Please leave this forum if you're going to keep making off topic posts. We get it, you like T-Mobile.
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Verizon Launch Delayed..(rumors)
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Please leave this forum if you're going to keep making off topic posts. We get it, you like T-Mobile.
Yeah... Moto-2, me-. 5 lol
Good thing I still like both my xoom and Bionic, but I will be damned if I got a moto product without something not happening timely (xoom 4g upgrade) or happening far too Damn quick (razr> bionic) Lmao.
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Good thing I still like both my xoom and Bionic, but I will be damned if I got a moto product without something not happening timely (xoom 4g upgrade) or happening far too Damn quick (razr> bionic) Lmao.
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All due respect to P3Droid but please understand the power of the Internet/rumor that you carry. I'm not damning P3Droid but....When P3Droid post that he has the specs of the Nexus in June with a November release and then says that bloggers are just following what he said. Then says....well now....I know why VZW didn't say anything. Then we wonder why there is a rumble. Seriously? Either you know something or you've heard something. MAKE A DISTINCTION! If you are going to brag one minute and speak in enigmas the next minute you are going to have to forgive the riots.
Panda, know this and tell your Google colleagues....for every day past November 3rd that the Galaxy Nexus is not released on VZW, I will destroy an innocent Nexus S. Be warned.
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I wont speak for P3 but I appreciate that.. I dont do it for the fame but a thank you means a lot.
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OOO nooo... don't EVER start giving the carriers credit for doing something right.. having been apart of their world at a high level trust me when i say... never give them credit because they dont deserve it.. keep them honest by talking with your purchases and your word of mouth..
just because they do something right this time.. doesnt mean they arent planning a sneak attack the next.. lol
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LOL I couldn't have said it any better myself. I will say though I finally do feel like Verizon has listened to us by giving us the Galaxy Nexus. But I will NEVER EVER give them credit, I feel llike we are OWED this device since all we got is crappy devices all year! (not really owed but it's the least they could do for us)!!!!!
thanks for posting this! looking forward to the nexus, when it shows up, but hey, i'd rather it be right than a week or two rushed out!
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I feel they owe it to me for all of the Thunderbolt mistakes. I swear I will never get another HTC phone because of them and the constant reboots for 6 weeks almost made me leave Verizon. It seriously took them that long to fix that stupid update.
For me this isn't about the phone. Its about businesses continually limiting my choices. What happened to fighting for my "ol mighty dollar"? So tired of people bending over and taking what companies want to give. And instead of demanding more, we turn around, smile, and ask for more. I want the standards raised. I will be one that takes my three lines and go to who will support what I want (Android)
If part of your "scoop" includes the words "details are sketchy" then maybe that's a sign you shouldn't be posting it.
What essentially happened tonight:
1) Post on your blog/forum/whatever something intended to create a #@$%storm
2) complain when #@$%storm actually happens
3) ???
4) Profit!
It's about having journalistic integrity and being responsible for what you write. You can't write some sketchy rumor and then complain that the device is too hyped - don't you understand that what YOU WROTE contributes to the hype?
Thankfully we have our panda trying to calm things down. But he shouldn't have to. It comes down to having good sense and making sure you have something concrete beyond "sketchy details" before posting something that you KNOW will cause the community to get into a tizzy.
What essentially happened tonight:
1) Post on your blog/forum/whatever something intended to create a #@$%storm
2) complain when #@$%storm actually happens
3) ???
4) Profit!
It's about having journalistic integrity and being responsible for what you write. You can't write some sketchy rumor and then complain that the device is too hyped - don't you understand that what YOU WROTE contributes to the hype?
Thankfully we have our panda trying to calm things down. But he shouldn't have to. It comes down to having good sense and making sure you have something concrete beyond "sketchy details" before posting something that you KNOW will cause the community to get into a tizzy.
Are you nuts? Did you not see the ICS debut? What Android has done with ICS makes it much more than just a vanilla experience. You really think after people see what Android has become with ICS only 400-500 people want this phone?
what? Like Apple does? It hit 4 US carriers for the first time a couple of days ago!!! It's been out for 4 years and didn't hit its 2nd US carrier (VZW) until this year! Nice example.
edit* meant to type year instead of month!
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I heard from my super secret ninja friends and my crystal ball that it'll hit verizon when it does
Seems most of the posts here, including the OP, forget a particularly important detail:
Neither Google nor Samsung have the mainstream marketing power to push the Nexus to the forefront. They can't position it as the premiere Android device. Samsung can push it as a high end device, but won't be able to drive it all the way to the top. Only a concentrated effort by Samsung and Verizon both can accomplish that (not unlike the original Droid and the massive advertising campaign that went into that). In a sense, whether or not the masses care about the Nexus is entirely up to the effort Verizon puts into it. That's a scary thought to me, and I work for Verizon.
ICS and the new features it brings to the table can be launched to great effect as revolutionary upgrade. To steal from Apple, "This changes everything." Because it really does. I look at 4.0 vs 2.3 and it's hardly even a comparison anymore. It feels like the past two years of Android have just been beta testing. And it needs to be pitched that way! And pitched hard! Cause all the specs, and feature lists, and press conferences in the world don't matter if you can't pitch a mainstream advertising campaign that captures the attention of the mass consumer.
It's the single biggest reason why Apple can do with one phone what Google has to use hundreds of phones to beat. Marketing. I never understood how an advertising company could suck so terribly at advertising their product. Then again, Google doesn't need to care which android phone sells, so long as it's an android. So i guess there's that.
Neither Google nor Samsung have the mainstream marketing power to push the Nexus to the forefront. They can't position it as the premiere Android device. Samsung can push it as a high end device, but won't be able to drive it all the way to the top. Only a concentrated effort by Samsung and Verizon both can accomplish that (not unlike the original Droid and the massive advertising campaign that went into that). In a sense, whether or not the masses care about the Nexus is entirely up to the effort Verizon puts into it. That's a scary thought to me, and I work for Verizon.
ICS and the new features it brings to the table can be launched to great effect as revolutionary upgrade. To steal from Apple, "This changes everything." Because it really does. I look at 4.0 vs 2.3 and it's hardly even a comparison anymore. It feels like the past two years of Android have just been beta testing. And it needs to be pitched that way! And pitched hard! Cause all the specs, and feature lists, and press conferences in the world don't matter if you can't pitch a mainstream advertising campaign that captures the attention of the mass consumer.
It's the single biggest reason why Apple can do with one phone what Google has to use hundreds of phones to beat. Marketing. I never understood how an advertising company could suck so terribly at advertising their product. Then again, Google doesn't need to care which android phone sells, so long as it's an android. So i guess there's that.
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Yes. This device needs to be available to anyone. It's good enough to make a big noise when it hits and the more that can get it the better. If I had the cash but used Boost mobile, i should be able to get this phone.
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I think they have plenty of both. And overseas, it's been used to great effect, given how well the GS2's sold, worldwide.
I just feel that it's not enough. I feel that it needs even more than they've given it so far. Samsung is struggling to shake off the early bad reputation they earned themselves with poor quality and buggy devices. Their launch of the Galaxy S series, for all their efforts to promote it, was pretty underwhelming in the states, and on Verizon especially, they're playing a heavy game of catch-up:
The Epic 4G was overshadowed by the EVO.
The Captivate suffered a nasty GPS bug that drove AT&T salesmen to pretend the phone didn't exist when talking to customers.
The Galaxy S 4G on T-Mobile did alright, if you overlook how scorned Vibrant customers were for having a 4G version launch less than 3 months later.
The Fascinate suffered from so many bugs that I have yet to meet an owner who isn't upset with the phone. Worse yet, no phone has come out yet on Verizon to shake that bad stigma (outside of the Charge, which is admittedly a great phone that is often overlooked thanks to the Thunderbolt)
GS2 is changing that game up a bit, (reports of it being "the best android phone in the world" are starting to spread) but then it didn't come out on Verizon. And the Galaxy Nexus is different enough (thanks to ICS) that it can't exactly ride on the coat tails of that marketing campaign. And the Nexus NEEDS heavy marketing if it's going to be the flagship we all want it to be.
I'm sorry, I just don't see Samsung pulling it off. Not between their other endeavors, the bad rap they're still trying to shake off in America, or the price tag involved with giving the Nexus the promotion it needs.
I just feel that it's not enough. I feel that it needs even more than they've given it so far. Samsung is struggling to shake off the early bad reputation they earned themselves with poor quality and buggy devices. Their launch of the Galaxy S series, for all their efforts to promote it, was pretty underwhelming in the states, and on Verizon especially, they're playing a heavy game of catch-up:
The Epic 4G was overshadowed by the EVO.
The Captivate suffered a nasty GPS bug that drove AT&T salesmen to pretend the phone didn't exist when talking to customers.
The Galaxy S 4G on T-Mobile did alright, if you overlook how scorned Vibrant customers were for having a 4G version launch less than 3 months later.
The Fascinate suffered from so many bugs that I have yet to meet an owner who isn't upset with the phone. Worse yet, no phone has come out yet on Verizon to shake that bad stigma (outside of the Charge, which is admittedly a great phone that is often overlooked thanks to the Thunderbolt)
GS2 is changing that game up a bit, (reports of it being "the best android phone in the world" are starting to spread) but then it didn't come out on Verizon. And the Galaxy Nexus is different enough (thanks to ICS) that it can't exactly ride on the coat tails of that marketing campaign. And the Nexus NEEDS heavy marketing if it's going to be the flagship we all want it to be.
I'm sorry, I just don't see Samsung pulling it off. Not between their other endeavors, the bad rap they're still trying to shake off in America, or the price tag involved with giving the Nexus the promotion it needs.
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