VZ[W] isn't all bad...

SurfingJerry

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No, I don't write these things just so you'll hate me.

My post in the Verizon constitutional right to throttle thread got me thinking, so I did some number crunching.... Enjoy

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Over the last 2 years (typical contract length) VZ has gone from $26.65 to $45.21 a share. An increase of $18.56, or 70%.
VZ also pays a quarterly dividend, currently $0.50. For now let's assume that has been consistent for the last 2 years (8 quarters).

So, 2 years ago you plunk down $2665 for 100 shares of VZ. Those shares are now worth $4521. If you sell them you pocket $1856 in profit, plus you will have received $400 in dividends (100 shares x $0.50 per share x 8 quarters). Gross profit of $2256 (yes, the tax man cometh and there's some commissions, and we're assuming you didn't reinvest those dividends. Of course you should reinvest those divs as you'd actually make even more money, but it will just make this too confusing for neophytes).

Using my current plan as a benchmark (2 lines, family share 700, each with 250 txt msg and unlimited data, including taxes etc) is $160/month or $3840 over the 2 year contract period.

But if I owned 200 shares of VZ (100 shares for each of 2 lines), I'd be in the black for $672 ($4512 cap gains & divs - $3840 charges).

I haven't yet done a comparison for the new plans. If they make more money for VZ, as a shareholder I'd be happy. If the div yield increases, or more importantly if the stock price outpaces the higher charges, as a combo shareholder-customer, it would be hard to complain. Of course, past performance is no guarantee of future results.

Oh, bring on the flames of hell now....

Signed,
The Devil

:)
 
No, I don't write these things just so you'll hate me.

My post in the Verizon constitutional right to throttle thread got me thinking, so I did some number crunching.... Enjoy

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Over the last 2 years (typical contract length) VZ has gone from $26.65 to $45.21 a share. An increase of $18.56, or 70%.
VZ also pays a quarterly dividend, currently $0.50. For now let's assume that has been consistent for the last 2 years (8 quarters).

So, 2 years ago you plunk down $2665 for 100 shares of VZ. Those shares are now worth $4521. If you sell them you pocket $1856 in profit, plus you will have received $400 in dividends (100 shares x $0.50 per share x 8 quarters). Gross profit of $2256 (yes, the tax man cometh and there's some commissions, and we're assuming you didn't reinvest those dividends. Of course you should reinvest those divs as you'd actually make even more money, but it will just make this too confusing for neophytes).

Using my current plan as a benchmark (2 lines, family share 700, each with 250 txt msg and unlimited data, including taxes etc) is $160/month or $3840 over the 2 year contract period.

But if I owned 200 shares of VZ (100 shares for each of 2 lines), I'd be in the black for $672 ($4512 cap gains & divs - $3840 charges).

I haven't yet done a comparison for the new plans. If they make more money for VZ, as a shareholder I'd be happy. If the div yield increases, or more importantly if the stock price outpaces the higher charges, as a combo shareholder-customer, it would be hard to complain. Of course, past performance is no guarantee of future results.

Oh, bring on the flames of hell now....

Signed,
The Devil

:)

thats a pretty big IF. what you smokin???? :p
 
Very good thought. Both you and VZW make a profit on your investment then you give your profit to them plus some to keep your phones turned on, while they throttle you and make you change your plan (once your contract is up they have that ability to take away your unlimited) so they can make even more off of you.
 
Math :-[ makes my head hurt. Can't blame a company for trying to maximize profits (that's what they're supposed to do) but gouging is illegal for a reason.

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@thechildz... Not such a big IF, sure for some, but not all

@leroybrute... Better than Verizon being the only one to make a profit. It's not like you're willing to do without your phone/data, so someone is going to profit, you might as well get yours.

@Wanda... This wouldn't qualify for price gouging. Price gouging is when there is an emergency and you are the sole or limited supplier of a necessary commodity and you Jack the prices the exploit the desperation of others.

@wanda/piizadude... I tried to keep it 3rd grade level.
 
You mean Verizon is a company that actually tries to maximize profits,improve its earnings and isn't here to give us what we want for what we think we should be able to pay for it. Shocking.

I don't care what kind of phone you have, that's not how I judge someone's worth or intelligence.
 
@Wanda... This wouldn't qualify for price gouging. Price gouging is when there is an emergency and you are the sole or limited supplier of a necessary commodity and you Jack the prices the exploit the desperation of others.

Yes I understand what gouging really is. I was saying it more for effect than actual accusation.

@wanda/piizadude... I tried to keep it 3rd grade level.

I didn't say I couldn't do math...I just don't like to.
 
Here's my thought. Profits increased, membership increased, data rate increased, however they didn't make the network increases commensurate with everything else. Sure they get to pocket more cash, but at the expense of the members they enticed in with promises of "unlimited" and "best network" . While they still get the best network award, it's meaningless.

How can you claim to have the best network, that nobody on it is allowed to use without paying through the nose? It's like putting tanks at every freeway on ramp and blowing up 1/10 cars that try to get on....Just to say that you have the fastest freeway.