Weird Clean Master junk?

[htc one m8 user]

Hi all,

Been using Clean Master for almost 3 months now and I use "junk standard cleaning" every 3 days and it cleans around 350mb everytime, which seems to be the norm. But lately if I check every 15-20 minutes, it would have 350 mb, I would clean it, then it would have 350mb 20 minutes later after I shoot some texts etc. Is that weird? I have attached 2 screen shots below. I'm not sure what the "Data" one stands for. Please help I'm new!

Thank you!!

 

[Mooncatt]

It looks like you're using a memory booster, or optimizer type app. Those are junk on modern Android phones and hurt more than help. The app isn't actually deleting anything, it's just killing apps that are dormant in your Ram. What's happening is when apps are closed, Android re-opens them in the background to fill up Ram again.It's how Android is designed and is a good thing, which explains why you're seeing so much "junk," as your app mistakenly calls it, so soon after using it. For more detailed info on exactly what's going on, check out this article: http://m.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care

 

[htc one m8 user]

Thanks so much for the reply, I had no idea! The only reason I was concerned and using Clean Master is because after I installed NiLs notification, my battery drained like CRAZY. I just uninstalled it and installed Gsam Battery to see which apps are using the most battery. I THOUGHT the junk being cleaned are taking the battery but it's not right?

 

[Mooncatt]

Basically apps dormant in memory are using no additional power than if the memory was free. So keeping them there saves battery power by reducing startups. So yes, the "junk cleaner" was not helping battery life and most likely hurting it, depending on how often it ran.

 

[iFortWorth]

Basically apps dormant in memory are using no additional power than if the memory was free. So keeping them there saves battery power by reducing startups. So yes, the "junk cleaner" was not helping battery life and most likely hurting it, depending on how often it ran.

Not trying to argue but I have the M8 as well. Daily, my M8 get completly bogged down. So bad that it may take several seconds to open an app, keyboard go away, etc, etc. It's gotten real bad of late. REAL BAD.

I use a memory cleaner as well and after running my device comes back to mostly normal.

So if they don't do any good, or uneeded, how or why does it help me? My phone is only about 6 months old and it's getting to the point where I am ready for a new device.

Thanks
David

 

[Mooncatt]

From what I've seen, it's likely one of two things. Either you have a rogue app that is eating up resources, or you have so much running in the background that you have more apps fighting for RAM than can all run at once. The first is most likely, especially if when you're bogging down, you check the RAM usage and see it's nowhere near full. That would mean that one of the apps killed by Clean Master is causing problems unrelated to memory usage, but you're lucky that CM happens to pick it as one to kill. If you have a list of what apps can be killed by CM, that will help narrow down the problem app. In this case, memory optimizers can be used for limited diagnostics, but are otherwise just masking the symptoms of an actual problem.

I doubt it's an issue of running out of memory due to too many apps wanting space. I never considered it myself until it started happening with my Bionic with 1 GB RAM, but now mention it in such cases just because I now know it's a possibility. With various messengers, Weather Bug, and other background apps wanting to initialize themselves, Android was killing off apps over and over (essentially doing what memory optimizers do), only to have another app immediately take its place. As far as I know, there's no "virtual memory" in Android like Windows has. Once it's full, that's it. If a new app wants to start, another has to be killed, and that constant start/kill eats up CPU time.

 

[iFortWorth]

Every day I hit north of 80% . So I honestly think in my case that I just have to much crap running. After running Clean master I can get it back to about 50% but it starts creeping back up soon.

 

[Super Dave426]

Not trying to argue but I have the M8 as well. Daily, my M8 get completly bogged down. So bad that it may take several seconds to open an app, keyboard go away, etc, etc. It's gotten real bad of late. REAL BAD.

I use a memory cleaner as well and after running my device comes back to mostly normal.

So if they don't do any good, or uneeded, how or why does it help me? My phone is only about 6 months old and it's getting to the point where I am ready for a new device.

Thanks
David

My M8 has the same thing happen, I try to open an app or web page but the screen just stays a blank white. I used to use CM to dump the Junk, but was concerned how much RAM it uses all of the time. CM would pop up at different times telling me that the device was running hot and an app needed to be killed. Now all I do is tap on the bottom right Recent Apps soft key, wait a second for the notification bar to clear and tap the X, it closes all of the running apps, just like CM did. Then my device runs smooth again. I try and go through my apps and uninstall any that I never use to keep them from jamming up my RAM. Just opening recent apps sometimes I am amazed at how many apps are running. There are too many apps out there that do what the software already has built in, I try to keep it lean.

 

[iFortWorth]

Ok, well I removed all those type of apps and I'll see how she runs today. Thanks for the replies.

David


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