Re: why does mobile hangouts suck?
I thought you had me on ignore, lol!
A label isn't what makes a product a beta product.
Why does mobile Hangouts suck?
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Re: why does mobile hangouts suck?
Lets keep things civil here. If you disagree with another members post or opinion and you can't discuss it reasonably then move along. Creating unnecessary drama is not doing any good and it won't be tolerated.
Paul
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Lets keep things civil here. If you disagree with another members post or opinion and you can't discuss it reasonably then move along. Creating unnecessary drama is not doing any good and it won't be tolerated.
Paul
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Re: why does mobile hangouts suck?
Wow no wonder I don't go on forums anymore LOL. Mobile Nations ones at least..
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Wow no wonder I don't go on forums anymore LOL. Mobile Nations ones at least..
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Re: why does mobile hangouts suck?
That's wildly inaccurate on every level.
That's wildly inaccurate on every level.
Re: why does mobile hangouts suck?
no it's not. Don't be an android fanboy. Google drops beta software on its users all the time without labeling it beta.
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Re: why does mobile hangouts suck?
You labeling everything new on Android as a "beta" has no bearing on whether or not I'm an "Android fanboy." It's entirely false and you evidently do not understand what a beta is.
But if you feel as though name calling gets your unsupported claim across, so be it; though my post had nothing to do with being a fanboy, so maybe it's best we assume you don't know what those are, either.
EDIT: We also aren't discussing whether or not Google releases beta software (we all know they do). We're discussing you wrongly claiming every "new" thing on Android is a beta, and that all Android users are first/early adopters.
You labeling everything new on Android as a "beta" has no bearing on whether or not I'm an "Android fanboy." It's entirely false and you evidently do not understand what a beta is.
But if you feel as though name calling gets your unsupported claim across, so be it; though my post had nothing to do with being a fanboy, so maybe it's best we assume you don't know what those are, either.
EDIT: We also aren't discussing whether or not Google releases beta software (we all know they do). We're discussing you wrongly claiming every "new" thing on Android is a beta, and that all Android users are first/early adopters.
Re: why does mobile hangouts suck?
I understand perfectly well. Don't be in denial. It is what it is.
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Re: why does mobile hangouts suck?
You do not. That's fine as you also evidently do not wish to discuss your incorrect views. Sitting back and name calling, or merely repeating yourself, furthers shows you do not have the grounds or facts to support your erroneous claims.
Enjoy.
You do not. That's fine as you also evidently do not wish to discuss your incorrect views. Sitting back and name calling, or merely repeating yourself, furthers shows you do not have the grounds or facts to support your erroneous claims.
Enjoy.
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Re: why does mobile hangouts suck?
Seems like the topic of Hangouts has gone out the window in here. Not to mention the participants in this thread have resorted to acting very childish.
FWIW, I use Google Hangout's mobile and on desktop all day long for managing our teams within the forums and its awesome. Not saying it can't use improvement but its simplistic in design and that's fine by me, I rather have plain and working that bells and whistles and constantly broken. SMS integration was a bonus too.
So if we can get back to the topic here without the mud slinging I'll leave the thread alone, otherwise it only takes a second to padlock the thread.
Paul
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Seems like the topic of Hangouts has gone out the window in here. Not to mention the participants in this thread have resorted to acting very childish.
FWIW, I use Google Hangout's mobile and on desktop all day long for managing our teams within the forums and its awesome. Not saying it can't use improvement but its simplistic in design and that's fine by me, I rather have plain and working that bells and whistles and constantly broken. SMS integration was a bonus too.
So if we can get back to the topic here without the mud slinging I'll leave the thread alone, otherwise it only takes a second to padlock the thread.
Paul
Moderator Team Leader @ Android Central.
I Can Be Your Hero
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Re: why does mobile hangouts suck?
Hangouts on desktop is superb. Really don't have any complaints there. On mobile......the whole app is a mess on multiple fronts imo:
1. As mentioned by the OP, the video calling 'hangouts' feature is really quite bad. Takes long to connect, video quality/lag is quite bad and just isn't a good experience all round. This is with wifi connections, high-end phones etc etc. Of the multiple times I've tried to have a video hangout on mobile, it's always turned out quite horrible. Other video calling apps like Skype do it better than Hangouts does.
2. SMS integration is done extremely poorly. Sure we can send/receive SMS from the Hangouts app now, which is nice, but hasn't been executed well. There are multiple conversation threads from contacts depending on whether they sent you a message from the Hangouts chat or SMS. They really need to address this and combine threads so it'll be the one, seamless conversation irrespective of whether the message was sent through Hangouts chat or SMS. Default to internet chat message, but if there is no internet connection, then send it as an SMS. But allow users to choose in the settings if they want to do that.
3. SMS messages received on Hangouts on the phone should be viewable on the desktop client and also needs to be backed up on the Hangouts servers. Basically whenever I use the Hangouts program, I should have every message available to me, and it shouldn't be different from device to device. SMS Hangout messages can't be seen on Hangouts on PC. Also, if I get a new phone, all my SMS messages are gone as they're not stored on Hangout's servers to sync like they do with the chat messages.
The design of the app is fine, don't have any issues with it, and chatting on it is great, and the little faces showing who's read up to where is an excellent idea, they just need to tweak things like the above to really make the app a spectacular messaging app.
Hangouts on desktop is superb. Really don't have any complaints there. On mobile......the whole app is a mess on multiple fronts imo:
1. As mentioned by the OP, the video calling 'hangouts' feature is really quite bad. Takes long to connect, video quality/lag is quite bad and just isn't a good experience all round. This is with wifi connections, high-end phones etc etc. Of the multiple times I've tried to have a video hangout on mobile, it's always turned out quite horrible. Other video calling apps like Skype do it better than Hangouts does.
2. SMS integration is done extremely poorly. Sure we can send/receive SMS from the Hangouts app now, which is nice, but hasn't been executed well. There are multiple conversation threads from contacts depending on whether they sent you a message from the Hangouts chat or SMS. They really need to address this and combine threads so it'll be the one, seamless conversation irrespective of whether the message was sent through Hangouts chat or SMS. Default to internet chat message, but if there is no internet connection, then send it as an SMS. But allow users to choose in the settings if they want to do that.
3. SMS messages received on Hangouts on the phone should be viewable on the desktop client and also needs to be backed up on the Hangouts servers. Basically whenever I use the Hangouts program, I should have every message available to me, and it shouldn't be different from device to device. SMS Hangout messages can't be seen on Hangouts on PC. Also, if I get a new phone, all my SMS messages are gone as they're not stored on Hangout's servers to sync like they do with the chat messages.
The design of the app is fine, don't have any issues with it, and chatting on it is great, and the little faces showing who's read up to where is an excellent idea, they just need to tweak things like the above to really make the app a spectacular messaging app.
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I prefer the Facebook Emoji. Some of the substitutions Google made make no sense, and they look cheap and childish. Ironically I have found myself using stickers a lot more, and I really like Facebook Messengers "thumbs up" quick reply button.
The most disappointing thing about Hangouts is the performance and needing Google+ to share images. Facebook Messenger is way faster, especially to load.
The inability to share images without Google+ pretty much killed it for everyone I know.
So I disabled it.
Is there a way to get Talk onto a 4.3 device?
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The most disappointing thing about Hangouts is the performance and needing Google+ to share images. Facebook Messenger is way faster, especially to load.
The inability to share images without Google+ pretty much killed it for everyone I know.
So I disabled it.
Is there a way to get Talk onto a 4.3 device?
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Re: why does mobile hangouts suck?
I use Skype "voice group chat" at least 1 a month for meetings and even that is okay at best. Again it plays on the individuals connection via mobile.
I barely even use my Google+ but as for sharing images via Google Hangouts I just upload images straight from my device or from my DropBox to Hangouts. I know it populates " privately " per Hangout room via your Google+ but I never pull anything in directly from Google+ or upload it there first to use within Hangouts.
Even if you can get Talk onto a 4.3 device its only a matter of time before Google completely shuts down Talk.
It maybe still considered beta in some aspects but compared to what a beta is usually known for this doesn't exactly fit the normal beta mold. Sure it has some issues video chat speaking but then again using Skype and other video chats they all have their moments. Mobile video chat is still based more on your signal quality/speed than it has to do with the software behind it IMO.
I use Skype "voice group chat" at least 1 a month for meetings and even that is okay at best. Again it plays on the individuals connection via mobile.
I wish that Google had a similar app to face time where it was integrated into the dialer.
They should make an app that is all 3. (Messaging, calling/contacts, and video chat)
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They should make an app that is all 3. (Messaging, calling/contacts, and video chat)
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Funny thing is... Talk was integrated like that in contacts, but Hangouts isn't...
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