Who can't wait for fingerprint scanners on their phone?

[dpham00]

Then use a dumbphone. Simple solution. No need to send any personal data anywhere that way, except for the phone numbers (and location in some of those) of the phone you're using and the number you're contacting. Wait, they can then use that to track you. Bad idea. Just don't use a phone at all.

If one was the worried about tracking, don't go outdoors either, they can track you by satellite.

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[dpham00]

If 'they' is the two-bit punk next-door. Sure.
If 'they' are feds or hackers they couldn't care less about your individual phone. 'They' are only interested in cracking millions of phones ? including yours and mine ? at the same time. And their collectively stored fingerprints are the prize. Collectively stored fingerprints are the 'X' on the treasure map.

The government already has my fingerprint, as they probably do with most Americans. Even if I didn't use fingerprint scanning, they can steal government database.

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[Golfdriver97]

I know the government has my prints. When I applied for a securities license, and when I applied for the military.

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[ffejjj]

They have my prints for a not so honorable reason. KO'd a guy on the Vegas strip....sigh

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[rrballer11]

Fingerprint scanner is a selling gimmick. My PIN is more secure technically. Fingerprint scanner is not a big deal

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[Fr0gburp3r]

Passwords, PIN's and patterns can easy be seen if they look over your shoulder when unlocking your device. Fingerprint scanners takes that risk factor out.

 

[Vsweety]

"They" already know everything about us. No need to gather our fingerprints.

Of course there is! They need to associate and confirm (each of) your new mobile device(s) with you! As well as what you do with/on it. Your fingerprint scanner does that for them. A couple dozen times a day.

 

[UJ95x]

Of course there is! They need to associate and confirm (each of) your new mobile device(s) with you! As well as what you do with/on it. Your fingerprint scanner does that for them. A couple dozen times a day.

Yeah, because the account isn't already associated with you

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[nolittdroid]

No thanks. I have no desire for my fingerprint to be stored somewhere on someone's server. The idea is cool, I guess.

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[Kevin OQuinn]

Yeah, because the account isn't already associated with you

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And location, and browsing habits, and forum usernames, and phone numbers, and call history, and text history.

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[Vsweety]

Yeah, because the account isn't already associated with you

'Association with' ? a.k.a. as 'registered to' on the internet ? is not enough (edited by Moderator)
If someone was killed with the car that is registered to you that doesn't automatically prove that you were behind the wheel ? a.k.a. personally responsible ? when it happened, does it?
Does nobody else ever use your phone?

 

[UJ95x]

'Association with' – a.k.a. as 'registered to' on the internet – is not enough (edited by Moderator) .
If someone was killed with the car that is registered to you that doesn't automatically prove that you were behind the wheel – a.k.a. personally responsible – when it happened, does it?
Does nobody else ever use your phone?

No, just me

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[Kevin OQuinn]

'Association with' – a.k.a. as 'registered to' on the internet – is not enough(Edited by Moderator)
If someone was killed with the car that is registered to you that doesn't automatically prove that you were behind the wheel – a.k.a. personally responsible – when it happened, does it?
Does nobody else ever use your phone?

But they will still question you.

Name calling is a great way to prove your point too. Gives you so much credibility.

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[dpham00]

Please keep things civil.

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[SlackBlade]

More than likely the fingerprint is converted into a number. That number is then written on a secure location on the chip. When the finger is scanned, it converts the number again and compares it to the stored number. If they match, it unlocks. This is similar to how a Hardware Security Module (HSM) for PIN for an ATM is used. The HSM data can never be read directly ever,no matter what you do. It can only respond when a value is entered to tell you if it matches. If you try to access the chip directly, the data automatically corrupts.

We know there is at least one secure eliminate or space on the phones if they support Near Field Communication (NFC). It would stand to reason that the fingerprint data is stored there or in another secure element on the phone.

Depending on how strict the phone is with its matching criteria, which would have to balance a slightly crooked or misaligned finger with security and speed, it will be more secure then a PIN which can already be broken based on time constraints only. Patterns, depending on how complex, are more secure than PIN, but both would suffer from "shoulder surfing" (watching over your shoulder as you enter it).

Therefore, the finger is probably the most secure and would be the most difficult to reproduce.

Edited autocorect errors.

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[wezi427]

I can wait

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