vzw employee view on delay

[humpagardengnome]

There have been a lot of outages this year.

Glad, you linked this, I didn't wanna get flamed for pointing out the obvious dichotomy. This has plagued them since they went public w/ LTE on their network. I find this outage issue is a rather odd turn of events. They are conncerned by this round of fallouts. Yet, 2 of the 3 local retail outlets that are situated close in my area, have had huge issues w/ signal fallout in their stores since the Tbolt. On any given day all 3 are offline more than they're online. I feel bad for these employees because it's gotta be hard to sell their smartphones if you can't demonstrate what LTE speeds offers to customers on a consistant basis. Whereas, our area has great coverage. I've only dropped 4g twice for less than 2 mins. each and I have yet to seen my LTE drop to CDMA on my Rezound. I have to think if Big Red was seriously worried qbout this they would've lifted a finger to troubleshoot. I know for a fact the managers have informed:corp. about this on more than a few occasions. That really makes me suspect Big Red on this outage issue. I'm not crying afoul but it's a fact that this is not a new issue by any means.

 

[jasoraso]

Thanks to the OP for this post/thread. Some if you may not want believe, but i think this makes sense. There have been other reports out there about an update, and if they are really having problems with the update, I can understand why the release was pushed back.

I guess the tin foil hat wearers might believe that the update has been delayed on purpose, though.

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[ChuckG73]

They can't be held accountable, if they don't communicate a release date. As irresponsible as that seems to cusomers, that's beneficial to their business strategies. That's been there modus operandi for years. We should all be used to this by now and we probably would be if the other big 3 carriers, had issues like Verizon has with bringing new products to their netwiorks. I hope Verizon learns to keep a lid on upcoming devices like their competitor. Being the biggrat carrier, they sure didn't get there by having the happiest consumer base.

That is my point. They are not accountable. And I am not saying accountable to us, but within their own company. You set dates to make the tam work towards a common goal, without them you are only as strong as your weakest link.

 

[jakeh0]

it's not like verizon even explains what 4g is in the commercial

*cue some dudes in a plane jumping into a cloud and shooting lightning*

VERIZON 4G LTE

 

[humpagardengnome]

Thanks to the OP for this post/thread. Some if you may not want believe, but i think this makes sense. There have been other reports out there about an update, and if they are really having problems with the update, I can understand why the release was pushed back.

I guess the tin foil hat wearers might believe that the update has been delayed on purpose, though.

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If this is an OTA issue, explain to me, why are they pushing out the Bionixs OTA fixes?. They're pushing out the Bionics as we speak. And it didn't slow any other OTA pushes during any of those. 1+1= does not equal 3. Only way it could be update related would be if they're servers were bogged down cuz it's congeated w/ Bionic updates. That got nada to do w/ LTE. I don't know what the issue is at the moment. All of these theories floating around all have one thing in common, every one of them conflicts the rationale behind another. This is the strangest series of events to occur in a release I've ever thought thought possible. It's both a quandry and enigma to even the most rational of mindsets.

 

[Tom in Bristol]

Why don't u &joe the insider tell us what versions of ICS are on your phones?

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[humpagardengnome]

Why don't u &joe the insider tell us what versions of ICS are on your phones?

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Build version, kernel and baseband version would be a better gauge.

 

[zxphenomenalxz]

Build version, kernel and baseband version would be a better gauge.

Android 4.0.1
Baseband i515.09 v.ek01/i515.ek02
kernal 3.0.1-ge2433f2 android-build@apa28 #1

 

[Tom in Bristol]

Android 4.0.1
Baseband i515.09 v.ek01/i515.ek02
kernal 3.0.1-ge2433f2 android-build@apa28 #1

And were you prompted to do an OTA when it first started up?

The demo model may have a diff bunch of display-model 'features' that sales models don't have.

 

[zxphenomenalxz]

And were you prompted to do an OTA when it first started up?

The demo model may have a diff bunch of display-model 'features' that sales models
don't have.

No update once active. And no its not a demo specific model either its the legit deal. I check everyday for software and still nothing.

 

[Joe the Insider]

I am not a Verizon employee and I am very happy about that. Verizon is a horribly run organization with a faulty LTE network and poor business sense. They are a dumb pipe. That is all.

Yet most people have Verizon and yes, their lte isn't perfect, Verizon is dominating the market with coverage of it. What you say is ridiculous and is not a horrible organization. Why would they give a date if it isn't promised? You're the one reading all the garbage on blogs and letting yourself down. It's not like they promised a date and changed it.

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[Tee312]

If this is an OTA issue, explain to me, why are they pushing out the Bionixs OTA fixes?. They're pushing out the Bionics as we speak. And it didn't slow any other OTA pushes during any of those. 1+1= does not equal 3. Only way it could be update related would be if they're servers were bogged down cuz it's congeated w/ Bionic updates. That got nada to do w/ LTE. I don't know what the issue is at the moment. All of these theories floating around all have one thing in common, every one of them conflicts the rationale behind another. This is the strangest series of events to occur in a release I've ever thought thought possible. It's both a quandry and enigma to even the most rational of mindsets.

It's not a matter of the OTA update, it's a matter of thousands of nexi being activated and updated at once when the network was having serious nationwide issues. I didn't even have 3G at ALL Wednesday. You notice how the bionic's OTA didn't get pushed out until today, it's been over 24 hours since the LTE network was fixed.

 

[kenshell]

So where is the picture from the OP?

 

[ihyln]

So where is the picture from the OP?

OP is rumored to release it on 12/12. Again just a rumor.

 

[cstmstyle]

So a question to people who would actually know this but who at Verizon actually makes the decision on when to allow phones to be sold. I find the process interesting also do those same people ever talk to anyone outside the company. I just get the impression that the high up insiders we get leaked info from are still just tech guys like most of us and not really the boardroom type people I assume pulls the strings.

 

[ohiomoto]

I don't believe the OP. If there were problems with the phone, I think Verizon would have come out and said something. It would be nothing embarrassing for them, as they didn't make the phone or the software. The only reason that Verizon would say nothing at all is because there was no sound reason...they just wanted to push Droid devices and knew the GN would take away from that.

Really? Why? Because Verizon has announced so much about this launch up to this point?

 

[zxphenomenalxz]

Don't believe me.. but I'm actively using the phone. I took a picture with my username on phone just don't have ability to upload it since I'm currently at work. Today I still lost data connection I had to do the normal tricks you do when they drop on other phones.

Ask me questions about it if you want ill answer what I can.

I truly believe there is good reasons for this delay. It deff is software related . I'm sure there's way more to it that I can find by tinkering with the phone. But again the only major issue I have come across is the very consistant data dropping.

 

[humpagardengnome]

It's not a matter of the OTA update, it's a matter of thousands of nexi being activated and updated at once when the network was having serious nationwide issues. I didn't even have 3G at ALL Wednesday. You notice how the bionic's OTA didn't get pushed out until today, it's been over 24 hours since the LTE network was fixed.

That's interesting cuz it updated to a co workers checked for system update, lo and behold, what have we here Kinda funny how that worked out.

 

[trivor]

Does everyone really think (conspiracy) that Verizon is sitting (warehousing) thousands or tens of thousands of phones just to sell Razrs and Rezounds. From an accounting point of view it is very expensive to sit on warehoused phones and not sell them. They only have so much shelf space and they're not going to sit on these phones just for the sake of sitting on them. While I'm sure Verizon makes money on the "Bloatware" they make a heck of a lot more money moving feature phone users up to smartphones with a data plan (min. of $30/month) and possibly getting users to switch from the other carriers for LTE. I think they'll release this as soon as they can and let the chips fall (whether it's Razr, Rezound, on sale Revolution, Bionic, Thunderbolt, Stratosphere, Breakout, etc.). No one seems to be calling conspiracy on the rumor that the Droid 4 was supposed to be out this week. I really don't think Verizon wants to miss Xmas selling with any of these phones. I hope the Galaxy Nexus is successful so Verizon has another Nexus next year. I would have loved to get the Nexus S and I hope Verizon's experience with the Galaxy Nexus doesn't become the first and last Nexus for Verizon. For those of you complaining about the two Verizon apps on there it's better than no Nexus at all. If the rest of the Verizon Bloatware was there I could see it.

End of Rant.

 

[MRW1215]

Honestly, I just don't understand why they'd have to delay it. I mean, I'm sure there are probably some software bugs that still need to be worked out, but I can't imagine it's anything that "breaks" the device. There's no such thing as "perfect" software. Someone, somewhere, is going to find bugs in the newest releases. It's inevitable. That's what software updates are for; they roll out fixes for things (and often end up having their own "bugs" that need to later be fixed).

So, I'm skeptical of it being a software issue. I know they probably want to give everyone a good first impression of ICS, but again, people are going to find bugs with it no matter what.

I won't necessarily jump on the bandwagon that they delayed it to "sell more Razrs and Rezounds", though I'm sure they did want to space out the releases a bit.

I don't think Verizon is trying to "sabotage" the Nexus; after all, they passed on getting the S2 specifically to get the Nexus. Why would they do that, knowing full well the nature of the Nexus brand, if they were just going to end up sabotaging the phone? That makes no sense.

But I really don't know what else it could be that keeps causing these delays. Nothing just seems to add up.