Will the US Unlocked HTC 10 model work on Verizon?

[dpham00]

Re: LTE Bands the Verizon model has in common with the Unlocked model

I was also just on band 4 before going back to band 13. Since i'm not completely familiar in this area, I assume the phone chooses one?

Yes the phone chooses.

 

[foxbat121]

Re: LTE Bands the Verizon model has in common with the Unlocked model

LTE is GSM technology. As long as you have a valid SIM card, it should work. Voice and text is whole another story.

 

[awareunlikeu]

It is my understanding that Verizon cannot legally block usage of the phone on its network unless the phone is causing damage to its network. However htc can block Verizon sim card from working.

It has been done! The geniuses at XDA have figured a way to make the Unlocked HTC 10 fully functional on Verizon! Come to find out, HTC's software is the one to blame here. Props to dottat and crew! Let the fun begin! VZW How to use unlocked model on VZW | HTC 10

 

[dpham00]

It has been done! The geniuses at XDA have figured a way to make the Unlocked HTC 10 fully functional on Verizon! Come to find out, HTC's software is the one to blame here. Props to dottat and crew! Let the fun begin! VZW How to use unlocked model on VZW | HTC 10

Just like I thought. Htc software is to blame, not Verizon

 

[udazavlanje]

It has been done! The geniuses at XDA have figured a way to make the Unlocked HTC 10 fully functional on Verizon! Come to find out, HTC's software is the one to blame here. Props to dottat and crew! Let the fun begin! VZW How to use unlocked model on VZW | HTC 10

What do you mean "HTC is to blame" ?? They did not do it out of boredom but probably by Verizon's request.

Moto XPE/VZW Moto X DE/N7

 

[Ry]

Just like I thought. Htc software is to blame, not Verizon

I would suspect that Verizon made this request as part of the deal to have a Verizon model. Maybe HTC feels like they need some carrier exposure.

 

[Ry]

What do you mean "HTC is to blame" ?? They did not do it out of boredom but probably by Verizon's request.

Moto XPE/VZW Moto X DE/N7

HTC didn't have to do a deal with Verizon though.

 

[Ry]

It has been done! The geniuses at XDA have figured a way to make the Unlocked HTC 10 fully functional on Verizon! Come to find out, HTC's software is the one to blame here. Props to dottat and crew! Let the fun begin! VZW How to use unlocked model on VZW | HTC 10

Curious if OS updates could cause failures post-update.

 

[foxbat121]

Curious if OS updates could cause failures post-update.

it could if the radio ROM is not compatible with the new OS ROM. It's not really fixed. They just transplanted Verizon radio to unlocked version.Wonder if it also means the lost of those extra bands supported by the unlocked version.

 

[dpham00]

I would suspect that Verizon made this request as part of the deal to have a Verizon model. Maybe HTC feels like they need some carrier exposure.

Verizon can't interfere though... At least not without violating the rules of the 700MHz upper block c license.

"(b) Use of devices and applications. Licensees offering service on spectrum subject to this section shall not deny, limit, or restrict the ability of their customers to use the devices and applications of their choice on the licensee's C Block network, except:
(1) Insofar as such use would not be compliant with published technical standards reasonably necessary for the management or protection of the licensee's network, or
(2) As required to comply with statute or applicable government regulation."

 

[Ry]

Verizon can't interfere though... At least not without violating the rules of the 700MHz upper block c license.

"(b) Use of devices and applications. Licensees offering service on spectrum subject to this section shall not deny, limit, or restrict the ability of their customers to use the devices and applications of their choice on the licensee's C Block network, except:
(1) Insofar as such use would not be compliant with published technical standards reasonably necessary for the management or protection of the licensee's network, or
(2) As required to comply with statute or applicable government regulation."

Which is why there probably isn't a paper trail for this request. :/

 

[bhatech]

Just like I thought. Htc software is to blame, not Verizon

Lol no probably Verizon made them to do that if they want to sell the Verizon version. No incentive for HTC do that, we all know how evil Verizon is and the amount of control they want on OEMs is unbelievable. Only Apple knows how to treat Verizon.

 

[udazavlanje]

Lol no probably Verizon made them to do that if they want to sell the Verizon version. No incentive for HTC do that, we all know how evil Verizon is and the amount of control they want on OEMs is unbelievable. Only Apple knows how to treat Verizon.

Or better to say - Only Apple can afford it.
On Android side only Samsung can, but somehow doesn't care.

Moto XPE/VZW Moto X DE/N7

 

[udazavlanje]

HTC didn't have to do a deal with Verizon though.

True, but we all know in what kind of the financial position HTC is , so they had to bend to VZW will.

Moto XPE/VZW Moto X DE/N7

 

[bhatech]

Or better to say - Only Apple can afford it.
On Android side only Samsung can, but somehow doesn't care.

Moto XPE/VZW Moto X DE/N7

Yep Verizon can't take on Apple, they are just dumb pipe to Apple and it's great.

 

[udazavlanje]

Yep Verizon can't take on Apple, they are just dumb pipe to Apple and it's great.

At this point FCC has to step in.
First , to clarify what is the role of the telecom utility company (dumb pipe indeed) and second to stop the anti-competetive business models. What VZW and alike are doing is that their preference and deals w certain OEMs really leave no chance for the rest to survive. As soon as you walk in , they bombard you w Droid and Samsung ... Not to mention net neutrality, etc.

Moto XPE/VZW Moto X DE/N7

 

[Ry]

Or better to say - Only Apple can afford it.
On Android side only Samsung can, but somehow doesn't care.

Moto XPE/VZW Moto X DE/N7

For the most part, most people buy their phones from their carrier.

 

[Ry]

At this point FCC has to step in.
First , to clarify what is the role of the telecom utility company (dumb pipe indeed) and second to stop the anti-competetive business models. What VZW and alike are doing is that their preference and deals w certain OEMs really leave no chance for the rest to survive. As soon as you walk in , they bombard you w Droid and Samsung ... Not to mention net neutrality, etc.

Moto XPE/VZW Moto X DE/N7

As long as the FCC allows utility companies to own media companies, they won't help.

 

[bhatech]

For the most part, most people buy their phones from their carrier.

Millions of people buy iPhone from Apple store as well for a superior experience. People buy from carriers because that's the only easy way to buy Android phones. And Android OEMs can't set up shops like Apple because it's not economical to do so. Due to this the carriers take advantage and bully the OEMs. Samsung can probably strong arm the carriers if they want but they don't care about end user, their customer is the carrier and gladly bend over.

 

[Ry]

Millions of people buy iPhone from Apple store as well for a superior experience. People buy from carriers because that's the only easy way to buy Android phones. And Android OEMs can't set up shops like Apple because it's not economical to do so. Due to this the carriers take advantage and bully the OEMs. Samsung can probably strong arm the carriers if they want but they don't care about end user, their customer is the carrier and gladly bend over.

I think this was covered in another thread.

https://www.strategyanalytics.com/s...smartphone-volumes-in-us-in-2015#.VzOp8lUrJhG

Unlocked smartphones made up 9% of total smartphone volume shipment in the US in 2015. Roughly 1 of 10.

BLU 5.2 million, Apple 1.8 million, Motorola 1.4 million, others: 6.2 million.

From this, I'm led to believe that people may be going to Apple stores to buy iPhones, but they're likely still buying them on a carrier plan - not necessarily unlocked/outright.

What incentive is there for Samsung to strong arm the carriers when they're basically 1B to Apple's 1A in carrier stores?