Will the Note 5 have removable battery and storage?

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Re: Who else predicts doom and gloom for the Galaxy Note 5?

There doesn't seem to be anything it can do or do better over the Note 3 either.

Taking away the IR blaster for the Note 5 doesn't help.

Oh yeah I forgot about that. Well that's advancement isn't it? A smaller battery and no IR blaster. Great job.
 
Re: Who else predicts doom and gloom for the Galaxy Note 5?

"You guys know there is a reason the Samsung didn't put a SD card in the S6 and the Note 5 right? It cause they are using UFS 2.0 for the phones main storage:"
I don't believe that Samsung can't find a way to make these 2 work together side-by-side. I know it's a money grab. How else can you explain S6 pricing: $600 for 32GB; $700 for 64GB and $800 for 128GB. That's bull$&#% that you need to increase the phone $100 for each memory upgrade! I agree with a previous reviewer that said Samsung should just sell all phones with 128GB. But, they won't make as much money if they did. It's a money grab! The same thing Apple has been doing for years!!!

What sense would it make for Samsung to sell all phones with 128GB? Force folks who will never use a fraction of that capacity, to pay more?

The S-series and Note series devices are premium sets. Always have been. Just like the iphone always has been. If you disagree with the pricing then drop to mid tier and the lower tier segment as Samsung makes devices in those ranges as well with lower pricing. However, if your going to be looking at premium devices whether it's from Samsung or Apple or some other OEM, then expect to pay premium prices. It's that simple. If you think it's a money grab then look at the auto industry you'll find they do the SAME thing. It's business 101.
 
Re: Who else predicts doom and gloom for the Galaxy Note 5?

What sense would it make for Samsung to sell all phones with 128GB? Force folks who will never use a fraction of that capacity, to pay more?

The S-series and Note series devices are premium sets. Always have been. Just like the iphone always has been. If you disagree with the pricing then drop to mid tier and the lower tier segment as Samsung makes devices in those ranges as well with lower pricing. However, if your going to be looking at premium devices whether it's from Samsung or Apple or some other OEM, then expect to pay premium prices. It's that simple. If you think it's a money grab then look at the auto industry you'll find they do the SAME thing. It's business 101.

My suggestion is that if you're not going to have an SD card, then yeah, 128 GB standard to differentiate itself from Apple. If you do have an SD card, then perhaps 64 GB plus SD. Money grabbing is all good and well if you can afford to like Apple can because it is currently selling monstrously and can pretty well do as it pleases. When you are getting slaughtered in the premium end by Apple and losing sales in the bottom end to Chinese brands then you need to desperately change direction. I am not a marketing person or business person. I am just a consumer but as I look around I see the obvious need to distinguish yourself from Apple and the cheaper Chinese brands by offering very high value for money in its flagship models. With the S6, clearly being the most technologically advanced is not the answer. As I said before, the killer iphones make do with a mere HD display, no wireless charging, no IR blaster, 8MP cameras etc.

Samsung is not in the same position as Apple. I for one don't one to see Samsung go down like Nokia or Blackberry. Clearly their current strategies at the opposite ends, Galaxy S5 and S6 are not working. Make no mistake, if Samsung continues to lose profits every quarter like they have done like 5 now in row, they will go down the Nokia/Blackberry road.

On another note, pardon the pun, I think it is appalling if it is true that the Note 5 will have no IR blaster. That is a moronic executive decision and is reprehensible. If I was looking to upgrade now, on that alone I would give the Note 5 a miss because I love my IR blaster on my Galaxy S5. What clueless person at Samsung approved of that? To your shame.

I would still love to be buying Samsung phones in 5yrs from now. At the moment, they are in a dire situation. Sure they still tens of millions of phones but profits are steadily falling. Apple shows no sign of relenting and competition from cheaper manufacturers will increase. I don't want Samsung to relinquish one day their mobile division and stick to selling TV's and washing machines.

As an aside, look at Windows mobile. Most of their phones aren't moving well except one-the Lumia 530. That phone is killing it in the low end. Why? Extremely high value for money. A budget phone that has features no other phone in that price range is matching including a 5MP front camera. This is what I am suggesting for Samsung Galaxy and Note flagships. Value for money that Apple will not match in the high end. And value for money that makes it worth spending three hundred dollars more over a OnePlus or Huawei etc to get desirable features. As I keep on saying, keep technical innovations steady and regular on a tightly controlled budget. Make savings elsewhere like buying processors and give killer features no one else offers as standard. That is my suggestion for Samsung to recover and be number 1 again.

I also suggest opening up a formal middle range line. Say something like Galaxy M, for midrange. Galaxy M could be phones composed of former models mashed up together being directly priced in the OnePlus, Huawei range etc. And make them less conservative and business like, such as the Galaxy S and Note series, and more casual and funky with a range of brightly colored backs, like Windows phone does. For eg, a Galaxy M phone could have the camera from the Galaxy S5, the Note 4 processor, 32 GB standard with SD card. Plus a range of 5 bright and cool back colors in an aluminium back. The screen would be full HD. This is another suggestion I feel would be well worthwhile.
 
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Re: Will you buy the Note 5 if it doesn't have a SD card and/or removable battery?

I have tried almost every note and honestly i decided not to buy Samsung devices anymore for two reasons.

1. The day the device is released is already outdated. Note 4 came out and it took 7 months to get Android L. Now Note 5 is going to be out while Android M is ready to go.

2. Very poor Customer service.

I just got my Nexus 6 and I am enjoying so much the simple OS.

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Re: Who else predicts doom and gloom for the Galaxy Note 5?

There doesn't seem to be anything it can do or do better over the Note 3 either.

Taking away the IR blaster for the Note 5 doesn't help.

I'd like to know Samsung's answer to 'In what way is this phone much more advanced or better than the Note 3/4?' other than some superficial PR rubbish that we could expect them to say.

Sure, more screen resolution, a better camera, metal body - but these things are a given. I want to know what it is that Samsung worked hard to create to put into the Note 5, apart from a new Exynos. Like all android phones, the menus will still lag and stutter. (I thought project butter was supposed to end that...)

Phone advancement fronts change. Cameras, thin phones, processors, RAM, these things have already done their thing as spearhead features. There is a particular manufacturer (one of the chinese ones) still touting how thin their phones are, and don't realize they are embarrassing themselves.
We need new.

Design and software refinement. That's what Samsung focused on. Device hardware and technology have essentially caught up with each other. Incremental harware improvements should be everyones expectation these days.

Contrary to many people's opinion the S6 is the best galaxy S-series device Samsung has ever launched. Admittedly, underestimating the S6 edge appeal was a blunder, however, from design, to the camera, software features, and in house processor it was a win. I do believe the choice in battery size was a miss.

The Note 5 will be a strong addition in the Samsung lineup. It will be an improved Note versus previous Note's and will not simply just be on par with the previous versions. I'm happy with my Note 3&4, but the Note 5 will be a device worthy of an upgrade. Perhaps not from a note 4 if still under a contract, but certainly from a previous model for anyone looking to purchase something new.

Folks can continue to talk about Samsung's demise as I guess it makes for good forum talk. The thing is, they sell more devices than anyone on the market including Apple.

Other folks speak to samsung's sales decline. I say look at HTC and LG also, as they are not necessarily rolling in the dough either. The chinese makers are hurting these companies with their cheaper offerings (good specs) and is posing a problem. Meanwhile, Apple continues to do well however even their sales aren't necessarily hitting targets.

If naysayers look at things holistically I think they will see sd slots and sealed batteries aren't the problem. But rather price pressure (chineese oem's) and increased competition in the marketplace is.
 
Re: Who else predicts doom and gloom for the Galaxy Note 5?

Meanwhile, Apple continues to do well however even their sales aren't necessarily hitting targets.

That comment is soooooo wrong I don't even know how to contain myself to correct you. The iphone 6 exceeded by a mile all Apple's expectations. You can easily Google ( or Safari lol ) that to verify it.

If just irks me so much how low grade a phone like the iphone 6 is killing everything else. Something with a lousy 8MP camera with almost no manual settings, backwards HD display, smallest battery of any flagship phone, no IR blaster, no wireless charging. For goodness sakes, there isn't even a notification led to flash and light up to tell you that you have missed calls/messages, and to tell you the phone is fully charged. Pathetic.

And why should Apple spend more than they have to developing class leading technologies like Samsung does when they can be the market leader with such low grade specs. If you know that your next phone will be a runaway success with an 8MP camera for eg, why would you bother putting in a 16MP camera with wide aperature?

And to top it all off, the market leading phone with the lowest grade specs is the most expensive. Go Apple.
 
Re: Who else predicts doom and gloom for the Galaxy Note 5?

That comment is soooooo wrong I don't even know how to contain myself to correct you. The iphone 6 exceeded by a mile all Apple's expectations. You can easily Google ( or Safari lol ) that to verify it.

If just irks me so much how low grade a phone like the iphone 6 is killing everything else. Something with a lousy 8MP camera with almost no manual settings, backwards HD display, smallest battery of any flagship phone, no IR blaster, no wireless charging. For goodness sakes, there isn't even a notification led to flash and light up to tell you that you have missed calls/messages, and to tell you the phone is fully charged. Pathetic.

And why should Apple spend more than they have to developing class leading technologies like Samsung does when they can be the market leader with such low grade specs. If you know that your next phone will be a runaway success with an 8MP camera for eg, why would you bother putting in a 16MP camera with wide aperature?

And to top it all off, the market leading phone with the lowest grade specs is the most expensive. Go Apple.

Actually, the iPhone 6 has a pretty good camera.

I know that because I've used both the 6 and the 6 Plus.

It's not always about megapixels.

In fact, the shots featured on Apple's "Shot on iPhone 6" promotional material actually look great. I'm pretty sure my LG G4 can match those.

Also, regarding the manual controls, while the stock iPhone camera app doesn't have manual controls, there are camera apps in the app store that give manual controls almost exactly like what is found on the LG G4.
 
Re: Who else predicts doom and gloom for the Galaxy Note 5?

Actually, the iPhone 6 has a pretty good camera.

I know that because I've used both the 6 and the 6 Plus.

It's not always about megapixels.

In fact, the shots featured on Apple's "Shot on iPhone 6" promotional material actually look great. I'm pretty sure my LG G4 can match those.

Also, regarding the manual controls, while the stock iPhone camera app doesn't have manual controls, there are camera apps in the app store that give manual controls almost exactly like what is found on the LG G4.

I have compared my Galaxy S5 camera to a mate at work with his iphone 6 plus. Firstly, what I notice is how little Apple lets you pinch zoom any image. It is extremely limited, because obviously resolution is seriously compromised when pinch zooming too much. And why is that? That is purely because of 8MP only. On my Samsung I can pinch zoom a heck of a lot.

Outdoors, the Galaxy S5 destroys the iphone 6. Very high level of detail allowing a significant amount of pinch zooming before the image starts to degrade. In fact, outdoor images transferred to my Samsung tablet look like it's been taken on an expensive dedicated camera.

Indoors the iphone had an advantage where the Galaxy S5 would often give noise even in good light. However, with Lollipop, the indoors imaging has improved massively. I cannot believe how much of a difference it is now. I can shoot with the full 16 MP in low light with almost no noise or grain.

The only thing the iphone camera is better at is color accuracy. Samsung has always been a bit saturated. But indoors shooting is excellent whilst outdoors my Galaxy S5 kills the iphone. Plus I can transfer all photos to my SD card. So no contest at all.

And btw. That is with a superseded Samsung phone versus a current iphone. Go figure. Oh, and I can say "Shoot" and the camera takes a picture. That is not a gimmick. That is one of the most handiest camera features I have yet come across. You can actually very easily take extremely high quality selfies with all the rear camera features including flash by just turning the phone around and saying "Shoot".

But not of course in the iphone.
 
Re: Who else predicts doom and gloom for the Galaxy Note 5?

My suggestion is that if you're not going to have an SD card, then yeah, 128 GB standard to differentiate itself from Apple. If you do have an SD card, then perhaps 64 GB plus SD. Money grabbing is all good and well if you can afford to like Apple can because it is currently selling monstrously and can pretty well do as it pleases. When you are getting slaughtered in the premium end by Apple and losing sales in the bottom end to Chinese brands then you need to desperately change direction. I am not a marketing person or business person. I am just a consumer but as I look around I see the obvious need to distinguish yourself from Apple and the cheaper Chinese brands by offering very high value for money in its flagship models. With the S6, clearly being the most technologically advanced is not the answer. As I said before, the killer iphones make do with a mere HD display, no wireless charging, no IR blaster, 8MP cameras etc.

Samsung is not in the same position as Apple. I for one don't one to see Samsung go down like Nokia or Blackberry. Clearly their current strategies at the opposite ends, Galaxy S5 and S6 are not working. Make no mistake, if Samsung continues to lose profits every quarter like they have done like 5 now in row, they will go down the Nokia/Blackberry road.

On another note, pardon the pun, I think it is appalling if it is true that the Note 5 will have no IR blaster. That is a moronic executive decision and is reprehensible. If I was looking to upgrade now, on that alone I would give the Note 5 a miss because I love my IR blaster on my Galaxy S5. What clueless person at Samsung approved of that? To your shame.

I would still love to be buying Samsung phones in 5yrs from now. At the moment, they are in a dire situation. Sure they still tens of millions of phones but profits are steadily falling. Apple shows no sign of relenting and competition from cheaper manufacturers will increase. I don't want Samsung to relinquish one day their mobile division and stick to selling TV's and washing machines.

As an aside, look at Windows mobile. Most of their phones aren't moving well except one-the Lumia 530. That phone is killing it in the low end. Why? Extremely high value for money. A budget phone that has features no other phone in that price range is matching including a 5MP front camera. This is what I am suggesting for Samsung Galaxy and Note flagships. Value for money that Apple will not match in the high end. And value for money that makes it worth spending three hundred dollars more over a OnePlus or Huawei etc to get desirable features. As I keep on saying, keep technical innovations steady and regular on a tightly controlled budget. Make savings elsewhere like buying processors and give killer features no one else offers as standard. That is my suggestion for Samsung to recover and be number 1 again.

I also suggest opening up a formal middle range line. Say something like Galaxy M, for midrange. Galaxy M could be phones composed of former models mashed up together being directly priced in the OnePlus, Huawei range etc. And make them less conservative and business like, such as the Galaxy S and Note series, and more casual and funky with a range of brightly colored backs, like Windows phone does. For eg, a Galaxy M phone could have the camera from the Galaxy S5, the Note 4 processor, 32 GB standard with SD card. Plus a range of 5 bright and cool back colors in an aluminium back. The screen would be full HD. This is another suggestion I feel would be well worthwhile.

I could not agree more. Your argument is on point. Samsung should hire you to get them a true buyers perspective. Anyone who defends the S6 and Note 5 designs (feature removals) is simply an apologist for Samsung.

I am abandoning Samsung with this iteration of the Note and won't be back until they give us back what they're taking from us. If they never do, I'll make do with other manufacturers.
 
Re: Who else predicts doom and gloom for the Galaxy Note 5?

I have compared my Galaxy S5 camera to a mate at work with his iphone 6 plus. Firstly, what I notice is how little Apple lets you pinch zoom any image. It is extremely limited, because obviously resolution is seriously compromised when pinch zooming too much. And why is that? That is purely because of 8MP only. On my Samsung I can pinch zoom a heck of a lot.

Outdoors, the Galaxy S5 destroys the iphone 6. Very high level of detail allowing a significant amount of pinch zooming before the image starts to degrade. In fact, outdoor images transferred to my Samsung tablet look like it's been taken on an expensive dedicated camera.

Indoors the iphone had an advantage where the Galaxy S5 would often give noise even in good light. However, with Lollipop, the indoors imaging has improved massively. I cannot believe how much of a difference it is now. I can shoot with the full 16 MP in low light with almost no noise or grain.

The only thing the iphone camera is better at is color accuracy. Samsung has always been a bit saturated. But indoors shooting is excellent whilst outdoors my Galaxy S5 kills the iphone. Plus I can transfer all photos to my SD card. So no contest at all.

And btw. That is with a superseded Samsung phone versus a current iphone. Go figure. Oh, and I can say "Shoot" and the camera takes a picture. That is not a gimmick. That is one of the most handiest camera features I have yet come across. You can actually very easily take extremely high quality selfies with all the rear camera features including flash by just turning the phone around and saying "Shoot".

But not of course in the iphone.

Well, I'm not trying to say the iPhone has the best camera (well, it doesn't).

Just saying that it's not completely utter crap.
 
Re: Who else predicts doom and gloom for the Galaxy Note 5?

Apple isn't the one that's killing samsung, the chinese are.

No matter what kind of specs or new features samsung put on their newest phone, it wouldn't sell enough.

Sorry to say but samsung is slowly fading away...
 
Re: Who else predicts doom and gloom for the Galaxy Note 5?

Apple isn't the one that's killing samsung, the chinese are.

No matter what kind of specs or new features samsung put on their newest phone, it wouldn't sell enough.

Sorry to say but samsung is slowly fading away...

You are both right and wrong. Apple is killing Samsung in the high phone end. And Chinese manufacturers are taking away sales in the lower end spectrum. So you need a 2 prong attack, one for the high end and one for the lower end. A Galaxy M series that is midrange would be one way to deal with it. No big development costs needed. You use components from superseded models and price it comptetively. Just remember too. A competitively priced midrange Galaxy series would have one big advantage over OnePlus, Huawei etc. The name Samsung.

I've already spoken numerous times about how I would deal with the premium phone end.
 
Re: Who else predicts doom and gloom for the Galaxy Note 5?

That comment is soooooo wrong I don't even know how to contain myself to correct you. The iphone 6 exceeded by a mile all Apple's expectations. You can easily Google ( or Safari lol ) that to verify it.

If just irks me so much how low grade a phone like the iphone 6 is killing everything else. Something with a lousy 8MP camera with almost no manual settings, backwards HD display, smallest battery of any flagship phone, no IR blaster, no wireless charging. For goodness sakes, there isn't even a notification led to flash and light up to tell you that you have missed calls/messages, and to tell you the phone is fully charged. Pathetic.

And why should Apple spend more than they have to developing class leading technologies like Samsung does when they can be the market leader with such low grade specs. If you know that your next phone will be a runaway success with an 8MP camera for eg, why would you bother putting in a 16MP camera with wide aperature?

And to top it all off, the market leading phone with the lowest grade specs is the most expensive. Go Apple.

Actually, Apple missed their sales target on the iphone 6. Not a big deal because they still sold a boat load. But the target was still missed.

I wouldn't necessarily call the iphone 6 or any iphone lousy. The specs may not add up to the latest android devices however, what makes it an iphone is the ease of it all and the ecosystem. It appeals to a huge segment and regardless of the hardware it's always a hit.

Secondly, iOS is extremely refined so it doesn't need huge hardware specs to achieve top notch performance. Same goes for their entire product line.

What also makes Apple great is they continue to support their prior iphones with the latest software updates (no fragmentation) and without delay. Android devices cannot compete in that category.

So although it irks you, Apple is successful in the marketplace with their product. Just understand it's with good reason other than marketing a lousy device.
 
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Re: Who else predicts doom and gloom for the Galaxy Note 5?

Well of course not. Who would you expect to go out and do an exhaustive study worldwide and find all those people that didn't buy a Galaxy S6 and bought something instead and asked them why they didn't buy an S6? It's a bit like the religious debate and saying "Prove that God doesn't exist".

I didn't say the lack of an SD card on its own was the reason. I stated at least 4. Yes, lack of an SD card, along with a non removable battery and one that is smaller in capacity than the model it replaces is clearly one.

This is what led me to respond to your post on that point (emphasis in bold):

The reasons are reactions to the loss of the SD card especially, the price, the preference of the Edge version over the regular version and the supply difficulties of the Edge version which caught Samsung by surprise. Plus of course the slaughter in the market place of the iphone 6 models. All these have combined to make the S6 less profitable than initially forecast

I don't have an argument against your other listed reasons. It's obviously not hard to blame the increase in iPhone screen size and the low prices of Chinese phones for having a major impact on Galaxy S sales.
 
Re: Will you buy the Note 5 if it doesn't have a SD card and/or removable battery?

I'm sure everyone who said I'm not getting it because..... will.

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Well actually..........no. I have a Galaxy S5 which I am very happy with and am not looking to update until 2017 at least. But if I was looking to upgrade, believe it or not, the lack of an IR blaster seals the Note 5's fate with me. I have a couple of TV's at home, a couple at my folks home plus pay tv units, and a TV at work which I use my phone to control with. I would not sacrifice that feature and if I did upgrade now, I would turn to LG.

And to be honest, I concur with what the poster above me said. When I do update eventually, I will first look at Nexus devices because of the fast, direct updates from Google, just like Apple do with their phones. It took over 6 months for my Galaxy S5 to go from kitkat to lollipop. And I'm sure I'll wait months for a patch fix for stagefright. Direct updates from Google bypass all that plus all the advantages of running stock Android.
 
Re: Who is actually looking forward to (or has hope for) the Note 5?

I am excited for the note five, but all the missing features have me contemplating the Note 4, or even waiting for the upcoming LG G4 Note device that will appear later this fall.

I am upgrading from a galaxy S4, so I am far from a phone jumper. I got this phone in the spring of 2013. However it has many features which I am very much used to having, which Samsung has neglected to include in the note 5. Primarily, my SD card, replaceable battery, and IR blaster are all going away. On top of that, I am not unhappy with the performance of the snapdragon 600 series chip in my S4, which hasn't had any significant lag problems.

I got very excited about the note 5 when rumors included a 4100 MAH battery and the 7422 Xynos chip. Now that we are getting a 3000 MAH battery (smaller than my wife's S6 active) and the same chip is the S6, I'm a lot less excited, and I find myself flirted with the idea of holding out for a different device rather than buying the note 5 when it arrives.

I am looking forward to the big reveal, because I think Samsung will have something to set the phone apart from its competitors and drive sales. Not sure what, maybe new S-pen features, maybe promises of a quick upgrade to android M ( with android doze to help battery life) or maybe some hardware item different from what was already leaked. I am looking forward to the reveal, and probably looking for to the phone to, just not as much as I was a month ago when rumors were different

While the IR blaster may not be the most frequently used/sought after feature compared to removable battery/expandable storage, I hope that an IR blaster is included. I understand that at mass scale, removing components like those required for an IR blaster, can help reduce overall phone development/manufacturing costs.

If, however, keeping an IR blaster is not a materially noticeable cost or development/manufacturing challenge; then I think keeping the IR blaster would be another unique and differentiating feature.
 
Re: Who is actually looking forward to (or has hope for) the Note 5?

I was comfortable with battery when it was rumored to be 4100, 3000 though, i dont think so. They are going to have to do some serious convincing that the note 5 uses a lot less power. The whole fast charge is great, but im not near an outlet most of my shift, and besides, why go from an all day phone to a sub par battery?

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Yes, that's been one of the key benefits in the Note series. I've had the 2, 3, and now 4. Each have provided full day or more battery life without even having to micromanage settings or curb usage. Not having to worry about battery life during the waking hours is a nice thing.
 
Re: What do you NOT WANT to see in the Note 5?

^^^ Yes, with phones like the MotoX Style/Pure Edition at a reasonable cost off contract and bringing great features overall in a similar screen size/form factor - to me the S-Pen is starting to become one of the last big reasons to want a Note.
 
Re: What do you NOT WANT to see in the Note 5?

Okay, it seems that we have threads asking guys what they want from the Note 5.

However, it's time for something different. What do you NOT WANT to see?

The following is mine
  • 64GB not being the base storage
  • A smaller battery for the sake of a thinner profile
  • The same overly-horrendous RAM management from the S6
  • No expandable storage and removable battery without compensation
That's about it.

You just about covered it for me. I also don't want a glass back. It may look nice, but it lacks functionality. Thank you for starting this thread. It won't matter, seemingly, to Samsung. But our demands should be aired.
 
Re: Who is actually looking forward to (or has hope for) the Note 5?

For those that are concerned about the SD Card, you could get an SD Card USB adapter and connect it to your phone and use it like that... I think that's even safer than leaving it in ur phone

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Imo, it is a bit of a hassle having to deal with a usb stick. I would rather get a battery case with sd card slot built in. Solves the battery problem and sd card problem Not aware of one for the note 5 yet but there is one for the s6

Incipio OffGRID first look: Adding a microSD card and external battery to the Galaxy S6 http://www.androidcentral.com/incip...g-microsd-card-and-external-battery-galaxy-s6
 
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