What the EVO 4G needs...

[Dunpeal]

Android has true multitasking. I'm not denying WebOS has a great interface for switching between running apps, but that doesn't mean Android doesn't multitask in the true sense of the word.

Here's a great article that explains how it works: Android Developers Blog: Multitasking the Android Way

Thanks for the article it answered other question I had. However though it still does not convince me as being "True Multi Tasking".

I think the issue with WebOS is that its Multi Tasking Ability, in the use of cards, is related alot to Windows. So in a sense, they work simular in multi tasking, which is where "True Multi Tasking" may have been derived from.

Now, indeed if this be the case of the article, Android has a unique multi talsking ability that is not a custom to our traditional experience of "true multi tasking".

If the "LEAP" feature in the HTC devices is extended to apps rather than just being limited to the home screen this would be "True Multi Tasking".

WebOS by far has the best multi tasking ability in the mobile market. This is the only thing I miss with the Palm Pre. Android has won my heart with the EVO all thumbs up.

However I dont thing my days of WebOS is over. HP will be coming out with a Tablet with WebOS very soon. So Android would be my perfect solution in a phone.

 

[Rudementry]

Back on topic - What the Evo needs is better packaging. Seriously I'm not looking for a microwaveable Stouffer's.

 

[BrianFX]

and wireless-N

You've got to be kidding me.. the 54Mbps that 802.11g provides is not enough for your phone??

 

[cl191]

You've got to be kidding me.. the 54Mbps that 802.11g provides is not enough for your phone??

It's not that it's not fast enough, problem is that I have to enable G mode on my router just for the phone and drag everything else down with it. Besides that, N has longer range too.

 

[letsgoflyers81]

Thanks for the article it answered other question I had. However though it still does not convince me as being "True Multi Tasking".

I think the issue with WebOS is that its Multi Tasking Ability, in the use of cards, is related alot to Windows. So in a sense, they work simular in multi tasking, which is where "True Multi Tasking" may have been derived from.

Now, indeed if this be the case of the article, Android has a unique multi talsking ability that is not a custom to our traditional experience of "true multi tasking".

If the "LEAP" feature in the HTC devices is extended to apps rather than just being limited to the home screen this would be "True Multi Tasking".

WebOS by far has the best multi tasking ability in the mobile market. This is the only thing I miss with the Palm Pre. Android has won my heart with the EVO all thumbs up.

However I dont thing my days of WebOS is over. HP will be coming out with a Tablet with WebOS very soon. So Android would be my perfect solution in a phone.

You're welcome. But I don't think you understand what multitasking is. It's the ability for multiple tasks (or applications) to run at the same time. Android does that just as well as WebOS. They can both have a media player playing music, while a web browser downloads and renders a web page, while an e-mail clients downloads mail while you chat with someone over IM, etc. What you're talking about is the graphical interface WebOS uses to display multiple running apps, switch between them, and close them. I admit that WebOS does this wonderfully, but that has nothing to do with the OS' ability to multitask and whether it does that better than Android or not.

I'd be happy if Android's window shade would display running apps and not just notifications. Since Matias Duarte left Palm for Google, hopefully they can implement a more user friendly way of juggling running apps for the next release of Android.

This certainly isn't perfect, but this app looks like a nice way of expanding Android's stock ability to show the last six running apps to the last fifteen. Show 15 Recent Apps with MoreRecent for Android | xda-developers

 

[JoshK]

I think what the HTC Evo needs is ME!

 

[Yourdogsdead]

I think what the HTC Evo needs is ME!

There we have it. The end of the thread folks.

 

[Dunpeal]

Back on topic - What the Evo needs is better packaging. Seriously I'm not looking for a microwaveable Stouffer's.

The topic is what the SPrint EVO 4G phone needs ? We were elaborating on this in comparison with another OS

 

[Dunpeal]

We are being Contructive on what the HTC EVO Needs ie the Android OS/UI

You're welcome. But I don't think you understand what multitasking is. It's the ability for multiple tasks (or applications) to run at the same time.

I know and understand very well what "Multi Tasking" is in a technological environment.

Android does that just as well as WebOS

When it comes to this, the term "True Multi Tasking" is what is at hand if it is applicable or not to the Android 2.1 and 2.2 coming.

Coming from the PC world not only running mutiple applications at the same time is required by the definition but also being able to "see these application windows" at the same time also. Transition of application view is easier in the WebOS whereas in the Android it is less.

For example:

*WebOS requires one gesture to view all "open" applications from 8 to 24 (depending on how much memory the apps takes up)

*Android Requires (from what I have discovered) holding down the home button to view the last 6 "used" apps that may not be open, or sliding down the curtain to see notifications. Even so, depending on the app, when selecting the app it may restart it, or doing an overlaped duplication, and not take you back to where you left off.


WebOS allows you to open multiple apps at the same time and to view those apps at the same time

Android allows you to open multiple apps, and to view the last open or closed icons of those apps. To improve this we need LEAP to be extended to veiw open applications. This will surpass WebOS Multitasking ability as it can hold more apps in view than the WebOS.

What you're talking about is the graphical interface WebOS uses to display multiple running apps, switch between them, and close them.

Aha ! We are singing the same song. This is where the HTC LEAP concept will play a vital roll if it is extended to open apps.

I admit that WebOS does this wonderfully, but that has nothing to do with the OS' ability to multitask and whether it does that better than Android or not.

Again, not argueing about multitasking applied to the Android, I acknowledge this. The issue raised if its considered "true multitasking". True multitasking is not just running multiple (more than one) app at the same time in the phone arena per the market. There are some basic mutimedia phones that can play music and txt, and look up contact etc all at the same time. So they also have a mutiltalking ability but it is not true multi tasking.

Android puts apps in the background until called forth, WebOS "open" apps are always up front until closed.

I'd be happy if Android's window shade would display running apps and not just notifications. Since Matias Duarte left Palm for Google, hopefully they can implement a more user friendly way of juggling running apps for the next release of Android.

Yes, and indeed this will be coming, no doubt.

This certainly isn't perfect, but this app looks like a nice way of expanding Android's stock ability to show the last six running apps to the last fifteen. Show 15 Recent Apps with MoreRecent for Android | xda-developers

Sweeet ! thanks for the link that helps alot.

For others that are reading, we are not "OFF TOPIC" we are elaborating on what the HTC EVO 4G needs and sharing thoughts to in hope to see those improvements.

 

[brandon bailey#AC]

a more elegant UI and multitasking would be perfect =)

 

[Runningwarrior08]

a more elegant UI and multitasking would be perfect =)

It does muti-task, please read the posts above yours.

 

[DirkBelig]

WebOS allows you to open multiple apps at the same time and to view those apps at the same time.

If this actually worked in the real world consistently, I wouldn't be counting the days until I can replace my launch Pre with an EVO. On a good day, I've had email, web, Twitter, and messaging open simultaneously and bouncing between them was a joy. Now, however, the all-too-normal condition is to open a basic web page (e.g. IMDB) and within 10 minutes, getting a Too Many Cards alert or, as happened to me just now, getting an email, clicking the link to a page, and TMCing to a dead halt. Sure, rebooting sometimes helps, but that's 3+ minutes of downtime while the slowest-booting phone ever winds itself back up. (The first thing I looked for in Google I/O unboxing videos was the boot time of the EVO which looks to be about 40 seconds.) I hear the Pre Plus was much better for TMC and lag, but that's academic for me; Sprint doesn't have it, so it's like hearing a friend's mom doesn't make dry pot roast for Sunday dinner.

The Pre and webOS is like having a beautiful girlfriend with a personality that meshes with yours, but has an uncontrollable urge to ritually sacrifice your pets and leaps on the coffee table, hikes her skirt, and take a massive dump when you have company over. As much as you'd like to keep the things you enjoy, the demerits are just unacceptable to live with.

Four days to go...

 

[Droidus Maximus]

This device is just plain and simple...a sexy beast. My BBerry has a physical keyboard and it never goes away, thus the small screen. Full physical keyboards mean sliding, flipping or something that was cool when I was a few years younger than my 42 years of now. LoL

 

[dave12285]

The Pre and webOS is like having a beautiful girlfriend with a personality that meshes with yours, but has an uncontrollable urge to ritually sacrifice your pets and leaps on the coffee table, hikes her skirt, and take a massive dump when you have company over. As much as you'd like to keep the things you enjoy, the demerits are just unacceptable to live with.

This is halarious btw.
I also own a pre and I'll throw in my two cents. The pre multitasking is much better visually and in theory, functionally. The problem, I would guess, is the lack of available RAM on the pre. A good example is when you're browsing the web and click an embedded youtube link. After watching the video, especially a longer one, the webpage will be forced to reload when you retun to it. If the windows could all stay open at their current state I would not be waiting for the EVO.

As to what a wish the EVO had...native inductive charging, a threaded hole for a tripod and the ability to show anything on the screen over HDMI.

 

[BrianFX]

It's not that it's not fast enough, problem is that I have to enable G mode on my router just for the phone and drag everything else down with it. Besides that, N has longer range too.

Ah ok, fair points. I wonder when we'll start to see N pop up in phones.

 

[npark]

The problem, I would guess, is the lack of available RAM on the pre.

And here is where I think Palm and Sprint did its customers a disservice by not offering the Pre+ feature set as the default launch Pre.

The Pre+, with 512mb of RAM, has triple the AVAILABLE RAM, (double the physical memory, but essentially triple the available memory after the OS and other services acting as overhead are factored in) really shines. Playing around with my friend's Pre+, even without overclocking (I'm at 800mhz, he's at 500mhz stock) it appears to run smoother and can run more apps at once. This is pretty frustrating.

 

[DirkBelig]

And here is where I think Palm and Sprint did its customers a disservice by not offering the Pre+ feature set as the default launch Pre.

Agreed. Palm learned from their mistakes with the first run of Sprint Pres and improved the construction, keyboards, and RAM in later iterations. The problem is that us launch users were the guinea pigs and we have the worst versions of the phone and no option to even upgrade to a Plus on Sprint because they're the only carrier running the old gimped version.

While Sprint's not losing customers over us jumping to EVO, it's going to be a massive drain for HPalm. It probably hurts their already struggling efforts at getting developers to support it as it becomes clear that the early adopters are abandoning ship. Not only does that mean fewer existing users, it also means fewer evangelists telling people to buy Pres and get the cool apps they use. It's a self-fueling downward spiral. Pity.