Why do (Android) phones need so many cores?

[Fr0gburp3r]

That could be why I never see problems either. I'm running the latest Apple hardware. I know though, that my wife with her iPhone 4 running iOS7 sees lag all of the time. I don't know how she tolerates it but I've tried to get her to upgrade and she's resistant. Good 'ole Verizon contract. I can NEVER understand why she went with an iPhone 4 just because there was no $$ down at the time. I couldn't be bothered with the level of performance she gets. I've read that when she does finally update to iOS7.1 things will be a little better for her, but she's dragging her feet.


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I have an iPhone 4S running iOS 7.1 and is lag free when navigating around the UI. Games is a different story for CPU/GPU intensive games but we obviously know why. My stock iPhone 5s running iOS 7.1 runs flawlessly.

 

[pappy53]

Well, lots of Apple people are. Even on this thread.

I have never stated that it is lag free or crash free. But there is much less lag than Android.

 

[JeffDenver]

I have never stated that it is lag free or crash free. But there is much less lag than Android.

I am not seeing any lag at all.

Here is a direct comparison of app speed as well in sequence (as you might actually use the phone)

I'd like to see some examples of this phantom "lag" everyone says is on Android. My Nexus 5 performs easily as fast as the video.

 

[pappy53]

I am not seeing any lag at all.

iPhone 5S vs Nexus 5 App Loading Speed (Speed Test) - Part 1 - YouTube

Here is a direct comparison of app speed as well in sequence (as you might actually use the phone)

iPhone 5S vs Nexus 5 App Loading Speed (Speed Test) - Part 2 - YouTube

I'd like to see some examples of this phantom "lag" everyone says is on Android. My Nexus 5 performs easily as fast as the video.

I could agree with you, if these were the only two phones in existence.

 

[JeffDenver]

I could agree with you, if these were the only two phones in existence.

It is definitely not a fair comparison...the Nexus 5 costs a lot less than the iPhone 5S.

 

[pappy53]

Nexus 5 lagging | Google Nexus 5 | xda-developers

http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-5/330913-nexus-5-problems-issues.html

They all have problems, whatever platform that you choose.

 

[JeffDenver]

Nexus 5 lagging | Google Nexus 5 | xda-developers

LOL! Dude, this is the very first sentence of your link:

"Going through some threads it seems most dont experience any lag "

They all have problems, whatever platform that you choose.

The whole point of my links is to demonstrate that iOS is not as perfect as a lot of people seem to think. This is assumed so much that people do not even question it anymore. I am dispelling iOS myths. Yes it has lags. Yes it has crashes. It is not special.

 

[pappy53]

"Going through some threads it seems most dont experience any lag "

Key word being "most", as in most iOS users on 7.1 aren't experiencing problems.

 

[JeffDenver]

Key word being "most", as in most iOS users on 7.1 aren't experiencing problems.

How did you determine that?

 

[Haalcyon]

Jeff, I have 3 iPads and 2 iPhones. None of them have shown any problems. Any. I'm not special in any way. I'm just your average iOS user. I have a feeling there are a lot more iOS users like myself, that are problem free, than have problems. As I've mentioned iOS 7.0.x doesn't run great on the iPhone 4 but I don't think that's a surprise to most. So, I can't speak for all iOS users, or even most, but I can tell you that my iGadgets, all of them, perform exceedingly well.


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[xchange]

I have never stated that it is lag free or crash free. But there is much less lag than Android.

No, there is less lag than a couple android manufacturers. There's a difference.

 

[Haalcyon]

Xchange, now you're picking on Samsung...and that's not nice. Heck, I got in trouble for picking on Samsung.


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[Fr0gburp3r]

It is definitely not a fair comparison...the Nexus 5 costs a lot less than the iPhone 5S.

My S4 has lag and cost more than the Nexus 5.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5HS12Mnr-s

 

[phonejunky]

Apple has invented very little. Mostly they repackage an idea and make it more polished.

It is ridiculous IMO to assume touchscreen phones would never have happened without Apple. They were already happening.


This was classic Steve Jobs. At one point he did not even deny stealing ideas.

The point always is. Where touchscreens are today started with Steve Jobs. He did it better regardless if the idea was already in motion and being done by others. He did it with the home computer, iPod, tablet and phone. He did everything better then the ones before him. Now every one of these categories are based off of his base model of the designs. He was a genius at taking other people ideas and making them his own.

 

[RavenSword]

It's an optimization thing. Since android isn't as tightly controlled as iOS, OEMs generally need to compensate for the lack of a controlled thing.

 

[JeffDenver]

Jeff, I have 3 iPads and 2 iPhones. None of them have shown any problems. Any. I'm not special in any way.

Well, you have already admitted you do not push your devices, right? So how would you know how they perform under load?

If your argument is "it doesn't lag or crash as long as you use it lightly" then I already agree with that.

I'm just your average iOS user. I have a feeling there are a lot more iOS users like myself, that are problem free, than have problems.

At least we have gone from "the iPhone is perfect" to "well, it's good enough for most people who use it". Thats progress.

As I've mentioned iOS 7.0.x doesn't run great on the iPhone 4 but I don't think that's a surprise to most.

ORLY? I thought support and updates was supposed to be a big bonus with the iPhone. "OMG you Android losers are using old versions of the OS, while we are all using the latest iOS on all our iPhones".

Another myth busted...aside from the fact that many new features are stripped on older devices (whether you like it or not) despite having the same version number of the OS, they still impact performance. You will pay a price if you upgrade to the latest iOS on your older device.

 

[phonejunky]

It's more or less you still get new features, and an update unlike Android no matter the magnitude of the update.

 

[JeffDenver]

The point always is. Where touchscreens are today started with Steve Jobs.

The point is, that is a myth manufactured by Apple. Apple invented nothing. All the technologies used in the iPhone were already present in other phones. Apple made them prettier and more appealing, but they did not invent them.

http://www.evilmilk.com/pictures/Apple929.htm

He did it better regardless

And Android is doing it better now.

No one is arguing that the iPhone was not a great product when it came out. Just that it was not revolutionary. It did not pioneer any of those technologies. Apple packaged a bunch of existing technologies into an appealing product.

He did everything better then the ones before him.

If that is true, why are most people still buying PCs and Android phones? Apple even lost marketshare on tablets to Android tablets. There is no market where Apple is chosen by the majority anymore.

 

[JeffDenver]

It's more or less you still get new features, and an update unlike Android no matter the magnitude of the update.

With stripped down features and lowered performance. But I guess it is still the same because the version number is the same, right? lol

 

[JeffDenver]

My S4 has lag and cost more than the Nexus 5.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5HS12Mnr-s

Well, the lag is obviously not because of Android.