnerability patches (listed in the NIST CVE bulletins) that put our private information at risk. They had the patches but wouldn't push them to the phones.

While I don't blame you for being upset about security patches and what not, Verizon's Coverage and Speed is superior. From a business standpoint, Verizon has to Do a better Job, But There's a reason Verizon has so many connections.

 

[ggendel]

While I don't blame you for being upset about security patches and what not, Verizon's Coverage and Speed is superior. From a business standpoint, Verizon has to Do a better Job, But There's a reason Verizon has so many connections.

http://www.investors.com/news/technology/verizon-stock-falls-q3-revenue-and-wireless-subscribers-disappoint/

As for coverage, here in "Verizon" country (East Coast), Verizon comes dead last in coverage in my area, worse than Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T. As for subscribers, AT&T is less than 9% smaller than Verizon as of last quarter and gained again this quarter. The real problem with Verizon is that they don't seem to see that the competition has been gaining at their expense. All three of the other carriers made significant gains this quarter.