We already have problems

pushing back a release date would be a problem. Rumors say it was pushed back, but we don't really know, hence the "allegedly"


...go ducks...not really

Posted via my Droid Bionic while waiting for my email notification from Verizon telling me when the Droid Bionic will be available

Oh, by the way... Verizon NEVER pushed back the release date of the Moto X because they had never announced any until the 29th. You cannot hold carriers to rumours because they are just rumours, not official statements.
 
The camera is definitely a disappointment but it is expected from Motorola and from current reports does not seem to be nearly as much of an issue that many people are building it up to be. It won't work for the people that nit pick tiny details from their pictures but it will be MORE than adequate for the vast majority of users.

I toyed around with a Droid Ultra today and I was rather impressed with the camera (it's the same camera/software). My guess is that it will just require a software tweak to improve the results in certain situations. But the shots I snapped turned out quite nice.
 
First of all, Verizon "pushing back" the date has absolutely nothing to do with Motorola bungling the release, and everything to do with Verizon being a greedy company with zero respect for their customers and only caring about their brand.

The exclusivity for Moto Maker is a horrible shame, but I think it really was a massively important decision and will in the long run have a much better impact on Motorola's image than a release where their facility is completely unable to keep up with demand, including finding out the processes are unable to provide a consistent product due to the massive stresses put on it by a complete nationwide availability. I am much happier that Moto has chosen to hold off on engraving until they can ensure the process is working well because they would have had a MUCH bigger issue on their hands if phones started getting to customers with huge quality issues in the engravings they were able to order.

The camera is definitely a disappointment but it is expected from Motorola and from current reports does not seem to be nearly as much of an issue that many people are building it up to be. It won't work for the people that nit pick tiny details from their pictures but it will be MORE than adequate for the vast majority of users.

I'm glad you agree that the release has had some problems.

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Oh, by the way... Verizon NEVER pushed back the release date of the Moto X because they had never announced any until the 29th. You cannot hold carriers to rumours because they are just rumours, not official statements.

Hence the "allegedly"
 
Oh, by the way... Verizon NEVER pushed back the release date of the Moto X because they had never announced any until the 29th. You cannot hold carriers to rumours because they are just rumours, not official statements.

Actually, they haven't announced any release date at all. The 29th is a rumor coming from a Best Buy screen.
 
Every customer that saw the advertised product and planned on ordering it day 1 with an engraving has a problem.
ATT&T which had an exclusivity which would allow its customers to get an engraved phone first has a problem.
Motorola/Google who heavily marketed a feature that they can't deliver on as promised has a problem.
People who got the early invites and could access motomaker today to design their phones have a problem.

People who can't lighten up and seem to want to argue for the sake of arguing have a problem.

The engraving option will probably be back up into holiday season so everyone planning to engrave them for special people will get that option, probably.

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Every customer that saw the advertised product and planned on ordering it day 1 with an engraving has a problem.
ATT&T which had an exclusivity which would allow its customers to get an engraved phone first has a problem.
Motorola/Google who heavily marketed a feature that they can't deliver on as promised has a problem.
People who got the early invites and could access motomaker today to design their phones have a problem.

People who can't lighten up and seem to want to argue for the sake of arguing have a problem.

The engraving option will probably be back up into holiday season so everyone planning to engrave them for special people will get that option, probably.
 
Some people just enjoy making something out of nothing, end of story.

Yes, agreed, this has been a botched release... Of a product that hasn't even been released...

Oh, the interwebs.
 
So tomorrow, or end of next week, whatever... Every customer of Sprint, Verizon, T-Mobile, Rogers and every other carrier in the world except AT&T will get 100% of what was promised to them for a launch. AT&T will get everything except the engraving, because it's not up to code.

Optimistically, we think this phone will sell what... 3 million units? But just for easy numbers, lets say it's 8 million. Lets say those 8 million people represent .1% of the world. Of those 8 million, 2 million would be AT&T customers. Lets call that .025% of the world. Of those 2 million, lets say optimistically half use Moto maker instead of walking home with a phone. That's .0125%. How many of those will buy it on release day? The ledge may be very front heavy, perhaps 80%. That leaves .0100% (and remember we were being very optimistic) of the world's population that are being negatively impacted by the lack of engraving, and thus receiving less than what has been announced thus far. 999/1000 people will not buy this phone, and of those that do, 90% are receiving 100% of what has been promised to them. The other 10%, if they were going to engrave anything, might want to wait a week or two to see if that feature is going to be reinstated.

Bottom line, 99.99% (at least) of the planet is receiving exactly what Motorola has said they will.
 
this is all so irrelevant in so very soon. We'll find out how it really goes soon enough. Although at the same time, not soon enough, lol.
 
All I see is that we have a smug forum user that wants to create drama.

Since I'm an actual customer that's bought the phone here's my take on it.

I wanted this phone badly enough to switch from Verizon since I've been out of contract since March. I was saving my phone upgrade until something caught my eye and this phone is exactly what I want.

I logged into motomaker on Monday and created my phone. I had it all planned out and was going to put 'Whos scruffy looking" on the back of my phone or alternatively "To Boldly Go" if it didn't fit. The option was down and I was presented with a choice. Wait and complain or get the phone I want with a higher resale value. As it wasn't a big deal and I'd likely have regretted my engraving later I happily ordered the 32GB phone and I'm eagerly awaiting it. (Cherry Red back, Black face plate, Metallic Yellow accents)

In short not being able to engrave the back wasn't a deal breaker for me and probably got me more money down the road. I even switched carriers because I wanted my phone to match my sports car and customization was a huge incentive to me.

:cool:
 
5 words and a link.

Seriously, I posted 5 words and a link.

What is wrong with some of you? There was news about a phone that people are interested and I made a thread about it. It's obviously a story because it made the front page of AC as well as numerous other sites. You guys are acting like I said that Moto is going around kicking puppies or destroying life as we know it and will cause a black hole that will devour our entire planet.
If i'm not supposed to talk about stuff because the phone hasn't been released then we should delete this entire sub-forum.
If I'm not supposed to talk about it because 99.99% of the world isn't affected then we should delete most of this site.
If "smug forum users" shouldn't post then everybody on this site needs to give up their internet connection.
And talking about making somethig out of nothing...you people have made this thread a100 times bigger deal than what my 5 words and a link ever were. Its kinda sad, really.
 
I logged into motomaker on Monday and created my phone. I had it all planned out and was going to put 'Whos scruffy looking" on the back of my phone or alternatively "To Boldly Go" if it didn't fit. The option was down and I was presented with a choice. Wait and complain or get the phone I want with a higher resale value. As it wasn't a big deal and I'd likely have regretted my engraving later I happily ordered the 32GB phone and I'm eagerly awaiting it. (Cherry Red back, Black face plate, Metallic Yellow accents)

...shouldn't it have been "Who's scruffy looking?" ;)