WHERE THE %@$& is the stock androids on verizon??

[colbysbb]

I would compromise. They can keep putting their junk apps on, but leave the UI and google apps alone!

 

[El Jefe]

Do they not care if I leave for t-mobile?

To be quite honest...no...they won't care because they will still have >104,000,000 customers without you & the overwhelming majority of them don't even KNOW what a stock Android phone even is. Would it be good business to offer a stock Android? Sure, plenty of people would buy it...but it would just be us phone geeks who even know the difference.

If you want to go to T-Mobile, Sprint, or AT&T to get a Nexus phone or any upcoming stock Android phone, you totally should. Sprint & T-Mobile's plans are less than VZW's so you will save some $ each month anyway.

Myself, as much as I would like a stock Android, I am content with getting the bloatware off myself by rooting & freezing it because the other carriers aren't even an option because I chose Verizon because of their coverage area. You get what you pay for, in my opinion.

 

[shamefulzero]

To be quite honest...no...they won't care because they will still have >104,000,000 customers without you & the overwhelming majority of them don't even KNOW what a stock Android phone even is. Would it be good business to offer a stock Android? Sure, plenty of people would buy it...but it would just be us phone geeks who even know the difference.

If you want to go to T-Mobile, Sprint, or AT&T to get a Nexus phone or any upcoming stock Android phone, you totally should. Sprint & T-Mobile's plans are less than VZW's so you will save some $ each month anyway.

Myself, as much as I would like a stock Android, I am content with getting the bloatware off myself by rooting & freezing it because the other carriers aren't even an option because I chose Verizon because of their coverage area. You get what you pay for, in my opinion.

the reason i'm with verizon is so my family can get my company discount. i'm not with them by choice! so i would leave them in a heart beat! but i wanted to give them the chance to redeem me!

 

[srkmagnus]

the reason i'm with verizon is so my family can get my company discount. i'm not with them by choice! so i would leave them in a heart beat! but i wanted to give them the chance to redeem me!

Even without a company discount Sprint is probably cheaper on a shared family plan, with unlimited data. Plus, the same discount is probably offered on Sprint.

People, we need to realize that Stock Android OS' are not going to be pushed to market. Nobody wants a BMW with manual windows, no AC, and no push to start ignition. The same applies to a phone. The more bells and whistles it has the better. Maybe not from a usability standpoint, but from a marketing gimmick to push a device out the door and have a new two-year contract on the network. Don't get me wrong. HTC Sense, Motoblur have their perks and set the phones apart. My first, and current, Android device is a Sprint Hero with Sense. I know what sense is about so I'm not being biased. I love it, but it bogs the phone and prevents it from being 100% useable.


Google realizes their is a development community and has released the Nexus series to help fit that void.

At this point I'm just rambling. In summary, plaing vanilla phones will not become the norm, imo. It would be nice, but not realistic.

 

[TuxDotKing]

I know it sucks, I kind of want to leave Verizon too. I'm sticking with Verizon for the time being though, gonna wait for the Nexus 3 to come out to see what the new generation of ICS phones are gonna be like (not holding my breath on a Verizon Nexus though). If the Nexus 3 steps it up in specs (especially display specs, I'd take a SAMOLED+ over the iPhone's Retina display anyday, but I still wish they'd bump up the resolution on high-end Androids), I'll wait for an ICS device with an unlocked bootloader to hit Verizon. If the Nexus 3 doesn't really have much of a spec advantage, I'll get the Samsung Galaxy SII.

I'm really starting to hate Verizon for their attitude towards the Nexus series, but I can't just switch because of that (not yet, anyway). I'm stuck in a rural area where they're the only reliable carrier for right now. I wish that things were flipped and Sprint had the best coverage, but that's just a fantasy.

 

[shamefulzero]

Every where I ever went when I had Sprint I had excellent coverage. It cracks me up that virgin announced all they're android phones will be skin free and have vanilla android. They are on the Sprint network. They are even cheaper than Sprint! Sounds like I found my right direction. Unless Verizon gets its $%&* together and offer some vanilla androids soon!

 

[experiment 626]

I know the OP doesn't care for the form-factor but to others looking for vanilla Gingerbread on Verizon check out the Xperia Play,which came very close to being the next Nexus phone until Samsung beat out SonyEricsson for the rights: Sony Ericsson Xperia PLAY Confirmed as Former Gingerbread Hero Phone | Android Community

 

[Dark Wizard Matoya]

I know the OP doesn't care for the form-factor but to others looking for vanilla Gingerbread on Verizon check out the Xperia Play,which came very close to being the next Nexus phone until Samsung beat out SonyEricsson for the rights: Sony Ericsson Xperia PLAY Confirmed as Former Gingerbread Hero Phone | Android Community

I was actually very tempted to give up my Droid Incredible for the Xperia Play, but in the end I decided to hold off and wait for the Nexus Three. I'm just glad Verizon finally has a pure Google phone.

 

[lembowski]

I'm fine with the phones coming with their skins and bloatware, I really am. I just wish they would give the end user that buys the device the ability to load a stock version of Android on their phone. Have an application like device manager for the Blackberries and let us make the decision which one we want.

If Android is so open source that should be transparent to the customer.

 

[Dark Wizard Matoya]

I'm fine with the phones coming with their skins and bloatware, I really am. I just wish they would give the end user that buys the device the ability to load a stock version of Android on their phone. Have an application like device manager for the Blackberries and let us make the decision which one we want.

If Android is so open source that should be transparent to the customer.

I've always thought that if we have to have the manufacturer custom UI's they should be optional. When the user is setting up they're phone for the first time let them pick between the custom UI or pure AOSP Android. And they can really push the custom UI if they want. "Use HTC Sense and get all these super awesome features! Or just use plain old vanilla Android." The important thing is that we would have a choice.

 

[shamefulzero]

I was wondering if vzw would get the nexus 3since it rumored to be an lte device. but since it was announced today sprint would deploy lte i bet they will be the carrier of choice for the N3. im outta contract next month and have the patients to wait to see wait the N3 brings. i cant wait for the news but i doubt it will be on verizon and verizon needs more stock phones. i said in one of my original posts i dont like the play cuz i dont want a game pad! but verizon should have released another stock experia with just a touch screen!

 

[anon24860]

I wonder how much of the bloatware is financially driven through payments from bloatware suppliers. If bloatware means a cheaper phone, then it might be worth suffering it, especially since most of it can be dealt with by savvy users. It might also be more of a consideration about network's resistance to rooting, even more so than the off-quoted "don't want the user gumming up the works".

 

[shipwrestler125]

I wonder how much of the bloatware is financially driven through payments from bloatware suppliers. If bloatware means a cheaper phone, then it might be worth suffering it, especially since most of it can be dealt with by savvy users. It might also be more of a consideration about network's resistance to rooting, even more so than the off-quoted "don't want the user gumming up the works".

I dont really care if they add bloatware. I mean they can keep doing that. What I care about is the skins and locked bootloaders they stick these phones with. They can load all the bloatware they want as long as its stock android with an unlocked/unlockable bootloader. Its the fact that with the skins slows updates down extremely and that is the main reason people want stock.

 

[shamefulzero]

I dont really care if they add bloatware. I mean they can keep doing that. What I care about is the skins and locked bootloaders they stick these phones with. They can load all the bloatware they want as long as its stock android with an unlocked/unlockable bootloader. Its the fact that with the skins slows updates down extremely and that is the main reason people want stock.

Exactly! I don't care about the bloat either! But skined isn't android to me! And our options are slim without skins. No reason Verizon can't release another stock. Ppl will buy it!

Stock, 4' screen, 8mp cam front facer, great processor. it can be done.

 

[cordoni]

Thunderbolt has Sense, and it is awesome! I have used ROMs based on ASOP, and like Sense better. It is just more integrated. So, not everyone thinks skins are evil.

 

[Dark Wizard Matoya]

Exactly! I don't care about the bloat either! But skined isn't android to me! And our options are slim without skins. No reason Verizon can't release another stock. Ppl will buy it!

Stock, 4' screen, 8mp cam front facer, great processor. it can be done.

I don't want a phone bogged down with an absurd amount of bloatware like the Dinc2 or the Charge, but if given the choice between Pure Android with more bloatware and a manufacturer custom UI with less bloatware I would take pure Android with the bloatware. The Nexus phones are easy enough to root anyway, so getting rid of bloatware shouldn't be a huge problem.

 

[shamefulzero]

so i guess droid prime is going to be vanilla? figures! i give up waiting and get a D3 and after my 30 days are up this news comes out about a possible vanilla droid coming out.

 

[lennyj17]

Keep wishing with the "Droid" branding it'll be anything but Vanilla