Weirdest "Burn In" I've Ever Seen!

[luke31]

Merry Christmas everyone!

Just reporting in with a kind of odd issue with my Moto X. Now, I haven't had an AMOLED device since my old GNex, so I'm relatively clueless as to their quirks. I am familiar with burn in. My phone seems to have it, but in the oddest way. If I turn down the brightness very low, and look at an all white image, I can see a very, very faint trace of the navbar and notification bar.

The weird thing, however, is that I see this "burn in" in a place on the screen that's far from where the two bars are ever located on the screen. I actually see an outline of these two bars, one very close to the other, on two areas on my screen (both close to the MIDDLE of the screen). I don't know how that's possible. It's not standard burn in because the outlines appear nowhere close to the positioning of the actual bars.

I hope I'm making sense with this. Regardless, I'm certainly not returning my phone over it, because to create the situation I need to be in a dark room with a blank white background, and have a very low brightness set. It's not part of my regular use case. But still, I find it pretty fascinating.

Cheers!

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[YarisT8]

I mentioned earlier regarding screen burn in with moto x. I can't believe it happen so soon with yours. I haven't really noticed any with mines or at least with what the eye can see.

 

[benhaube]

I honestly thought amoled displays were immune from burn in. Every pixel is just a microscopic group of LED's. To get a specific color the LED's are blended. If you think about it every pixel should either be on or off.

Obviously I'm totally wrong, and I'd love for someone to explain the science behind burn in on an AMOLED screen.

I'm fortunate to not have any burn in. Every phone and tablet I have had with an LCD panel has developed burn in.

 

[luke31]

I don't even know if it could be called burn in. I was always under the impression that burn in happens in areas where something static is displayed for a long time. This burn in is of something static, but occurs in the completely wrong place. When I get home from work I might try to take a picture to prove it, if it'll even come out.

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[itic]

Sounds more like a google launcher compatibility thing. My moto voice has been clunky since 5.0 overlays the google launcher over the moto home screen

 

[luke31]

Sounds more like a google launcher compatibility thing. My moto voice has been clunky since 5.0 overlays the google launcher over the moto home screen

What exactly do you mean? Isn't the Google Launcher native on the Moto X?

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[Christian Strock]

I've noticed the same thing on mine too. I have at least 3 or so burn in's of the navigation bar going up my screen. The strange part is that they are not static. If I have an app in landscape, the back button moves with it in the burn in. I would also like an answer to this question!

 

[luke31]

I've noticed the same thing on mine too. I have at least 3 or so burn in's of the navigation bar going up my screen. The strange part is that they are not static. If I have an app in landscape, the back button moves with it in the burn in. I would also like an answer to this question!

Exactly! It's as if it's some sort of ghosting or reflection. It's normally very difficult to spot, so it doesn't bother me too much, but I'd just love to know what it is.

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[Green_Laser]

Have you tried yet a pixel reset app, something of that sort?

 

[marka87uk]

That sounds like more a UI issue than burn in, but having looked at mine closely I can notice a bar at the bottom where the three on-screen buttons are... anyone else noticed this? I think it actually is with the screen as it stays static - I can only think it is where apps make the bottom black when you use them (Gmail, Facebook, WhatsApp, etc.) but I've only had the phone for about two months!

 

[benhaube]

What exactly do you mean? Isn't the Google Launcher native on the Moto X?

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Yes

 

[itic]

It is but the search box wasnt before 5.0. I got rid of it by switching to nova

 

[NoYankees44]

If it is burn in, it will be the exact same pixels in the exact same place and it will be there all the time(but probably only visible with certain backgrounds). What you have sounds like ui bugs, not any kind of burn in.

Sent from my XT1096

 

[luke31]

If it is burn in, it will be the exact same pixels in the exact same place and it will be there all the time(but probably only visible with certain backgrounds). What you have sounds like ui bugs, not any kind of burn in.

Sent from my XT1096

I hope you are right. But if it was a UI bug, wouldn't it show up in a screenshot? And wouldn't it be visible under any brightness?

 

[brandonx1000]

you may also just have an imperfect amoled display

 

[lambda81]

I have seen the exact same problem on my week old Moto X! And strangely only with lollipop. I do believe this is merely a UI issue or a least a reflection from the glass as the markings move when I tilt my device to landscape. It is a minor annoyance at the moment and I won't let it take me away from using this otherwise perfect phone but I will contact Motorola to see if it's just a UI issue
Thanks and Happy Motoing
Lambda

 

[On2Vegas]

Merry Christmas everyone!

Just reporting in with a kind of odd issue with my Moto X. Now, I haven't had an AMOLED device since my old GNex, so I'm relatively clueless as to their quirks. I am familiar with burn in. My phone seems to have it, but in the oddest way. If I turn down the brightness very low, and look at an all white image, I can see a very, very faint trace of the navbar and notification bar.

The weird thing, however, is that I see this "burn in" in a place on the screen that's far from where the two bars are ever located on the screen. I actually see an outline of these two bars, one very close to the other, on two areas on my screen (both close to the MIDDLE of the screen). I don't know how that's possible. It's not standard burn in because the outlines appear nowhere close to the positioning of the actual bars.

I hope I'm making sense with this. Regardless, I'm certainly not returning my phone over it, because to create the situation I need to be in a dark room with a blank white background, and have a very low brightness set. It's not part of my regular use case. But still, I find it pretty fascinating.

I've noticed the same thing on mine too. I have at least 3 or so burn in's of the navigation bar going up my screen. The strange part is that they are not static. If I have an app in landscape, the back button moves with it in the burn in. I would also like an answer to this question!

Google something called "Image Persistence" which isn't really burn-in, but a secondary image that doesn't quite go away. A future software update from Motorola could correct this, if it is the issue. Not sure if this could be the problem.

 

[Carpentractor]

I have the same thing on my moto x. I seem to have two or three bands across my phone and yes, they are more visible when the screen is dimmed. They seem to be static and unrelated to anything that is persistent on my screen, especially considering my wall paper is just black! Hopefully this gets to Motorola's attention. Whenever I try to tell them anything, they don't belive me!

 

[raptir]

I honestly thought amoled displays were immune from burn in. Every pixel is just a microscopic group of LED's. To get a specific color the LED's are blended. If you think about it every pixel should either be on or off.

Obviously I'm totally wrong, and I'd love for someone to explain the science behind burn in on an AMOLED screen.

I'm fortunate to not have any burn in. Every phone and tablet I have had with an LCD panel has developed burn in.

This is... exactly why burn in happens. AMOLEDs are incredibly vulnerable to burn-in and LCDs are impossible to burn-in, so I have no idea how you managed to get an LCD to burn-in. LCDs can get image persistence but running the screen with changing images will remove that.

AMOLED screens burn in because the LEDs wear unevenly. The nav bar and status bar are the two most common places. If you look at the nav bar, you have a large block of black pixels (which are all completely off, being unused) and a few small groups of bright white pixels (which have all of their pixels on). LEDs lose brightness over time as they are used, so the LEDs that are on to draw the navigation keys will become dimmer while the rest of the black bar will stay brighter.

And again, LCDs have absolutely no method of action to experience permanent burn-in, so there's something else going on with your devices.

 

[raptir]

Also, what OP is saying doesn't seem like burn-in. Burn-in would only occur on the screen where the images persist. If it is elsewhere on the screen I'm really not sure what would cause that.