Which galaxy tablets use an SSD?

[nuraman00]

Which galaxy tablets use an SSD? How can I tell?

What's the cheapest tablet with a good SSD?

 

[anon(10614692)]

None of them have hard drives with plates, like PCs.

 

[nuraman00]

What type of storage technology do they use, then?

 

[J Dubbs]

What type of storage technology do they use, then?

Solid State technology.... an SSD Same thing as a phone. No moving parts except the vibration motor

 

[B. Diddy]

All modern mobile devices use flash storage for their internal storage. I usually think of an SSD being a discrete hard drive that uses flash storage, which would be a component of a laptop or desktop, but it's essentially the same thing as the flash storage in a mobile device. But as Galactic Zoo said, there are no mobile devices that use spinning hard drives any more.

 

[nuraman00]

Here's what confuses me, when I read a sentence like this, comparing the A7 v S6 Lite.

Don't both devices have SSDs?

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laptopmag.com/news/samsung-galaxy-tab-a7-vs-galaxy-tab-s6-lite-battle-of-the-midrange-tablets


The 64GB Galaxy S6 Lite configuration costs the same as the Galaxy Tab A7’s 64GB model, but it offers a solid-state drive and 1GB more RAM.

 

[B. Diddy]

I think that's just bad tech journalism. You can see in this video that there is no discrete SSD unit in the tablet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y2u62EmAjQ

 

[B. Diddy]

After doing some digging, I wonder if what that article meant was that the Tab S6 lite uses UFS 2.0 flash memory, while the Tab A7 uses eMMC. UFS is faster than eMMC.

 

[nuraman00]

So I had my search narrowed down to a Galaxy Tab A7 or S6. I was going to see both in person, and decide.

But then, I saw that the S6 didn't come with a headphone jack, which is a dealbreaker.

I then started looking at the Lenovo P11 Pro.

Can you see from a reputable source whether it has UFS or eMMC?

These two say it has UFS:

https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/...id-tablets-not-from-samsung-for-the-holidays/

https://www.slashgear.com/lenovo-tab-p11-pro-gives-ipad-pro-an-affordable-rival-31635694/

I could get a usb c to 3.5mm adapter but it's annoying to have to carry another small apparatus, in addition to hdmi extenders for a fire stick that I have, and charging cables. Less extra stuff is better.

The more stuff like that I have to carry, the greater the chance I forget something.

So if you think those are reputable sources, and that the P11 Pro does have UFS, then it might come down to the A7 or the P11 Pro, depending on what I think in person.

Maybe I think the cheaper one, its display, and eMMC storage, are fine. Or maybe I want the P11 Pro. But at least the A7 has a 3.5mm jack.

 

[J Dubbs]

So I had my search narrowed down to a Galaxy Tab A7 or S6. I was going to see both in person, and decide.

But then, I saw that the S6 didn't come with a headphone jack, which is a dealbreaker.

I then started looking at the Lenovo P11 Pro.

Can you see from a reputable source whether it has UFS or eMMC?

These two say it has UFS:

https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/...id-tablets-not-from-samsung-for-the-holidays/

https://www.slashgear.com/lenovo-tab-p11-pro-gives-ipad-pro-an-affordable-rival-31635694/

I could get a usb c to 3.5mm adapter but it's annoying to have to carry another small apparatus, in addition to hdmi extenders for a fire stick that I have, and charging cables. Less extra stuff is better.

The more stuff like that I have to carry, the greater the chance I forget something.

So if you think those are reputable sources, and that the P11 Pro does have UFS, then it might come down to the A7 or the P11 Pro, depending on what I think in person.

Maybe I think the cheaper one, its display, and eMMC storage, are fine. Or maybe I want the P11 Pro. But at least the A7 has a 3.5mm jack.

Since your main concern is speed.... for the most part either will do the job just fine. The biggest impact on speed will be in the processor.....if you plan on doing serious high graphics gaming, the faster processor and graphics chip is where you need to be looking

 

[B. Diddy]

This official Lenovo document confirms it has UFS: https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/Lenovo_Tablets/Tab_P11_Pro/Tab_P11_Pro_Spec.pdf
@J Dubbs, I agree that the SoC is the main determinant, but the flash memory type can also have a big impact, since the faster read/write speeds of UFS can be noticeable in certain situations.

 

[nuraman00]

Since your main concern is speed.... for the most part either will do the job just fine. The biggest impact on speed will be in the processor.....if you plan on doing serious high graphics gaming, the faster processor and graphics chip is where you need to be looking

This official Lenovo document confirms it has UFS: https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/Lenovo_Tablets/Tab_P11_Pro/Tab_P11_Pro_Spec.pdf
@J Dubbs, I agree that the SoC is the main determinant, but the flash memory type can also have a big impact, since the faster read/write speeds of UFS can be noticeable in certain situations.

Great find with the official specs. I could not find this yesterday.

I won't be doing any gaming. I prefer either consoles or desktop for gaming, at home.

My usage will be either video conferencing, video streaming, or downloaded / memory card media playback.

Or web browsing.

Physical media playback will be a lot more rare, than video conferencing / streaming.

How important is the difference in RAM, for this type of usage? 3GB vs 6 GB.

Also, do either of these have anything similar to Gorilla Glass?

 

[J Dubbs]

This official Lenovo document confirms it has UFS: https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/Lenovo_Tablets/Tab_P11_Pro/Tab_P11_Pro_Spec.pdf
@J Dubbs, I agree that the SoC is the main determinant, but the flash memory type can also have a big impact, since the faster read/write speeds of UFS can be noticeable in certain situations.

B thanks for taking the time to do the research.... you are always helping us lazy folk Your patients are extremely lucky to have someone like you caring for them

 

[B. Diddy]

Great find with the official specs. I could not find this yesterday.

I won't be doing any gaming. I prefer either consoles or desktop for gaming, at home.

My usage will be either video conferencing, video streaming, or downloaded / memory card media playback.

Or web browsing.

Physical media playback will be a lot more rare, than video conferencing / streaming.

How important is the difference in RAM, for this type of usage? 3GB vs 6 GB.

Also, do either of these have anything similar to Gorilla Glass?

For basic usage, 3 GB should be fine, but 6 GB will certainly give you smoother overall performance.

The Lenovo looks pretty darned good on paper. I think they make decent tablets -- I have the Lenovo Tab M8 FHD as well as the older Tab 4 8", both of which aren't superfast powerhouses by any means, but are good values and pack a lot of nice features for the price. I also have the Lenovo Chromebook Duet, which shares a lot of design cues with the P11 Pro, and is an unbelievably good package, especially for its price.

One of the only downsides of Lenovo vs Samsung is that Lenovo isn't as good when it comes to updates. They typically only supply one major Android version upgrade for their tablets, while Samsung will probably give at least 2 for their flagship tablets (and they'll also have more frequent security patches).

 

[nuraman00]

For basic usage, 3 GB should be fine, but 6 GB will certainly give you smoother overall performance.

The Lenovo looks pretty darned good on paper. I think they make decent tablets -- I have the Lenovo Tab M8 FHD as well as the older Tab 4 8", both of which aren't superfast powerhouses by any means, but are good values and pack a lot of nice features for the price. I also have the Lenovo Chromebook Duet, which shares a lot of design cues with the P11 Pro, and is an unbelievably good package, especially for its price.

One of the only downsides of Lenovo vs Samsung is that Lenovo isn't as good when it comes to updates. They typically only supply one major Android version upgrade for their tablets, while Samsung will probably give at least 2 for their flagship tablets (and they'll also have more frequent security patches).

Thanks.

What is the screen physically like on your Lenovo tablets? It appears the P11 Pro isn't in retail stores. So I won't be able to see it in person.

Do you think the P11 Pro's screen would feel better, harder, and be more scratch resistant, than the cheaper Galaxy Tab A7?

That's why I was asking if there was some kind of glass coating on the P11 Pro.

 

[B. Diddy]

Samsung has always been known for its excellent displays (especially on its flagships), but I've read the A7 is a bit subpar for them, since it's only an LCD, with 329 nits of brightness. The P11 Pro has an OLED that has 500 nits of brightness, so it will likely look brighter and more vibrant (although I can't say for sure, since I can't compare them).

The screen on my Lenovo Tab M8 FHD is quite good (LCD, 350 nits), so I would guess the P11 Pro's will be superb.

It's hard to say how durable the glass on my M8 FHD is, though (because I generally baby my devices). I will say that the older Lenovo Tab 4 8" did develop a tiny crack in the glass from regular usage, but I don't know if that can be generalized to their current devices.

 

[nuraman00]

Placed an order for the Lenovo Tab P11 Pro, 6 GB version. I'll update this thread with what I think, after I get it.

 

[B. Diddy]

Nice! I've been looking at some YouTube reviews for it recently -- looks like it holds up nicely, even against the mega-flagship Galaxy Tab S7.

 

[nuraman00]

While I'm waiting for it to arrive (it hasn't shipped yet, shipping delays), any idea on where I can put the stylus?

The 3rd party case I ordered comes with a 3rd party pen. But there's no place to put the pen.

I had wanted a case that had a pocket, or a hook to put the pen. But Since this P11 Pro is new, there weren't folio type cases that were sold in the US, available.

I did see some coming from China, but I'm not waiting 3 - 5 weeks for a case. I need get this tablet, get the case, start using it, and seeing how I like it, especially for the personal zoom calls that I want to use it for.

Right now, I use my desktop for most video calls, except for one recurring one that just started, where I need to use something portable, so I use my work laptop. But I want to stop using a work laptop for personal Zoom calls, so that's why I'm getting a tablet.

I just make sure the quality, connection, and angle that I'll use this tablet for, during the calls, is desirable.

So the cover that I got for the tablet, is more like the kind that goes around it, with the option to prop it up. It's not the folio case kind, which is what I had wanted, but as I said, I couldn't find one that shipped from the US.

What do you think of this zippered case?

https://www.amazon.com/Pawtec-Shock...ag=hawk-future-20&ascsubtag=UUacUvbUpU6904700

Seems like it would be useful in storing the charging adapter, as well as the stylus.

This will be my first tablet.

 

[B. Diddy]

That case looks fine, although you might find it a little wide, since the iPad has a 4:3 screen ratio, compared to the P11 Pro's more typical 16:10 ratio.

If you don't mind a pen holder that uses adhesive, try something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Volin-Crik-S...ag=hawk-future-20&ascsubtag=UUacUvbUpU6904849