What's Keeping Gingerbread?

[HTCSense]

The Nexus One was announced during January, they had a dedicated press event for that where invites were sent a week before (Dec 29)

I'm pretty much sure they'll do a conjoined press event for both Gingerbread And the Nexus S when the time comes. Whenever that is.

 

[Stang68]

Maybe they'll release it on Cyber Monday...it's possible.

All I want is a stock Android device like a Nexus on Verizon. I don't wanna wait for updates anymoreeee.

 

[gundamunicornmeister]

I bet they found a few showstoppers that caused Google to delay it. Hopefully they are taking the additional time to clean up the UI further so the Android haters will quit complaining about it.

What I'd wish is for Google to totally own the upgrade experience. Google needs to take the upgrade path out of the carriers hands, & allow everyone running Android to get a version of Gingerbread. It's sad that so many devices that could run FroYo doesn't have an upgrade path. Google needs to make it right and just get everyone up to Gingerbread.

 

[Baconator]

Well I would advise anyone who is wanting to upgrade to a new phone to get a Vanilla Android device, because you are sure to get ugrades before others and look at the Nexus One its almost 1YEAR old and still getting updates before other devices usually devices get one update and then they are trash (no offense). I know because I have a HTC Hero and hate not having FroYo so I am waiting for the Nexus S so I will be sure to get updates.

 

[GeoKaplan]

This may be one of those times when the rumor mill had the story right...

There was a story on one of the Android websites when the Nexus S was delayed (after the leak of the Best Buy ad mockup, etc). The story was that Samsung testers determined the phone needed a dual-core CPU, and thus plopped one in the Nexus S.

The problem, though, was that Gingerbread wasn't optimized for dual-core processors. This seems strange, since it has been a given that dual-core CPUs were arriving Q1 of 2011.

Still, this would explain the delay in bringing the software out, especially a delay which seems very last-second, based upon the Kremlinology of the arrival of the statue, etc. Both the Nexus S and Gingerbread could see their arrival before Christmas, but this is something which will simply happen on its own schedule.

Meanwhile, Google needs to get Gingerbread out into the marketplace so it can bring Honeycomb out shortly thereafter. Honeycomb is the OS built for tablets, and given the heat in that sector of the market it makes sense that Google and the manufacturers want Honeycomb out ASAP.

 

[yoinks]

GB

I assumed that the Nexus One pre-Gingerbread update meant that something was found that had to be fixed before folks could update to Gingerbread. And therefore, the delay.

I think that will need to be fully rolled out before Gingerbread can be released (again, assuming that installing Gingerbread is dependent on the last Froyo update).

 

[mattgyver83]

Well I would advise anyone who is wanting to upgrade to a new phone to get a Vanilla Android device, because you are sure to get ugrades before other

I agree however for those willing to learn the processes rooting the phone is a great way to go to extend features of Android phones, especially as they get longer in the tooth. Granted this is can be overly complex for some users (and gets easier depending on how long the device has been on market) it beats waiting for carriers to upgrade your device and in some cases give you sub-par upgrades as well with their skinned interfaces further degrading quality and the overall android experience.

As a long time Android user and fan, Google really needs to get control of the carrier upgrade situation or provide users with more freedoms for taking control of the update process for their device otherwise it does not matter what great features they put into future iterations of Android it will be hard to maintain the CONSUMER android base as they watch features roll out they cannot take advantage of on phones that they may have just got in some cases.

In some ways I think it makes the point that the death of android isn't fragmentation of the system, but more likely to be a fragmentation of the user base.

 

[beez1717]

I'm starting to wonder if google has gingerbread done but they are waiting until each and every phone manufacturer has completed their port to all the phones they want updated. That might make for a simultaneous release across the board. All I hope i that the droid 1 gets the update

 

[Chris Kerrigan]

I agree however for those willing to learn the processes rooting the phone is a great way to go to extend features of Android phones, especially as they get longer in the tooth. Granted this is can be overly complex for some users (and gets easier depending on how long the device has been on market) it beats waiting for carriers to upgrade your device and in some cases give you sub-par upgrades as well with their skinned interfaces further degrading quality and the overall android experience.

As a long time Android user and fan, Google really needs to get control of the carrier upgrade situation or provide users with more freedoms for taking control of the update process for their device otherwise it does not matter what great features they put into future iterations of Android it will be hard to maintain the CONSUMER android base as they watch features roll out they cannot take advantage of on phones that they may have just got in some cases.

In some ways I think it makes the point that the death of android isn't fragmentation of the system, but more likely to be a fragmentation of the user base.

As much as a lot of us would probably love to see that happen, I'd bet my top dollar it never will. The reason is that Google pits Android as completely open source. HOWEVER, before someone says then that would be one way for Google to maintain that claim, you might want to think again. In a sense, Google taking away any amount of control from the manufacturers or even the carriers also takes away from that open source concept.

It's a double edged sword in reality. Just a thought.

 

[Smokexz]

Uhm whoever ever said it's been holding up? I still cannot believe you guys have not caught on by now... It was aimed at a Q4 2010 release, now... with this name it might mean that it is aimed at a December release. Maybe it is next month? Maybe not the 25th, but definitely within the coming weeks(probably December? lol) Along with that, we could very well see the Nexus S.

 

[Chris Kerrigan]

Uhm whoever ever said it's been holding up? I still cannot believe you guys have not caught on by now... It was aimed at a Q4 2010 release, now... with this name it might mean that it is aimed at a December release. Maybe it is next month? Maybe not the 25th, but definitely within the coming weeks(probably December? lol) Along with that, we could very well see the Nexus S.

Sometimes I wonder if people get confused with Q4 (or any other quarter for that matter) in a Calendar year vs. a quarter in a fiscal year, which are two very different time frames.

 

[mboothwv]

It will be a Cyber-Monday Curprise. Go Gingy!

 

[GuyverV]

Seems like if there was a holdup / change of direction with the next Nexus hardware platform, it would explain why Google debuted Gingerbread and then nothing much happened. Google could also hold it up until they're ready with their own Nexus hardware. On the other hand, what is being trumpeted that woukd be particularly useful for the carriers? Especially when many top shelf phones (Samsung Galaxy series, and others) have still not received the froyo 2.2 updates in the USA.

i just flashed the 2.2 cognition rom last night (first time flasher). once it settled in, it worked great.

 

[GuyverV]

all i care about is whether or not the rom from the nexus s can be ported to my captivate. no way i'm waiting 6 months for 2.3.

 

[jlmcnamara]

Gingerbread will come out after black friday.. too much hype with the sales of that and after that day people focus on christmas and those sales and new items begin to launch.. look for gingerbread the first week of december.

If so, then somebody needs to send Google to retail school. Christmas shopping is pretty much in full force come Black Friday. If anyone is gifting someone a phone, that phone better be on the market before this Thursday otherwise some other phone is going to be bought in its place.

It's most likely that Google has too many cooks in the kitchen and have been resetting priorities.

 

[PhxBlue]

Gingerbread = Christmas = "Next few weeks" = Christmas...

 

[Nirvana328]

I'm no expert, but I remember reading that when google releases an OS upgrade, they usually release a SDK to go with it for the developers to start tinkering and exploring all the new features of the OS. So I would expect to see a Gingerbread SDK released first, then maybe I'll start worrying about when Gingerbread will be released.

 

[booboolala2000]

I think they will release it soon. Not sure of/if there actually is a holdup.

It is funny to me owning a Droid X and hearing anyone say that people are being impatient and why rush them to release a buggy premature under developed software. Umm, have you tried Motorizons version if Froyo, it is almost total garbage. The version I have seen on the nexus is heaven by comparison.

So we wait for Google, take as long as you need Google. Then we wait for Motorizon to jack/hack it up. If it takes longer than six weeks, sign me out of Motorizon. That would just mean that they are seeing how deep they can go to disable more features.

 

[icebike]

Gingerbread = Christmas = "Next few weeks" = Christmas...

I agree.

FRG83D appears to be needed first. (Otherwise what would be the point).

And FRG83D isn't being widely pushed yet. Virtually Nobody has gotten a push, and the push of Gingerbread won't happen till D is pushed.

As I've posted elsewhere, My Froyo push didn't happen till about 4 weeks after first pushes started. If they push D and then start Gingerbread, we have three more weeks till Gingerbread STARTS, and 7 weeks till it gets around to my Nexus. (At&T model).

That's my prediction.

If they push Gingerbread right on the heels of FRG83D you would see some reports of it happening already to those few who already report D was pushed to their phones (all of them todate have been T-Mo Nexus ones).

If you haven't seen D, you are not getting Gingerbread.

 

[twinsfan1313]

Oh Geez, I just went though this with 2.2..........................happy x owner though!!