What do you think of the Nexus 5 Compromises?

[Pollster]

The Nexus is supposed to show off what can be done with the newest Android, not hardware. On a Nexus, advanced Android gets optimized to generic hardware, not the other way around.
It's up to manufacturers to take that example and spin it off into something that smokes.

 

[Ry]

I think this was more true for the first two Nexus phones. Starting with the GNex there was a concerted effort to bring this to the masses, and the N4 was certainly a phone meant for more than developers. Now any Nexus device will be dev friendly because of unadulterated Android OS. But this is first and foremost a value phone with top (but not quite cutting edge) hardware, sim unlocked, at an affordable price.

I'm assuming you mean app developers, not ROM developers.

 

[Pollster]

No. Manufacturers. Google shows everyone how to optimize stock Android to generic hardware and then it's up to Samsung, Motorola, LG, HTC, etc to try to outdo them. Funny how none of those companies can even keep up. They almost all focus on the hardware and figure they don't have to optimize Android to their product at all. Just write whatever you want, throw features in by the bucket, and let hardware pick up the slack. Motorola is the only one trying. If they build a spec beast that is optimized to Android like the X, it could be the hero phone everyone is looking for.

Not everything is about ROMs

 

[jerrod6]

I expect Google to make compromises. Without that, there is NO WAY they can sell the phones at the prices they do. If we don't want this then we need to be prepared to pay more.
I would rather the compromise come at the camera end than anywhere else because I can always get a camera app like HDR+ from the play store to compensate. Like Pollster says It's true that most OEM's don't develop software that is optimized, they just write sloppy code that works, but then requires massive amounts of RAM to store the executables, and a fully loaded processor to reduce performance lag...and even then sometimes there is lag. Think the GS4...released with high spec hardware...bloated software...phones lagging....fixed by software update from Samsung.
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[Mobius360]

I don't get it, there is going to be something that has to give for the prices a Nexus phone have been.

I have a G2 and I'll say this. The camera is by far the best I've used in a smartphone. If they can get something close on a Nexus people should be happy. The screen on the G2 is really just perfect, if they get this tech on the Nexus people should be pretty happy. The battery on the G2 lasts a long time, yes it appears the Nexus will have a smaller battery than the G2 but it should easily still last all day.

Everyone wants the Nexus to be a $1000 spec phone for $200. It sure seems they are offering a lot to me for the prices.

 

[MrSlippery519]

I don't get it, there is going to be something that has to give for the prices a Nexus phone have been.

I have a G2 and I'll say this. The camera is by far the best I've used in a smartphone. If they can get something close on a Nexus people should be happy. The screen on the G2 is really just perfect, if they get this tech on the Nexus people should be pretty happy. The battery on the G2 lasts a long time, yes it appears the Nexus will have a smaller battery than the G2 but it should easily still last all day.

Everyone wants the Nexus to be a $1000 spec phone for $200. It sure seems they are offering a lot to me for the prices.

Well said! Also the only thing that was a concern was the battery however 2300mah is still a decent size if the phone is optimized for it. My GS3 is 2100mah I believe and I get through a day no problem under normal circumstances. Also the S800 is supposed to be great for battery life, plus 4.4 may have some better optimization in there to help.

 

[Anilu7]

Well said! Also the only thing that was a concern was the battery however 2300mah is still a decent size if the phone is optimized for it. My GS3 is 2100mah I believe and I get through a day no problem under normal circumstances. Also the S800 is supposed to be great for battery life, plus 4.4 may have some better optimization in there to help.

Not sure that a 2300 mAh sealed battery for a 5" screen is the best idea. If it was 3000 mAh then no problem. But I, as other posters have remarked, am worried about not being able to swap out the battery in a pinch or replace it in a year or two as the battery life shrinks normally. I am a heavy user and this would be a problem for me as the last thing I want is to be hooked up to a charger part-way through the day. My phone has to last me through the day.

 

[Shilohcane]

Well the 8MP sensor is made by Sony that is the same chip in the Apple 5S & 5C. Nexus 5 has optical image stabilization that does make a big difference in image quality. Now the lens is the key to the quality. About the 2,300 mAh battery the Nexus 5 with it's 4.95 inch screen is smaller than the larger LG G2's larger 5.2 inch screen. So a smaller battery would be expected in a smaller phone that screen also won't use as much power. It's expected that Kit Kat will improve standby performance for better energy conservation.

If the Nexus 5 service manual details are correct, the Nexus 5 will offer up to 690 minutes talk time on CDMA networks, 405 mins on GSM, 530 mins on WCDMA and 230 minutes on LTE.

I just learned this that WCDMA. (Wideband Code Division Multiple Access). Wideband CDMA is a ... 384 Kbps. WCDMA was the 3G technology used in the US by AT&T and T-Mobile. Before I saw that I thought AT&T and T-Mobile used only GSM.

 

[JonK]

Well the 8MP sensor is made by Sony that is the same chip in the Apple 5S & 5C. Nexus 5 has optical image stabilization that does make a big difference in image quality. Now the lens is the key to the quality. About the 2,300 mAh battery the Nexus 5 with it's 4.95 inch screen is smaller than the larger LG G2's larger 5.2 inch screen. So a smaller battery would be expected in a smaller phone that screen also won't use as much power. It's expected that Kit Kat will improve standby performance for better energy conservation.

If the Nexus 5 service manual details are correct, the Nexus 5 will offer up to 690 minutes talk time on CDMA networks, 405 mins on GSM, 530 mins on WCDMA and 230 minutes on LTE.

I just learned this that WCDMA. (Wideband Code Division Multiple Access). Wideband CDMA is a ... 384 Kbps. WCDMA was the 3G technology used in the US by AT&T and T-Mobile. Before I saw that I thought AT&T and T-Mobile used only GSM.

The term CDMA is really rather confusing. CDMA is colloquially used to describe a family of technologies in the evolution path used by "CDMA" carriers (just as GSM refers to a family of technologies on the GSM evolution path). In this use it is actually shorthand for CDMA2000. The term CDMA (code division multiple access) however is a specific methodology for how you communicate with several users from a single station (other methods include TDMA, FDMA, ect). All modern wireless technologies combine different multiple access methods to make most efficient use of time and spectrum. So yes, you were correct, ATT and T-mobile do only use GSM. W-CDMA is a technology used in the UTMS standard, which is the 3G standard within the GSM evolution path. Both GSM and CDMA2000 carriers chose LTE (long term evolution) for further evolution of their networks.

Hope that made things less confusing, not more.

 

[DrewDT]

Rumors abound, maybe another battery will be offered to mitigate the compromise of the 2300 mah initial report.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...tery-packs-possibly-heading-nexus-5-leak.html

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