Will the Note 5 have removable battery and storage?

[syspry]

That their feature omissions impact sales.

I thought we just discussed this in depth? How are you or anyone going to prove that's the reason without having an international referendum which obviously will never happen?

 

[rushmore]

If the sales figures match or exceed the Note 4, or their expectations for the Note 5 -

Samsung will not know or be bothered that virtually none of those sales come from previous Note devotees.

Likewise if the sales figures do not reach anywhere near their minimum targets, they will look at failures of aesthetic design, Notes losing their appeal with so many 5.5" plus screens available for less money, their pricing policy, failure rates, - countless things.

At this stage :
they - are - not - bringing - back - sd cards - or removable - batteries - next - year! {except on cheap end devices}

Boeing have not reintroduced propellers on transatlantic jets. (well they did long ago kind of with HBP/UHBP engines)

That is such a loose analogy to the point of creating a lexicon: unanalogy

 

[anon8380037]

That is such a loose analogy to the point of creating a lexicon: unanalogy

Thanks. It's a specialty of mine.

Think of it as like
... no ... never mind!

 

[ThrottleJohnny]

In about a year or so I'm going to look back at threads like this with odd fascination.

How peeps hung on for dear life against changes in the industry that were inevitable.

 

[rushmore]

In about a year or so I'm going to look back at threads like this with odd fascination.

How peeps hung on for dear life against changes in the industry that were inevitable.

Yes, paying more for less storage and accessing the cloud with tiny data caps or public unsecure wifi is change that is inevtible. Or, carry an OTG adapter around to perhaps lose that houses media that does not integrate very well with media apps.

That's change we can believe in!

I respect people that could care less about cards, but find it interesting in regards to the incredulity that is apparent by some of them. There would be a more level reflection if reasonably priced 256gb devices were offered

If that is part of the reflection I concur

 

[Paravoz]

I've read too many threads and lost track.

What day is Samsung supposed to show off the new Note 5?

Thanks!

8/13/2015
presentation livestream at 11:00AM (EDT)

 

[calicocat2010]

I've read too many threads and lost track.

What day is Samsung supposed to show off the new Note 5?

Thanks!

13th...so Thursday.

 

[rayfordsawdust]

If you take pics on your phone without a SD card. They will by default save to your (32 GB of memory or higher) phone. Once you have internet or WiFi service again, then at that time they will sync to your chosen online place you have selected to sync with your photos and other info etc... It doesn't matter if your phone dies or not. The photos or info will still be there and you will have full access to the info once you recharge you phone. It's just not backed up until you have internet access again. Some websites offer unlimited storage for pics and files. As smart phones continue to become more advanced SD cards are becoming more antiquated. No disrespect.

 

[heavyvino]

Hodor was the designer of this phone.

This is the day that the Lord has made, I will rejoice and eat meat in it.

 

[monsieurms]

In about a year or so I'm going to look back at threads like this with odd fascination.

How peeps hung on for dear life against changes in the industry that were inevitable.

No doubt someone said the same when the iPhone came out without SD cards and removable batteries, even though Palm Treo had them. And then perhaps someone said the same when Samsung came out with both and seemed about to turn iPhone into a relic. And no doubt a year from now when a manufacturer decides to pick up attention and sales lost by Samsung, someone will say the same.

Then there was backlighting. One minute everyone has backlighting. It's a great thing! The next, everyone turns against backlighting. It's harsh on the eyes and doesn't look like a book! Then, everyone's for it again. Things like this are often the result of heavyweight companies fighting for market share. Things run in cycles and manufacturers who go in a new direction often change the market, but not always permanently or in a way that enforces uniformity. Until some great innovation (like say, 256gb internal storage for an extra $5) actually turns something into the equivalent of a buggy whip, things go up, down and around, appear, disappear, thrive, revive and hang on.

It's a circle more than a straight line sometimes.

 

[Adawg1203]

Yes, paying more for less storage and accessing the cloud with tiny data caps or public unsecure wifi is change that is inevtible. Or, carry an OTG adapter around to perhaps lose that houses media that does not integrate very well with media apps.

That's change we can believe in!

I respect people that could care less about cards, but find it interesting in regards to the incredulity that is apparent by some of them. There would be a more level reflection if reasonably priced 256gb devices were offered

If that is part of the reflection I concur

You mention public unsecured wifi a lot. Am I missing a boom in the industry? Is there really a lot of folks out there who use it? I've never so now im curious nor do I see the logic behind using public wifi.

 

[monsieurms]

You mention public unsecured wifi a lot. Am I missing a boom in the industry? Is there really a lot of folks out there who use it? I've never so now im curious nor do I see the logic behind using public wifi.

Last year I was in Paris. There'd be people showing up just to hang outside of Starbucks and use some free wi-fi. Or, every coffee shop you pass now is obliged to offer free wi-fi. In various places, you show up as a tourist in zones that are free wi-fi zones and people are hanging out with laptops and what not. For tourists, students and low income residents and others who just need a connection, it is more and more common.

 

[tadpoles]

In about a year or so I'm going to look back at threads like this with odd fascination.

How peeps hung on for dear life against changes in the industry that were inevitable.

A year? I'm looking at them with odd fascination now.



Sent from the Elegance

 

[anon8380037]

Well, this is the first year it has really hit hard with those attuned to these features.

People have invested a lot of time, faith, developed regular practices (huh? well daily routines then); and invested money in storage, chargers and accessories over several devices in several years.

Now the manufacturers R&D tech wizards / Google have either looked to change technology purely to have another 'must have' feature (design led/glass, sealed devices with faster, larger ufs storage) that people need to buy and so increase profits and reduce manufacturing, or technology is moving this way logically in line with new discoveries/materials/innovations, or both.

<×× WARNING ××>

ridiculous analogy alert ....

<×× WARNING ××>

So - these market leading police (cough) have stepped into the middle of the one lane road many of us had been travelling on for miles and miles, held up a stop sign and said you can go no further, you must reverse all the way back to the fork where this road started, refill your tanks at your own expense, and take a different road now which will become smoother over the years but you will have to pay a new toll for a while.

And before even that you have to leave all your baggage here because

- oh I give up!

I had a promising writing career beckoning before this post.

 

[rushmore]

You mention public unsecured wifi a lot. Am I missing a boom in the industry? Is there really a lot of folks out there who use it? I've never so now im curious nor do I see the logic behind using public wifi.

If you do not want to burn your data cap accessing your own content when away from home, you would likely be out in public or businesses that use it. Most people do not understand VPN that can help protect, so will use straight wifi connections.

 

[rushmore]

Well, this is the first year it has really hit hard with those attuned to these features.

People have invested a lot of time, faith, developed regular practices (huh? well daily routines then); and invested money in storage, chargers and accessories over several devices in several years.

Now the manufacturers R&D tech wizards / Google have either looked to change technology purely to have another 'must have' feature (design led/glass, sealed devices with faster, larger ufs storage) that people need to buy and so increase profits and reduce manufacturing, or technology is moving this way logically in line with new discoveries/materials/innovations, or both.

<××WARNING××>

ridiculous analogy follows....

<××WARNING××>

So - these market leading police (cough) have stepped into the middle of the one lane road many of us had been travelling on for miles and miles, held up a stop sign and said you can go no further, you must reverse all the way back to the fork where this road started, refill your tanks at your own expense, and take a different road now which will become smoother over the years but you will have to pay a new toll for a while.

And before even that you have to leave all your baggage here because

- oh I give up!

I had a promising writing career beckoning before this post.

The Incredulity Police! You will NOT have your sd and LIKE it!

 

[pdub73]

Idk My Iphone friends seem pretty happy Never Ever! having an SD card or removable battery...I dont see the big deal to be honest...now that the phones are practically identical the real question is... are you Android or IOS and you Apple or Samsung...or LG cuz LG G4 is an awsome phone in its own right...but it's NOT and Note...and I use my S-Pen more than any of the other features we're all worried about losing...so I'm good...just my opinion.

 

[bigbuc]

I'm rural. I've retired to a place that my Internet choices are at&t wireless or satellite.
so about half of my updates are done on public wifi. I don't think I've ever got all of my photos uploaded to Google photos or Amazon prime... I do backup to my home wifi nas (no internet, just printers, nas, computers).

 

[radicchio]

I've been watching the discussion about the loss of the SD card storage and removable battery from a fairly neutral position. I've been watching the Samsung Note line for a while and wanting to get one. I admit I was disappointed when I started reading reports that the removable battery and SD card would not be included with the Note 5---but not as unhappy as those who have been using both features for some time and have come to rely on having them.

Depending on what we learn tomorrow, I'm willing to give the Note 5 a chance. However, I can understand the disappointment for those who have come to rely on the SD card and extra battery. I'll try my hand at a real-life analogy.

For many years I was happy with my cable TV's modest level service with analog technology. Then came the big changeover to digital. As the date for the changeover approached, I read a lot of information about what to expect. I really did not want to have to add a cable box---because I didn't want those extra monthly charges, but also due to the extra clutter around the TV and because I didn't want yet another remote to deal with. So when I read that if I got a cable ready TV with QAM no box would be needed for my level of service, I was delighted. Since my TV at that time was quite old, I didn't mind buying another TV with the QAM tuner. That worked fine for a few months until the cable company announced that they would now be scrambling all the channels, even those on the lower tier offerings (which I used happily). Did I understand why the cable company was doing this? Yes! Did I like it? Absolutely not!! Now we have to have a box for each TV and have to pay a monthly fee for those boxes to use on our various TVs. Not having to deal with or pay for the boxes used to be an advantage of cable TV over satellite TV, but no more. To me, that corresponds with how people who have been happily using the Note series phones for a while must feel about the Note 5.

I know some of you are thinking, "But you have so much better signal with digital, not to mention the advantage of HDTV!!! First, my signal is not better, IMHO---if there is the slightest problem, you lose the signal all together and we also have problems when the weather gets very hot. Second, I'm not a big TV watcher---although I do like to see sports---so I've never cared about HDTV.

At the same time, I don't rant about the cable company and what it should have done. As negatively as many people view the company (Comcast), they still use their services and Comcast continues to profit. I accept (even if I don't like it) that companies exist to make a profit and listen to customer input only to the extent that they HAVE to---otherwise decisions are made based on what will increase their bottom line.

So, while I sympathize and even agree somewhat with those who are upset to see the SD card and removable battery disappear, I don't expect Samsung to really care or be affected by the negative reactions.

 

[dsignori]

I... I accept (even if I don't like it) that companies exist to make a profit and listen to customer input only to the extent that they HAVE to---otherwise decisions are made based on what will increase their bottom line.

So, while I sympathize and even agree somewhat with those who are upset to see the SD card and removable battery disappear, I don't expect Samsung to really care or be affected by the negative reactions.

I think all companies make those decisions. With regard to the SD card and storage though - Many normal customers can only get 32gb versions (many carriers only carry that) and those 32GB version have 23 GB of real space total for all their apps and photos and videos. If (when) they start to run out of space on their phone, Samsung will be very affected by negative reactions IMO...