When is TMobile getting pie ??

There's no supported way to refuse firmware updates, though it's possible with some work. But that's not a solution, because then you have to refuse security updates too, which are critical for safe use of a smartphone. (Otherwise, you'd be right.)


No, it's not adequate to pay $1000 for a phone and then "wait" weeks or months before it works as advertised. Furthermore, the camera downgrade appears to be deliberate, and there is no indication that Samsung intends to reverse it. But if it was accidental, then it was negligent on Samsung's part, because automated unit tests and regression tests are a standard part of software engineering, and they prevent that sort of thing.

Manufacturers have a legal and ethical obligation to take reasonable steps to provide products that work as advertised. And if they can't, they have an obligation to acknowledge it and offer full refunds for returns.

There is no legal obligation whatsoever. You are at their mercy for software updates if features are removed or altered. You agreed to it when you bought it, and you might as well stop complaining about it.
 
Mod note: There seems to be a bit of the thread going off topic. Please return to the topic of discussing when the update will come to TMobile. Any other discussion of other topics should be posted under the most appropriate thread or create a new one.

There is no legal obligation whatsoever. You are at their mercy for software updates if features are removed or altered.

Please respect the moderator's request, instead of using this thread to make false claims about Samsung's legal obligations. (Do you think Samsung could, for example, remove all features except the phone app? Fortunately, that's not what the relevant consumer-protection law says.)
 
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I gave in and updated using the SD card method. Actually like the new update a lot. Biggest thing I don't like is it seems Samsung adopted the UI sizing setup Google did, so things are either too big or too small. I'm sure I'll get used to it again just like I did on the pixel
 
I gave in and updated using the SD card method. Actually like the new update a lot. Biggest thing I don't like is it seems Samsung adopted the UI sizing setup Google did, so things are either too big or too small. I'm sure I'll get used to it again just like I did on the pixel

Way to go! I got tired of waiting too and updated, it was the right thing to do.
 
I gave in and updated using the SD card method. Actually like the new update a lot. Biggest thing I don't like is it seems Samsung adopted the UI sizing setup Google did, so things are either too big or too small. I'm sure I'll get used to it again just like I did on the pixel

I'll probably won't go with this method but did you still get all the T-Mobile bloatwear?
 
I'll probably won't go with this method but did you still get all the T-Mobile bloatwear?

Only what I left installed. (the TMobile app, and visual voicemail) Everything else I had disabled or uninstalled and that remained that way.
 

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