vzw employee view on delay

I had an i4 and i4s. Great is a little much. It is a good phone but with a glorified app launcher it does not need much to run smooth. If apple added lte and a larger screen than maybe i would switch back but the size now is to small. Will be interesting to see if rumors hold true of an all new os overhaul for ios6.

The Jobs book is pretty revealing in explaining this. Two primary themes with Apple products. Simplicity and minimalism. One button and purchased apps appear on the iPhone icon screen. I have four buttons and purchased apps appear in the app drawer (and widgets are more complicated and I've found not fully understood by most iPhone owners.) I need widgets and a big screen for browsing and readability. As long as Apple punts on these I'll not consider them. But my patience is being tested by Verizon, and Google, and the @#%& * we have to go through.

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It's not a matter of the OTA update, it's a matter of thousands of nexi being activated and updated at once when the network was having serious nationwide issues. I didn't even have 3G at ALL Wednesday. You notice how the bionic's OTA didn't get pushed out until today, it's been over 24 hours since the LTE network was fixed.

Still say it was LTE related, they have yet to even push out the 4.0.2 update for the recoded radio on a single retail/demo floor unit. The Bionic fix has several days under it's belt, no probs. Seems like LTE signal fallout was bad timing but not the real problem behind the delay.
 
The iPhone is a great phone. I played with one the other day and it was actually really nice. iOS felt a little too confined for my taste and the screen definitely wasn't big enough, but I can see the appeal. We need to stop generalizing people who buy other phones. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is a bad product.

This.

If you go into a Verizon store, the shoppers are overall much smarter than most people on the internet want to believe they are. Hell, when I went in for my Thunderbolt earlier this year, the guys didn't look like fellow nerds and even they knew what was up; even an old guy was there because his son told him everything about the device!

Please stop stereotyping. It makes the rest of us look like complete tools, for one, but more importantly it is just as backwards as any other type of discrimination and generalization that other people have to endure. Furthermore, by underestimating these shoppers you end up hurting yourself as you try miss out on day-1 product launches and other such scenarios. You also become responsible for pushing people towards a competitor's devices by expressing your undeserved elitism.
 
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This is an interesting thread, the first time I've seen people who claim they're employees, posting messages on a forum. I wonder if VZW has actually asked some of its employees to go out to various forums (this, Phandroid, Droid Life etc.) or pick a top forum like this one, and post messages urging people to be patient! I wouldn't rule it out.

Secondly, all this talk of bugs and people complaining about their first-day-launched Bionics and Incredibles, is leading me to reconsider picking up the phone on Day 1. Yes, my own Day 1- Incredible is starting to give me issues now, the random restarts are becoming more and more annoying, and thankfully the low-space bug has disappeared with the latest build update in GIngerbread. BUT, I think I can manage another month or two and wait until the Galaxy Nexus settle down a little. Let the first or even the first couple of OTA updates to roll out, read various reviews on cnet and Engadget about the Verizon version of the phone, review this forum to read about people's experiences and THEN buy it.

I get a $30 discount on VZW for buying a new phone, but thankfully that is not time-bound.
 
The other thing I want to add is that Samsung or Google or VZW *never* did officially announce a launch date. People have been scavenging through Best Buy and other records and have come up with the December 9 date. So technically, they may not agree that this is a delay of any sort at all.

If they had announced a launch data and then not launched it on that day, their stocks would have taken a big beating and we would have never have heard the end of how Google's new flagship phone got off to a disastrous start, and endless speculation on what bugs the phone might have and turned a million people into skeptics rather than buyers. Also true if the phone had been launched and then people found all types of bugs in it. *Nobody* wants a disaster at launch, trust me.

The fact that the phone launched in England and Canada is evidence that they're sorting out Verizon-related issues.

So I keep telling myself that all this wait is worth it and they're testing and re-testing and making sure all phones are fine and that their own network is ready to take on the onslaught of 4G that Galaxy Nexus will bring with it.
 
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The other thing I want to add is that Samsung or Google or VZW *never* did officially announce a launch date. People have been scavenging through Best Buy and other records and have come up with the December 9 date. So technically, they may not agree that this is a delay of any sort at all.

If they had announced a launch data and then not launched it on that day, their stocks would have taken a big beating and we would have never have heard the end of how Google's new flagship phone got off to a disastrous start, and endless speculation on what bugs the phone might have and turned a million people into skeptics rather than buyers. Also true if the phone had been launched and then people found all types of bugs in it. *Nobody* wants a disaster at launch, trust me.

The fact that the phone launched in England and Canada is evidence that they're sorting out Verizon-related issues.

So I keep telling myself that all this wait is worth it and they're testing and re-testing and making sure all phones are fine and that their own network is ready to take on the onslaught of 4G that Galaxy Nexus will bring with it.

If the phones weren't ready why ship them to stores than? Sorry not gonna waste money on that if the phones aren't ready....
 
That's a great question I think.

I think verizon sends employees here to facilitate fake info because clearly bugs would have kept the phones out of stores and not a potential 12/9 release... maybe people just don't comprehend that?
 
If the phones weren't ready why ship them to stores than? Sorry not gonna waste money on that if the phones aren't ready....

I just got to use one for a little bit at a corporate store...it sure as hell didn't seem buggy to me. LTE connectivity was great and it was fast. Granted I only spent 4-5 minutes with it, but it certainly seemed completely functional. Reps were raving about it too, so if it's a "bug" that pushed it back, it certainly isn't a big one.
 
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I just got to use one for a little bit at a corporate store...it sure as hell didn't seem buggy to me. LTE connectivity was great and it was fast. Granted I only spent 4-5 minutes with it, but it certainly seemed completely functional. Reps were raving about it too, so if it's a "bug" that pushed it back, it certainly isn't a big one.

Yep, same thing I noticed.
 
I think what you say is partially true but most people when they walk into a store have no idea what ICS or GB is. They look at the one that looks the nicest or what they see the most commercials for and then buy that. The others will still sell, and verizon will probably drop the price of those down to $249 to try adn grab more sales.

I see what your saying but I tend to think that smartphone users know a little bit more than we are giving them credit for. I just don't think Verizon wanted another phone to compete with their big 3 they were pushing for the holiday's. Also, the commercials for these phones don't really show many features so I think most customers, like you said, will go in and look to see which one they like better. But c'mon man, what would you do if you saw that bad azz Galaxy Nexus sitting there next to the other ones...hehe.....you know you would grab that puppy up...lol...just like me :p
 
The coolest thing about this phone is that we'll never forget it. This whole experience is going to be a story we tell countless times. Combine that with just how great this phone is on all fronts and out of the 25+ phones ive used in the past 3 years, this one will be the greatest and i havent even gotten to turn one on yet.
 
I see what your saying but I tend to think that smartphone users know a little bit more than we are giving them credit for. I just don't think Verizon wanted another phone to compete with their big 3 they were pushing for the holiday's. Also, the commercials for these phones don't really show many features so I think most customers, like you said, will go in and look to see which one they like better. But c'mon man, what would you do if you saw that bad azz Galaxy Nexus sitting there next to the other ones...hehe.....you know you would grab that puppy up...lol...just like me :p

I would, but you and I are not the norm. If that were the case, all those other phones wouldn't be selling.
 

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