Washed out colours on the pixel 2 xl?

[Aquila]

And you know this because you currently have one in hand and have determined it by calibrating the display, or...?

Regardless, if the display is made by LG (I believe yes) then it will likely not be that great as their mobile displays are not that great. Their OLED TVs on the other hand are stellar.

For accuracy, in general, it doesn't matter who makes the display, it matters who calibrates the display. The V30, Pixel 2 XL and the S8 all support the same color gamuts (DCI-P3 and sRGB) and have very similar levels of accuracy on each.

 

[GTvert90]

For accuracy, in general, it doesn't matter who makes the display, it matters who calibrates the display.

That's kind of what I was thinking. Didn't the 6 or 6p.. maybe it was the OG Pixel use the same display tech as the current at the time Galaxy S7 series and still be slightly subpar? You would think LG making the screen would calibrate it the best but that's not always the case

 

[dejanh]

For accuracy, in general, it doesn't matter who makes the display, it matters who calibrates the display. The V30, Pixel 2 XL and the S8 all support the same color gamuts (DCI-P3 and sRGB) and have very similar levels of accuracy on each.

It absolutely matters who makes the display because the manufacturing process, substrates used, etc. all have variations. Theoretical color coverage of the display is definitely a factor in display accuracy, however there are a lot more factors at play. Even a calibrated display does not guarantee accurate color reproduction. For starters, calibration to D65 is important, but many calibrate to other white points, ambient lighting affects color accuracy (TrueTone on iPhone deals with this type of stuff), etc. Lots of other things matter as well...Display Color Accuracy Shoot-Out

 

[Aquila]

It absolutely matters who makes the display because the manufacturing process, substrates used, etc. all have variations. Theoretical color coverage of the display is definitely a factor in display accuracy, however there are a lot more factors at play. Even a calibrated display does not guarantee accurate color reproduction. For starters, calibration to D65 is important, but many calibrate to other white points, ambient lighting affects color accuracy (TrueTone on iPhone deals with this type of stuff), etc. Lots of other things matter as well...Display Color Accuracy Shoot-Out

There are more factors at play than just calibration, but none of them matter more than calibration, aside from obvious design flaws, because calibration is one of the methods used to overcome many issues that would impact color accuracy. Calibration can't fix a bad display, but it can make a bad display display most colors accurately, in most conditions.

When the V30 is said to produce 109% DCI-P3 and 148% sRGB, which is being compared to figures of 113% DCI=P3 and 148% sRGB for the S8, we see that the V30 is potentially more color accurate than the S8 - which is amazing. The only devices more color accurate than the S8 that we know of are the the Note 8 (112%/141% respectively) and the iPhone 7 Plus (104%/102%). This would make the V30 the second most accurate on the sRGB gamut and tied for 3rd with the S8 on DCI-P3.

We know that the Pixel 2 XL supports DCI-P3 at "100%" but (unlike the smaller Pixel 2 which is 93% DCI-P3), but we don't have either's sRGB measurement yet and don't know how accurate the 100% value actually is. If that number is real, that makes the 2 XL one of the most accurate displays we've ever seen.

 

[dejanh]

There are more factors at play than just calibration, but none of them matter more than calibration, aside from obvious design flaws, because calibration is one of the methods used to overcome many issues that would impact color accuracy. Calibration can't fix a bad display, but it can make a bad display display most colors accurately, in most conditions.

When the V30 is said to produce 109% DCI-P3 and 148% sRGB, which is being compared to figures of 113% DCI=P3 and 148% sRGB for the S8, we see that the V30 is potentially more color accurate than the S8 - which is amazing. The only devices more color accurate than the S8 that we know of are the the Note 8 (112%/141% respectively) and the iPhone 7 Plus (104%/102%). This would make the V30 the second most accurate on the sRGB gamut and tied for 3rd with the S8 on DCI-P3.

We know that the Pixel 2 XL supports DCI-P3 at "100%" but (unlike the smaller Pixel 2 which is 93% DCI-P3), but we don't have either's sRGB measurement yet and don't know how accurate the 100% value actually is. If that number is real, that makes the 2 XL one of the most accurate displays we've ever seen.

Do you know what white point the displays are being calibrated to? Do you know the luminosity at those measurements? What is the normalized coverage of the color space at different luminosity levels. Also, I think that you pay too little attention to the manufacturing variations or even different display grades/qualities/etc. produced from the same manufacturers, which can be substantial. Look at nits rating for instance on the new iPhone X compared to the Note 8, both OLED displays made by Samsung. Huge difference. My original point was that you cannot make the statement that Pixel 2 XL has a color accurate display or even a very good display at this point in time. We have to wait and see. Likewise, the only point that I was making earlier was that LG OLED displays have generally been sub-par when compared to Samsung OLED displays, and the Pixel 2 XL is likely using an LG display. It is possible though that we end up having LG OLED displays on phones as good as LG OLED displays on TVs.

 

[Aquila]

Do you know what white point the displays are being calibrated to? Do you know the luminosity at those measurements? What is the normalized coverage of the color space at different luminosity levels. Also, I think that you pay too little attention to the manufacturing variations or even different display grades/qualities/etc. produced from the same manufacturers, which can be substantial. Look at nits rating for instance on the new iPhone X compared to the Note 8, both OLED displays made by Samsung. Huge difference. My original point was that you cannot make the statement that Pixel 2 XL has a color accurate display or even a very good display at this point in time. We have to wait and see. Likewise, the only point that I was making earlier was that LG OLED displays have generally been sub-par when compared to Samsung OLED displays, and the Pixel 2 XL is likely using an LG display. It is possible though that we end up having LG OLED displays on phones as good as LG OLED displays on TVs.

I'm saying I think you're generalizing based on manufacturer when we have information available that suggests that LG has stopped crapping the bed on color accuracy and additional information that suggests that Google has done an even better job at at least gamut accuracy than LG did with their own display.

And yes, have used the display, no did not measure it. There are a few things about the XL that aren't my cup of tea, but the display isn't one of them. It looks great.

 

[openwheelracing]

I hope the Pixel 2 amoled screen is better than poled in the 2XL.

Because I didn't go for the XL and I am selfish

 

[Ziich47]

the last phone that used poled was the note 8 and that is a stellar display

 

[GrumpyMomofMacR]

Oh well I hope it can't be worse than the pink nightmare of my S8+ display. Fortunately Samsung's software "fix" mitigated it but I'm forever stuck with adaptive mode unless I want a display from Hello Kitty hell.

 

[Stinger4321]

Oh well I hope it can't be worse than the pink nightmare of my S8+ display. Fortunately Samsung's software "fix" mitigated it but I'm forever stuck with adaptive mode unless I want a display from Hello Kitty hell.

Root and install custom kernel to change the color.. or is it a locked down Verizon phone..

 

[GrumpyMomofMacR]

It's a locked down At&T phone, unfortunately.

 

[jamezr]

And you know this because you currently have one in hand and have determined it by calibrating the display, or...?

Regardless, if the display is made by LG (I believe yes) then it will likely not be that great as their mobile displays are not that great. Their OLED TVs on the other hand are stellar.

And you know this how because you have a Pixel 2 XL in your hand right now? Don't you think Google has some say in how the Pixel 2 is made? Should we then assume the camera is the same as other LG phones too.....or did Google make some improvements? See how that logic is flawed......

 

[Jeremy8000]

It's definitely not my favorite phone design and the side bezels are noticeably thick for 2017. But, functionality is there and that counts for something.

Certainly a matter of personal preference. As one who keeps his phone protected in a slim case, I find that the side bezels are, from what I can tell without holding on, just thin enough without being so thin to the point that the lip of a case would obscure the visibility or at least functional access to touch the full edges. Were I not a case-user, I would agree.

 

[recDNA]

I don't know where I heard this, but I heard that the display is made by LG. I might be wrong.

I believe LG makes the Samsung display also.

 

[modifier]

Certainly a matter of personal preference. As one who keeps his phone protected in a slim case, I find that the side bezels are, from what I can tell without holding on, just thin enough without being so thin to the point that the lip of a case would obscure the visibility or at least functional access to touch the full edges. Were I not a case-user, I would agree.

I'm in the non-case-user camp. I do agree that the side bezel width should disappear with most cases.

 

[bjrosen]

I believe LG makes the Samsung display also.

Samsung makes the Samsung displays, they also are making the display for the iPhoneX. Samsung completely dominates the AMOLED phone display market, something like 98% market share. LG has concentrated on large OLED displays for TVs. Samsung doesn't make an OLED TV, LG does.

It's impossible to tell from the videos on the web what the colors will look like. None of the reviewers have commented on there being a problem but then again none of them have had more that a few minutes with the phone.

 

[Aquila]

Samsung makes the Samsung displays, they also are making the display for the iPhoneX. Samsung completely dominates the AMOLED phone display market, something like 98% market share. LG has concentrated on large OLED displays for TVs. Samsung doesn't make an OLED TV, LG does.

It's impossible to tell from the videos on the web what the colors will look like. None of the reviewers have commented on there being a problem but then again none of them have had more that a few minutes with the phone.

I do not have a review unit but I had a test unit for nearly two months. There were no issues with my display until I dropped it and then the issue was that it was cracked.

 

[Ca_lvn]

I do not have a review unit but I had a test unit for nearly two months. There were no issues with my display until I dropped it and then the issue was that it was cracked.

Was it a hard fall/drop ?

 

[Aquila]

Was it a hard fall/drop ?

Very hard, slightly less velocity than throwing it on the ground.

 

[JHBThree]

POLED stands for Plastic OLED. Historically these have not been the best displays. I cannot comment on how good the technology is now, but I suspect it will not be at the level of what Samsung is offering. Typically POLED displays have not been able to get as bright, and generally had tendencies to be too red, green, or blue, most common being the reddish (more like magenta) tinge to the display.

Here is an article that discusses the POLED technology http://www.androidauthority.com/poled-vs-amoled-792869/ (Unfortunately it also does not credit the original article discussing this in any way...an article that predates this one by a few years).

The last phone that used a POLED display that I know of was the BlackBerry Priv and that was hardly a stellar display.

Samsung devices use POLED as well. How do you think they achieve the curved edges?