Who's leaving for the new BlackBerry phones?
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npunk42
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Look, I don't want to get on the wrong side of android users. The question was who will be switching to BB10. Not who thinks BB10 is better than android. Personally speaking for myself, I prefer the Blackberry. If the Q10 is a better Blackberry, then I look forward to trying it. It might be better, maybe not. Reviews and first impressions don't influence my preferences. I like the Note2 and will enjoy using it till the Q10 comes to the USA. I look forward to it. No big deal, just being honest. My phone is in my pocket most of the time, I don't care about the huge screen, I don't type well on a touch screen, I don't need the promise of a bazillion apps, Im not a gamer. Please don't take offense with me, I didn't ask the question.
Not me I'm a droid junkie.I like the way it looks but for more droid all the way.
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I would have considered getting the new Blackberry devices if they were released about 2 years ago. Had Blackberry phones prior to Android. No signs of going back no time soon.
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No. BB stock even took a hit after the intro of the new 10 series. Poor stock showing = less $ = slower, less innovative development = less support = dead company unless swallowed up by one of its competitors....
A simplified theory. Oh, I'll reiterate my answer to the thread title..... No
Sgt Jiggy "SG Note II"
A simplified theory. Oh, I'll reiterate my answer to the thread title..... No
Sgt Jiggy "SG Note II"
I will NOT be switching to the BB10. However, I do agree with this poster that the question wasn't which phone is better, but rather "Who's leaving for the new Blackberry phones?" Based on Npunk42's response it even sounds like the presence of a physical keyboard is important to their need(s)?
For me personally, I will not be leaving the Note 2 for any phone (Blackberry included), until an OEM can make a phone that uses Wacom technology. The S-pen is such an important part of my daily use that I could never use another phone without handwriting capability. In fact, I have the Note 10.1 and the two work great as companion devices.
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I get the feeling after like a month of owning bb10 most people will get bored with it. It doesn't have enough features to keep the hunger for more at bay like how the Note 2 dose
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i would only get the q10 to balance out my big phone issues. about once a week I want to use a smaller phone, mostly while in class. I am the unfortunate owner of a 64GB Playbook (dad got an iPad, i got the Playbook, which isn't bad if all you are doing is emailing on it)so if that gets updated then I will know for sure if I want the q10. If not then Ill pick up the Galaxy s3 mini or Galaxy express, those might do the trick.
im a big bb fan, evo 4g lte was my first droid phone, id have jumped back to a bb in a heart beat if it wasnt for getting a note2, now, theres a better chance of giving up my beer b4 i give up my note2. lol. my note2 amazes me even more today than when i first got it a month ago and its not even rooted. no phone has ever done that b4
the best keyboards for pixies with teeny tiny fingers and a teeny tiny screen to see your typing on. I never figured out the attraction to bb hardware. i stuck with pda's and dumbphones until i finally saw a windows mobile phone that had a screen big enough to utilize smartphone properties.
1812dave
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For you considering BB--here is an excerpt from a reviewer, which mentions even MORE negatives about the new BB than what I'd previously learned from other, earlier reviews ("little" things like a crappy camera, low speaker volume, call quality) . Read if you dare...
"Like most other attendees at the press conference on Wednesday, I was given a BlackBerry Z10 to take and explore. I got back to my office after the event, opened up the sleek packaging, and dove in.
Firstly, I did not find the BlackBerry 10 interface as confusing as many others seem to have. Confusing is a poor choice of words, I think. The UX in BlackBerry 10 is not confusing, it?s illogical in the context of the modern smartphone platform.
Android and iOS both have linear workflows. You open an app, you close an app. BlackBerry 10 also lets you open and close apps, but there are additional layers that are core to the experience. Swipes up, and down, and left, and right all perform different functions and reveal different layers. Some swipes do different things at different times. Some swipes in one direction expose layers that enter the UI from another direction.
It sounds overbearing but I found that after about 30 minutes of usage, I was able to navigate the UI fluidly with no problems. It?s just like Windows 8. The workflow is new and it takes some getting used to, but it?s really not that complicated. If I can do it, you can probably do it too.
With what is seemingly the biggest barrier to entry overcome, I began to dive deeper. The UI was cheerful and attractive. The display was bright and vivid. The performance was silky smooth. The Hub that aggregates all of my emails, text messages, BBM messages and Twitter notifications was a breath of fresh air.
And just when I started to think that BlackBerry is really on to something here, that BlackBerry 10 could really be something special, that this giant finally has legs? questions began popping up left and right. And they all started with ?why.?
Why isn?t there a visual notification with a message preview when a new email or BBM message arrives?
Why do the volume buttons still work when the phone is locked?
Why can?t I schedule profiles so my phone isn?t buzzing and chiming with alerts on my bedside table throughout the night? My RAZR HD is smart enough to know when to shut up. My iPhone is smart enough. My Galaxy S3 is smart enough. Why isn?t my Z10, with a brand new operating system, smart enough?
Why can?t I see what time it is when I?m in an app?
Why can?t I find a decent app?
Why do photos captured with the Z10′s camera look like they were taken with a flip phone from 2006 unless the subject is in optimal lighting?
Why does a swipe up on the BlackBerry Hub screen cause a panel to enter the UI from the right?
Why doesn?t is sync to the server instantly when I read an email as with other smartphone platforms, so other devices know to mark opened messages as read?
Why isn?t a BBM chat scrolled down to the most recent message when I get an alert and access the appropriate chat in BlackBerry Hub?
Why?
I could go on and on. Put plainly, BlackBerry 10 isn?t a platform of the future in its current state. It?s a platform of the present is some ways, and in many others it?s a platform of the past.
Early reviews of RIM?s first BlackBerry 10 smartphone paint a somewhat troubling picture. They all find drastic improvements over earlier BlackBerry platforms and they all find faults as well. The conclusions are almost unanimously worrisome, though. BlackBerry 10 is nice, the BlackBerry Z10 is nice, but there is no reason to choose either over Android or the iPhone.
This is not good news.
BlackBerry has a sizable installed base of just under 80 million users. It is from this group that analysts expect most of the new platform?s early adoption to come. Much of that installed base exists in the enterprise market, where upgrading to new server software and deploying new handsets is a costly endeavor. Another huge chunk comes from various consumer markets around the globe where low-cost handsets prevail and a $750 smartphone is out of the question.
For current BlackBerry users desperate for an upgrade, the Z10 is a fantastic option that makes BlackBerry 7 look sad and stale. The problem, though, is that BlackBerry 10 should make Android and iOS look sad and stale as well.
I?m not going to tell you that there isn?t a market for BlackBerry 10. Businesses that have BlackBerry phones deployed right now might find BB10 to be a great upgrade. Diehards will love it too, of course, because they would love anything BlackBerry put out. Just like iPhone diehards will buy any shiny new iPhone and Android diehards can?t wait for the next bump in specs.
But the mass market ? the millions of smartphone users and new business customers RIM needs to reel in ? might not be so easy to convince.
Frankly, people invested in other platforms have no reason to switch to BlackBerry 10. There are no compelling features present on the Z10 that are missing from their iPhones and Galaxy S3s, there is no striking differentiation, and they?ll lose most or even all of their favorite apps if they switch. It?s a very, very tough sell. Is it possible for BlackBerry 10 to gain a fair amount of traction with the right marketing message and the right sales pitch at retail stores? Maybe, but it?s a long shot at best.
With all that said, I sincerely hope BlackBerry has done enough to give current users incentive to open their wallets. I hope BlackBerry 10 attracts some new users as well. I hope the company sells millions of these new phones and I hope the revenue they generate is enough to carry BlackBerry forward as it uses BlackBerry 10′s building blocks to mold its new platform into something special.
The groundwork is there. I can see it. Yes, there are holes and yes, some are gaping. But with enough time I think BlackBerry can fill many of them. The question, though, is whether or not the company can also start building real innovation and compelling differentiation into its platform while also filling these holes. BlackBerry?s future may depend on the answer to this question.
We all now bear witness to what will inexorably be the beginning of the end for BlackBerry, or the end of the beginning."
"Like most other attendees at the press conference on Wednesday, I was given a BlackBerry Z10 to take and explore. I got back to my office after the event, opened up the sleek packaging, and dove in.
Firstly, I did not find the BlackBerry 10 interface as confusing as many others seem to have. Confusing is a poor choice of words, I think. The UX in BlackBerry 10 is not confusing, it?s illogical in the context of the modern smartphone platform.
Android and iOS both have linear workflows. You open an app, you close an app. BlackBerry 10 also lets you open and close apps, but there are additional layers that are core to the experience. Swipes up, and down, and left, and right all perform different functions and reveal different layers. Some swipes do different things at different times. Some swipes in one direction expose layers that enter the UI from another direction.
It sounds overbearing but I found that after about 30 minutes of usage, I was able to navigate the UI fluidly with no problems. It?s just like Windows 8. The workflow is new and it takes some getting used to, but it?s really not that complicated. If I can do it, you can probably do it too.
With what is seemingly the biggest barrier to entry overcome, I began to dive deeper. The UI was cheerful and attractive. The display was bright and vivid. The performance was silky smooth. The Hub that aggregates all of my emails, text messages, BBM messages and Twitter notifications was a breath of fresh air.
And just when I started to think that BlackBerry is really on to something here, that BlackBerry 10 could really be something special, that this giant finally has legs? questions began popping up left and right. And they all started with ?why.?
Why isn?t there a visual notification with a message preview when a new email or BBM message arrives?
Why do the volume buttons still work when the phone is locked?
Why can?t I schedule profiles so my phone isn?t buzzing and chiming with alerts on my bedside table throughout the night? My RAZR HD is smart enough to know when to shut up. My iPhone is smart enough. My Galaxy S3 is smart enough. Why isn?t my Z10, with a brand new operating system, smart enough?
Why can?t I see what time it is when I?m in an app?
Why can?t I find a decent app?
Why do photos captured with the Z10′s camera look like they were taken with a flip phone from 2006 unless the subject is in optimal lighting?
Why does a swipe up on the BlackBerry Hub screen cause a panel to enter the UI from the right?
Why doesn?t is sync to the server instantly when I read an email as with other smartphone platforms, so other devices know to mark opened messages as read?
Why isn?t a BBM chat scrolled down to the most recent message when I get an alert and access the appropriate chat in BlackBerry Hub?
Why?
I could go on and on. Put plainly, BlackBerry 10 isn?t a platform of the future in its current state. It?s a platform of the present is some ways, and in many others it?s a platform of the past.
Early reviews of RIM?s first BlackBerry 10 smartphone paint a somewhat troubling picture. They all find drastic improvements over earlier BlackBerry platforms and they all find faults as well. The conclusions are almost unanimously worrisome, though. BlackBerry 10 is nice, the BlackBerry Z10 is nice, but there is no reason to choose either over Android or the iPhone.
This is not good news.
BlackBerry has a sizable installed base of just under 80 million users. It is from this group that analysts expect most of the new platform?s early adoption to come. Much of that installed base exists in the enterprise market, where upgrading to new server software and deploying new handsets is a costly endeavor. Another huge chunk comes from various consumer markets around the globe where low-cost handsets prevail and a $750 smartphone is out of the question.
For current BlackBerry users desperate for an upgrade, the Z10 is a fantastic option that makes BlackBerry 7 look sad and stale. The problem, though, is that BlackBerry 10 should make Android and iOS look sad and stale as well.
I?m not going to tell you that there isn?t a market for BlackBerry 10. Businesses that have BlackBerry phones deployed right now might find BB10 to be a great upgrade. Diehards will love it too, of course, because they would love anything BlackBerry put out. Just like iPhone diehards will buy any shiny new iPhone and Android diehards can?t wait for the next bump in specs.
But the mass market ? the millions of smartphone users and new business customers RIM needs to reel in ? might not be so easy to convince.
Frankly, people invested in other platforms have no reason to switch to BlackBerry 10. There are no compelling features present on the Z10 that are missing from their iPhones and Galaxy S3s, there is no striking differentiation, and they?ll lose most or even all of their favorite apps if they switch. It?s a very, very tough sell. Is it possible for BlackBerry 10 to gain a fair amount of traction with the right marketing message and the right sales pitch at retail stores? Maybe, but it?s a long shot at best.
With all that said, I sincerely hope BlackBerry has done enough to give current users incentive to open their wallets. I hope BlackBerry 10 attracts some new users as well. I hope the company sells millions of these new phones and I hope the revenue they generate is enough to carry BlackBerry forward as it uses BlackBerry 10′s building blocks to mold its new platform into something special.
The groundwork is there. I can see it. Yes, there are holes and yes, some are gaping. But with enough time I think BlackBerry can fill many of them. The question, though, is whether or not the company can also start building real innovation and compelling differentiation into its platform while also filling these holes. BlackBerry?s future may depend on the answer to this question.
We all now bear witness to what will inexorably be the beginning of the end for BlackBerry, or the end of the beginning."
1812dave
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RIMM is sitting at just under 13/share at the moment. Wonder if it's gonna make it to under 8 again? Seems to me the world is not too thrilled with RIM new products. Having owned a BB, I can't quite follow the logic of anyone who thinks that the overhaul of the OS is going to make BB devices be more practical/fun/whatever, than the competition, which has been soundly battering RIM for the last couple of years. The items mentioned by the reviewer in my previous post aren't trivial complaints, IMHO. I owned a BB for over a year and it was the most obnoxiously confounding, irritating piece of equipment I've ever had the displeasure to own. Email?? HAH!! it sucked! truncated emails. servers going down. good grief--that's a load of crap when BB fans claim that BB is so great for emails. Emails on my Android devices on all my accounts (gmail, yahoo, comcast) are all quickly delivered and viewing them doesn't give me fits like truncation per BB.
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My wife works for an international company and even they are rolling iphones instead of blackberrys. It's a nice upgrade for blackberry owners but I don't see any android or iphone fans leaving. I know some people who don't use their smartphones fully and those may switch.
Its a mix of current iOS, android, and wp8 features. I foresee lawsuit city right around the corner for rim.
Edit: I mean blackberry.
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This is a joke right? I watched the videos and listened to the speech on bb10. No I won't ever consider BlackBerry again.
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my comment wasn't meant to be any kind of attack, just an honest curiosity... the Note is literally my first phone without a physical keyboard, and I was really torn on if I could survive without one or not. The combination of the big screen and s-pen have made the transition pretty smooth. I do love a blackberry keyboard though, so it would be tempting, but I really love the Note 2
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I believe BlackBerry still has its targeted audience which for them has usually been surrounded by the business world due to BlackBerry's proven security. Plus they are trying to pull in the social media audience so I do think they have a direction.
Will it work? Only time will tell
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